Islamic State destroys tombs, mosques in Mosul

[Mohiuddin Kazmi]

Caliph Ibrahim says that he is not only a Muslim, but THE leader of Muslims. No one can disprove that he is a Muslim. There is no authority on earth that can prove he is not the Muslim he claims that he is. Individual Muslims can reject that he is their leader, of course. I am a Christian. I take him at his word that he is a Muslim since he quotes all these sunna and hadiths that I can't dispute. As far as I'm concerned, none of what he says is true. But I believe he is a Muslim.

even Qadiyani (Ahmedis) claim they're muslims.... so should we accept them as muslims too? a muslim becomes muslims when he claims that "there is no God but ALLAH and Muhammad (SALLAL LAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) is his last messenger" and Qadiyanis claims Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyan as the final messenger (MAZALLAH), how can we accept them as muslims when there is a clear line between everything what they are following & what not.... similarly these so called muslims of iraq & syria are destroying Tombs that are sacred to all muslims even some non muslims as well? how can they be muslims if they're destroying sacred tombs of our beloved Prophets...... you need to realize the truth by coming out of what mainstream media feeds you and get to know the unbiased & independent truth

 

[Sriram]

Kindly prove your statement please that everything this fake kaliphate does is justified by the Eternal Speech of God, the Holy Quran, and the Gospels of His last Messenger, called the hadith.

I am here to evaluate your proof.

These criminals are not Muslims. Are you teaching Muslims their own religion?

Muslims lived with Christians in Mosul for 1350 years.

you fought three crusades, sanctioned by pope and mullahs don play nice.. or are u gonna say crusades was figment of pagan imagination

You guys fighting each other is the natural thing..

If you claim u lived in peace in mosul, i'd say it was about time...

 

[Mohiuddin Kazmi]

It is not evidence that the IS is not Islamic. Everything that IS does is justified and proven correct by the
Quran and/or a hadith. Just ask them. They will tell you that they are the most authentic Muslims on the planet.

and there is a Word called "KHAWARIJ" as well in hadiths which has been mentioned 1400 years ago.... just google it and search it in hadiths and you will get its definition that they will look like muslims, act like muslims but their hearts would be like wolves.... whoever gets killed by them will be blessed and whoever kills them will be blessed too..... just look it up..... we are witnessing this hadith in our lives my friend

 

[Gunsnroses]

No sane muslim worships tombs/graves but the real muslims always visit there for spiritual blessings. May these khawarij savages rot in hell and the ones who introduced the worshipping concept originally.

 

[kobiraaz]

No sane muslim worships tombs/graves but the real muslims always visit there for spiritual blessings. May these khawarij savages rot in hell and the ones who introduced the worshipping concept originally.

Real muslims always visit tombs? Did Umar, Uthman, Ali R visited the tomb of Seth and Jonah pbut?

 

[Gunsnroses]

Real muslims always visit tombs? Did Umar, Uthman, Ali R visited the tomb of Seth and Jonah pbut?

Did I say that?
And if sahaba did not, means destroy the tombs of prophets and religious figures??
This is what is called khawarij or wahabi mindset who are ahlul bida.
I don't want to start a debate which has nothing to do with this thread. I have already shared my thoughts. Khalas!

 

[he-man]

Kindly prove your statement please that everything this fake kaliphate does is justified by the Eternal Speech of God, the Holy Quran, and the Gospels of His last Messenger, called the hadith.

I am here to evaluate your proof.

These criminals are not Muslims. Are you teaching Muslims their own religion?

Muslims lived with Christians in Mosul for 1350 years.

Dude quaran is very complex.
There are every types of verses in it depending on the period in which they were written.

I saw a documentary in which it was mentioned that the verses written later on in the life of prophet muhammad will supercede the ones written early on,,,,please clarify on this??

And unfortunately in the later half of prophet muhammad's life,there were many wars compared to relatively peaceful life early on.
So these mullahs use this pretext to divide people

 

[Multani]

Caliph Ibrahim says that he is not only a Muslim, but THE leader of Muslims. No one can disprove that he is a Muslim. There is no authority on earth that can prove he is not the Muslim he claims that he is. Individual Muslims can reject that he is their leader, of course. I am a Christian. I take him at his word that he is a Muslim since he quotes all these sunna and hadiths that I can't dispute. As far as I'm concerned, none of what he says is true. But I believe he is a Muslim.

Kindly prove your statement please and do not run away from it. You said, what these fakers are doing is according to the Glorious Eternal Speech of God, the Holy Qur'an. Please prove that statement.

The second part of your statement is that what these fakers are doing is according to the Holy Gospels, the Hadith. Please prove this part of your statement too. I am waiting.

