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ISIS released dahaka attack terrorists images sighting no links to Pakistan

How the **** do these kids become terrorists ? they just look like every other guy out there. What kind of propaganda machinery turns normal kids into these monsters

One answer seems to be, Indian movie and influence. One of the terrorist, Nibrash Islam was seen dancing with indian actress and expressed his feeling with indian actress as "perfect". This same terrorist was in india and disappeared from there until his terror debut in Bangladesh.
 
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One answer seems to be, Indian movie and influence. One of the terrorist, Nibrash Islam was seen dancing with indian actress and expressed his feeling with indian actress as "perfect". This same terrorist was in india and disappeared from there until his terror debut in Bangladesh.

Yes, you are right. Indian movies and the influence of Indian movies on brainless people makes them dress up, walk into restaurants with foreigners in them, kill them one by one while releasing Bangladeshis, but not before instructing them on religious practices. It is fortunate that we have sharp intellects like you piercing the veil of illusion and getting to the heart of the matter. You imbecile.
 
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Like yours.

Yes, we have an illegitimate regime which has destroyed every single democratic institution in BD. So, now there's no difference between the regime in BD and the regime in Syria. Like the blood thirsty asad regime is playing the ISIS card to cling to power the BD regime is trying to play the same card. The result is suppression of the opposition political parties and the unchecked rise of ISIS terrorists. The regime wants to show to the world that if they are not allowed to cling to power terrorists will take over. Cleverly people are given only two options by this type of mafia regimes, it's like saying "Either accept us or else you'll have ISIS. If you want Islamic rule look at what ISIS does, so you're safe with suckularism." People like us reject both with utmost disgust because neither represent Islam or anything decent. These regimes have their thugs in uniforms who use their guns to force people into submission, they call it 'fighting terror". What it really is has recently been discussed thoroughly in the British Parliament.
 
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Yes, we have an illegitimate regime which has destroyed every single democratic institution in BD. So, now there's no difference between the regime in BD and the regime in Syria. Like the blood thirsty asad regime is playing the ISIS card to cling to power the BD regime is trying to play the same card. The result is suppression of the opposition political parties and the unchecked rise of ISIS terrorists. The regime wants to show to the world that if they are not allowed to cling to power terrorists will take over. Cleverly people are given only two options by this type of mafia regimes, it's like saying "Either accept us or else you'll have ISIS. If you want Islamic rule look at what ISIS does, so you're safe with suckularism." People like us reject both with utmost disgust because neither represent Islam or anything decent. These regimes have their thugs in uniforms who use their guns to force people into submission, they call it 'fighting terror". What it really is has recently been discussed thoroughly in the British Parliament.
See you are in different situation than us Iraqis or Syrians you are one sector nation while we are two different sector we can't act harshly since we know our sunnis has no brain and they think the sunni states like saudis turks qataris ok and many more are ready to stand with them in every direction also they know that Amarica will support them and israel too so we have to take easely with great deal anger control other wise we can end up in a real sectorian war with real massacres that is what keep us from retaliating see the crime that happened last night with over 130 innocent shiite massacred if such thing happen in Israel then you know what will happen to the palestinians now for you you don't need to be fooled by the takfirees trust me they will make your life the worst nightmare you've ever seen you people need to get rid of these animals as soon as possible even if that means cut all your ties with arab states your family your kids your honor way more important than any thing else if you understand.
 
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One answer seems to be, Indian movie and influence. One of the terrorist, Nibrash Islam was seen dancing with indian actress and expressed his feeling with indian actress as "perfect". This same terrorist was in india and disappeared from there until his terror debut in Bangladesh.
This is a very interesting piece of info, can you back it up with some sources?

@Irfan Baloch Kindly note
 
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See you are in different situation than us Iraqis or Syrians you are one sector nation while we are two different sector we can't act harshly since we know our sunnis has no brain and they think the sunni states like saudis turks qataris ok and many more are ready to stand with them in every direction also they know that Amarica will support them and israel too so we have to take easely with great deal anger control other wise we can end up in a real sectorian war with real massacres that is what keep us from retaliating see the crime that happened last night with over 130 innocent shiite massacred if such thing happen in Israel then you know what will happen to the palestinians now for you you don't need to be fooled by the takfirees trust me they will make your life the worst nightmare you've ever seen you people need to get rid of these animals as soon as possible even if that means cut all your ties with arab states your family your kids your honor way more important than any thing else if you understand.

You blame everybody except the bloody asad regime and I can see where the actually blame lies.
 
