Islamabad's little Somalia - "Somalistan"

[Zibago]

Look folks those who are born and bred here should be issued cnic,s.They are more dangerous without them cuz without cnic,s the authorities have no data about them.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Most somalians are peaceful people however their community is statistically most likely to be involved in illegal activities so the police need to keep their eyes open

You need a job to pay for the daily expenses. These refugees cannot work legally so they may be attracted to illegal activities to earn a living. These Somalians can be allowed to open Somali restaurants and create their own employment and people will have another cuisine.

 

[Shamain]

@Shamain @WAJsal @waz

My old thread
Footprints: Strangers in a strange land

@Shamain @WAJsal @waz

My old thread
Footprints: Strangers in a strange land

I remember.

Actually bengalis are the second biggest group

Actually bengalis are the second biggest group

True. Around 5 million

Rohingyas and bengalis are hell lot diff in a certain sense. Rohingyas are bengalis but came from mynamar. Dont be dishonest here arsalankhan21

Look folks those who are born and bred here should be issued cnic,s.They are more dangerous without them cuz without cnic,s the authorities have no data about them.

No they shudnt be.. This isnt how it works for a developing nation.
Highly disagree

@Ghareeb_Da_Baal

 

[Menace2Society]

I agree there are flaws in us, but i wont tolerate if someone goes around abusing my country blaming us for all the bad things happening....

This is what is happening.

The Afghans in Pakistan activities are directly proportional to the relationship between Afg-Pak.

So if the relationship sours then some of these Afghans become walking talking bombs and blow themselves up in say Khanzada's office.

Now does this paradigm seem right to you?

How can you have a population so closely linked to such a volatile relationship. Its like having the most hinduvita Indians living in Pakistan.

This is like having a noose around your neck and as you pull away it gets tighter. You need to send them back so you can distance yourselves away from these 5th worlders.

The world needs to see a growing civilized Pakistan. Not a Pakistan linked with Afghanistan. We would suffer the same idigniation as them in front of world perspective. Food for thought.

 

[Zibago]

I remember.





True. Around 5 million

Rohingyas and bengalis are hell lot diff in a certain sense. Rohingyas are bengalis but came from mynamar. Dont be dishonest here arsalankhan21 mr afghan


No they shudnt be.. This isnt how it works for a developing nation.
Highly disagree

@Ghareeb_Da_Baal

I think identityless ghost aliens are more dangerous than foreign folks with cnic,s

@Shamain how else should we deal with aliens who refuse to move out and who have lived here for 20+ years

 

[Shamain]

I think identityless ghost aliens are more dangerous than foreign folks with cnic,s

@Shamain how else should we deal with aliens who refuse to move out and who have lived here for 20+ years

See cnic is like giving them pakistani identity. They must be registered and issued refugee id cards or some such identity.
They shud be identifid in databases.
The ghost part is our useless govs inefficiency.
And then honestly under that there shud be programs to evaluate how productive these refugees cud be. Teach themskills so as long they stay they benefit the country and themselves thru fairly earned income etc and then efforts shud be there to resettle them back.

If we had properly worked on sending out afghans much earlier then we wouldnt have been in the current state.

 

[Zibago]

I have a better proposal,give them partial nationality in which they cant buy property and which can be snatched if they are found to be involved in illegal activitiesThe qualification should proof of migration before 1995 and clean background during their stay in pak

@Shamain

I have a better proposal,give them partial nationality in which they cant buy property and which can be snatched if they are found to be involved in illegal activitiesThe qualification should proof of migration before 1995 and clean background during their stay in pak

@Shamain

 

[Shamain]

I have a better proposal,give them partial nationality in which they cant buy property and which can be snatched if they are found to be involved in illegal activitiesThe qualification should proof of migration before 1995 and clean background during their stay in pak

@Shamain

I have a better proposal,give them partial nationality in which they cant buy property and which can be snatched if they are found to be involved in illegal activitiesThe qualification should proof of migration before 1995 and clean background during their stay in pak

@Shamain

I disagree.
Property freeholding is the biggest blunder. Omg. Fakhray this is a disastrous suggestion . It shudnt be done. After thoroughly evaluating those who stayed for long time, exhibited good conduct some provisons and privileges might be offered to them but not wht u are proposing.

 

[Zibago]

Afghans are not the only aliens in Pakistan

Afghans are not the only aliens in Pakistan

I disagree.
Property freeholding is the biggest blunder. Omg. Fakhray this is a disastrous suggestion . It shudnt be done. After thoroughly evaluating those who stayed for long time, exhibited good conduct some provisons and privileges might be offered to them but not wht u are proposing.

Ok,instead pf calling it partial nationality call it proof of identity or something but 4 million stateless people are a threat to our security

 

[RazorMC]

Having interacted with many Somalis (outside Pakistan obviously), I can say they are mostly Arab-oriented owing to their culture, but more loyal than the Afghans we are sheltering.

There are a handful of them anyways, why not do something for them like permit them to work etc?

 

[Zibago]

They will not go back to Bangladesh or Afghanistan so what other humane option are we left with?

@Shamain we are talking about 5-7 million people here

 

[Shamain]

Afghans are not the only aliens in Pakistan

Afghans are not the only aliens in Pakistan


Ok,instead pf calling it partial nationality call it proof of identity or something but 4 million stateless people are a threat to our security

Bro isaid issue them refugee id cards , just like there is cnic for pakistanis. And both refugees and pakisanis information databases must be linked at a common hub point from where, when there is a need data cud be extracted.
Dude iwill be first to support such action etc that takes their biometrics and records information.

 

[Zibago]

@Shamain we are talking about 5-7 million people here

@Shamain we are talking about 5-7 million people here

 

[Shamain]

They will not go back to Bangladesh or Afghanistan so what other humane option are we left with?

@Shamain we are talking about 5-7 million people here

Afghans will be and have to be sent back,
And u know ourgov is considerig that.

And there are two types of afghan refugees ,one registered ,which are still allowed o do businesses etc and stay and second unregistered which gov is seeking to send back fast

As of bengalis, rohingyas, and rest as isaid either send them back or if not possible now then teach them skills, provide amenities so they can be productive to both,i.e. pakistan and themselves and after that see what shud be done. Resettling them back or keeping them after ascertaining their past conduct.

@fakhre mirpur canada, australia new zealand take immigrants and after few years give them nationality cuz these countiries need human capital, educated manpower,which at times is provided to them by our own educated pakistanis who dont find good opportunities in pakistan.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Most somalians are peaceful people however their community is statistically most likely to be involved in illegal activities so the police need to keep their eyes open

A person who knows what awaits for him in their native country that is fu<ked up isn't going to go around engaging in criminal activities.

Sure the Afghan refugees are an exception, but look at their population in Pakistan, there are millions of them. While the Somali population is a mere few hundred. Give these people, who are no different than Pakistanis themselves, the benefit of the doubt.

There are thousands of Somalis living in Turkey on scholarships from the government, they appreciate the kindness and opportunity given to them and attempt to integrate into the society. Learning the local language, customs, and culture.