Dude quaran is very complex.
There are every types of verses in it depending on the period in which they were written.

I saw a documentary in which it was mentioned that the verses written later on in the life of prophet muhammad will supercede the ones written early on,,,,please clarify on this??

And unfortunately in the later half of prophet muhammad's life,there were many wars compared to relatively peaceful life early on.
So these mullahs use this pretext to divide people

which verses he-man? please can you show them to me.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

ISIS is a CIA/Mossad Creation. No fucking Muslim follows this CIA-led group, except ex-guantanamo bay detainees.. Hmmm I wonder why....

CIA turned Guantánamo Bay inmates into double agents, ex-officials claim | World news | theguardian.com

Quick question, why do ISIS call themselves Islamic, and why do they always shout "Allah akbar"?

Are they trying to frame Muslims?

 

[Multani]

Real muslims always visit tombs? Did Umar, Uthman, Ali R visited the tomb of Seth and Jonah pbut?

Yes they do. The noble Sahaba you mentioned, they built the Maqam of the Prophet salat wa salam alaih, and Hazrat Umar AS visited the Maqams of the Holy Patriarchs in Hebron.

Imam Ali AS was in Iraq, and he controlled Mosul [ that had the Maqam of Jonah peace be upon him ]

 

[he-man]

Kindly prove your statement please and do not run away from it. You said, what these fakers are doing is according to the Glorious Eternal Speech of God, the Holy Qur'an. Please prove that statement.

The second part of your statement is that what these fakers are doing is according to the Holy Gospels, the Hadith. Please prove this part of your statement too. I am waiting.



which verses he-man? please can you show them to me.

No man,,i will not .
I may get banned.

I am just talking in general and i think the point made in the documentary is the actual reason for confusion among people.
I mean whenever a peaceful verse and a relatively hateful verse(written during wartime i agree) clash then the one which is hateful,as wars happened in later part of life of prophet would supercede the peaceful one,,simply because it was written later on.

Now i find this intringuing!!
Is that even correct??

Quick question, why do ISIS call themselves Islamic, and why do they always shout "Allah akbar"?

Are they trying to frame Muslims?

Na,,like all religious nutjobs they are the purest............................at least according to themselves

 

[Multani]

Quick question, why do ISIS call themselves Islamic, and why do they always shout "Allah akbar"?

Are they trying to frame Muslims?

They belong to a tiny cult within the wider Muslim community. The cult's name is "Qutbi Salafi"

Almost all major Islamic Scholars from any group, have rejected this cult as "khawarij", which is Arabic for "those who have left the community of Muslims and are now outsiders"

Well, the general populace of Muslims, in Iraq itself, believe these devils are aliens planted among us. Most of them are non-Iraqi, from western europe and north america.

 

[Multani]

No man,,i will not .
I may get banned.

I am just talking in general and i think the point made in the documentary is the actual reason for confusion among people.
I mean whenever a peaceful verse and a relatively hateful verse(written during wartime i agree) clash then the one which is hateful,as wars happened in later part of life of prophet would supercede the peaceful one,,simply because it was written later on.

Now i find this intringuing!!
Is that even correct??



Na,,like all religious nutjobs they are the purest............................at least according to themselves

Sorry he-man, but what you are saying is wrong. Your premise is false according to Islam.

To you some Qur'anic verses are hateful. But according to Muslims, Qur'an is the Speech of God, Eternal and Uncreated. And God's Speech is never hateful. God is not attributed with hate because hate is a human attribute, not of God.

 

[he-man]

Sorry he-man, but what you are saying is wrong. Your premise is false according to Islam.

To you some Qur'anic verses are hateful. But according to Muslims, Qur'an is the Speech of God, Eternal and Uncreated. And God's Speech is never hateful. God does not hate because hate is a human attribute, not of God.

Now u are being unreasonable and conservative here,,,no point in discussion i think if u don't even agree that hateful speeches do exist.

 

[Multani]

you fought three crusades, sanctioned by pope and mullahs don play nice.. or are u gonna say crusades was figment of pagan imagination

You guys fighting each other is the natural thing..

If you claim u lived in peace in mosul, i'd say it was about time...

About time for what? Typical indian ignorance. Its like the Bajrang Dal racist communal Shukla making silly claims while in debate with Asaduddin Owaisi of Hyderabad. So, you come here to teach our history? Well let's see, and show everyone in this thread that you really dont know what you are talking about.

Muslims did not fight three crusades. They fought many more than that. And they fought the Mongol pagans too, just like some pagan kings in india. That does not have to do anything with the Christians in Mosul,nor the entire Levant.