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How the **** do these kids become terrorists ? they just look like every other guy out there. What kind of propaganda machinery turns normal kids into these monsters

I don't know why the situation is like that in Bangladesh, I thought it was a relatively stable and wealthy nation. But, I've said before, do not expect the situation to get better in the Middle East. ISIS will lose ground in Syria and Iraq, but there is almost a 'popular' rebellion if you will, that is reason individuals are acting on their own. There is no need for operational coordination, it can a few people or more with contacts in a different nation that act in name of this rebellion. I've said before the governance in the Arab world, as well Western policy in the Arab world, has contributed to this. Along with Iranian-Saudi cultural clash. And there's no going back unfortunately. I don't know how it will play out, but it will get worse in the coming years. Too many reasons, some of it political, some of it social too. As in, they don't like direction their society is taking(secular lifestyle), and objecting to it. Too much to go over.

Where it will get worse in coming years, is in the Gulf Arab world plus Saudi Arabia. Possibly the Asian region. It won't wane and only become more common, and nobody has solution. It's not in your or my control, let the people figure out what they did wrong and how to fix it, and not repeat it again. They were given plenty of warnings and did not take heed to them. Because dictatorial governments are confident in their methods. And those methods work in short term, but have bad consequences in long term.
 
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You blame everybody except the bloody asad regime and I can see where the actually blame lies.
Trust me if I sau this Assad isn't one of my family but Assad less pain to the Syrian than the scums fighting him trust me if I tell you I want to see the poor people of Bangladesh live in peace you regime way better than all the arab dictators except those in Iraq.
 
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actually reading through the link you provided I discovered what a Gem of a character that guy Tofeeq Imam is.


he constructs his argument like this.

  • the method of terrorism and killing seems international
  • Jamat Islami is terrorist
  • Jamat Islami is also in Pakistan
  • Pakistan army is also Pakistani
  • Pakistan army is linked with Jamat Islami
  • Pakistan army is international
  • Jamat Islami is international
  • Jamat Islami Pakistan has condemned execution of Bangladeshi Jamat leaders
  • therefore Pakistan army is involved in this terrorism
@Horus @Paksanity @Arsalan

What else could have happened. We all know the Indian influence on the current Bangladeshi regime and they will go to all lengths to prove Pakistan’s guilt. Unhain to hmaray kabootron pe b shak ha,, this was a terrorists attack. I was just going through that other thread about a Bangladeshi official condemning Indian media for twisting facts and trying to put words in his mouth. Quite embarrassing but would it stop them? It won’t be long before they find someone who can support there ridiculous accusations. One that happens it is missions accomplished it. The objective in such projects is never to charge Pakistan in court of law, it Is just international bashing. So you never need evidence just enough voice to shout and cry and surely have to be shameless. I do not see any thing lacking.

Frankly, what were we expecting? We cannot blame anyone for hitting us and insulting us when our concerned authorities are least bit interested in protecting that image of the country. What do you think our Foreign Office or any concerned ministry or office will do in response of such accusations? Nothing!!
 
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Western governments and media may be blaming the Islamic State and al Qaeda but Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and her colleagues are convinced that July 1 attack on an upscale Dhaka cafe that left 20 people, most of them foreigners, dead was carried out by home-grown jihadis.

While a debate rages over the identity of the attackers, Hasina has blamed “some outside forces” for the south Asian country’s worst terrorist attack. Earlier, too, she has held local Islamists linked to the opposition BNP-Jamaat coalition responsible for attacks on bloggers, Hindu priests and foreigners.

“This is part of a major attempt to discredit my government and topple it. They failed to defeat me in elections, they are now using jihadis to bring me down but Inshallah they never will succeed,” Hasina said in Dhaka last week.

Her Awami League colleagues say the attacks on “secular elements” are aimed at demoralising the larger secular mass of Bangladeshis who revel in the “spirit of 1971”, while the violence against Hindus is meant to harm ties with friendly neighbour India. Foreigners, they say, are being targeted to cripple the economy, which is doing well, by scaring away investors and buyers, especially those outsourcing garments.

‘Home-made terror’

“Can’t you see the systematic planned targeting? It is so political,” top Awami League leader and former minister Suranjit Sengupta said. “When you fail to defeat us in elections, you unleash the jihadis.”

Sengupta recalled the “open encouragement” the jihadi groups got during the BNP-Jamaat reign (2001-2006). “The Bangla Bhais were operating as part of that government. The Jamaat is the fountain head of all religious radicalism in Bangladesh, they don’t believe in our independence, our secularism,” he said.

Former prime minister Khaleda Zia is the chairperson of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party.

‘ISI hand’

Information minister Hasanul Huq Inu stunned everyone on Monday, when he said Pakistan’s all-powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had trained up to 8,000 Bangladeshi jihadis in the last two years and sent them back to launch a violent campaign.

“They are trying to avenge 1971, they can’t get over it. First they hit India at Mumbai, now they hit us here in Dhaka with these homegrown jihadis who they have trained, “Inu told mediapersons.

Intelligence officials say they have furnished several detailed reports on the “Pakistan-trained jihadis”.

“That is why we identified two Pakistani diplomats who were part of this whole game… and expelled them. They were both ISI staffers,” a national security intelligence (NSI) official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he didn’t have the permission to speak to media. The NSI is Bangladesh’s top spy agency.

Training camps

The official said six batches of Bangladeshis were given weapons training between February and September 2014 at Naikhongcherri in Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT) that borders Myanmar. The remote hill camp used to be a secret base of Rohingya insurgents active in the neighbouring country.

“After the initial 15-day induction at the camp, a batch would be sent to Pakistan, while another batch would be sent to CHT. This went on until mid-2015. By then thousands of Bangladeshi jihadis had been through training, first in CHT and then in Pakistani Kashmir,” the NSI official said.

Indian agencies had found the reports to be true, he claimed.

Some of the Pakistan-trained Islamists had been hunted down, a counter-terrorism unit officer said. “But the most motivated of them were taken to Syrian and Iraqi battlefields by ISI frontmen and then infiltrated back to Bangladesh,” he said. “They formed a new group whose identity is not yet confirmed but which is surely responsible for the Dhaka attacks.”

Was the Pakistan angle for real and not the outcome of the ongoing Dhaka-Islamabad spat over the war crimes trials? The officer said the lone terrorist taken alive after the Dhaka siege had “began to cough out all he knows”.


The gunman, the officer said, had told them he was trained at the CHT camp before being packed off to Pakistan for a three-month intensive training in weapons, explosives and assault tactics.

He started off as an activist of the Islami Chatra Shibir, the student wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami, before joining the ranks of the new jihadi group the Ansar-e-Islam that sent him to Chittagong camp.

The gunman, the only one among the seven attacker to survive the army onslaught, was injured but was being questioned, the officer said.

“His initial version corroborates our previous reports about Pakistani involvement in building up a huge jihadi network in Bangladesh. The ISIS claims are nonsense, it is the ISI and not the ISIS. This is our Mumbai,” the counter-terror officer said.

The Pakistan angle

Earlier this year, Bangladesh had expelled two Pakistani diplomats for recruiting and funding jihadis. Foreign minister AH Mahmud Ali had even warned Pakistan against interfering in his country’s internal affairs.

Dhaka resents Islamabad’s criticism of the war-crimes trials in which several top Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP leaders have been hanged for collaborating with the Pakistan army during the Bangladesh liberation war of 1971.

Pakistan has condemned the hangings of “loyal Pakistanis” and even threatened to raise the issue in the UN.

But, western governments and media do not buy the government line and believe the Dhaka strike was either carried out by IS or al Qaeda.

The US sees al Qaeda in Indian Subcontinent footprint but most others have bought the Islamic State claims that “our boys” were involved in the slaughter at Holey Artisan cafe.

Local media carried pictures and details about the jihadis within minutes of their photographs going up on the Islamic State website.

The attackers were well educated, went to expensive private universities and one of them was the son of an Awami League leader, media reports said.

“They were highly indoctrinated and motivated, so they stayed back to fight to a bitter end, but their combat training is poor so their resistance folded up in 15 minutes, “ said Col Tuhin Masood of the Rapid Action Battalion that joined the para-commandos in the final assault.

Indian intelligence backs the Bangladeshi claims.

“The Lashkar-e-Taiba has been running a major operation in Bangladesh, recruiting and taking jihadis out for training, using their Rohingya fronts,” said an official of the Research & Analysis Wing, India’s external spy agency.

Refusing to be identified, the R&AW spy said Bangladesh security forces had neutralised many of the jihadis. “They killed them in encounters and they arrested a number of them. That is how they came to know of ISI’s involvement and so these under-cover ISI staffers were expelled,” he said.

But, the Bangladeshi forces failed to penetrate the new jihadi groups and get a picture of their command and hierarchy, he said.

The ISI used its Lashkar front, Fala-I-Insaniyat Foundation, to enter the Chittagong-Myanmar border area. The foundation members spread out as refugee aid work among Rohingyas to identify jihadi recruits to train and indoctrinate them, he said.

(The writer is a former BBC journalist and a noted author.)

Thoughts and judgment is of the author

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On the other hand :

Pakistan on Monday rejected media reports about its involvement in the terrorist attack in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka that killed 20 foreigners including an Indian as “baseless, irresponsible and provocative.”

Pakistan’s Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria issued a statement in response to media queries regarding reports of the involvement of Pakistan’s spy agency ISI in last week’s terror attack on a popular restaurant in Dhaka.

“These are highly regrettable, irresponsible and provocative stories being carried in the Indian media. They are utterly baseless and unfounded. Pakistan strongly rejects such allegations,” he said in the statement.

He drew attention to the statement by the Adviser to the Prime Minister of Bangladesh, Gowher Rizvi, refuting a media report that was attributed to him regarding Pakistan’s involvement in the attack, as proof of the Indian media’s “malicious intent.”

“Prof. Rizvi contacted Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Bangladesh to confirm that he has not issued any statement against Pakistan and that the Indian media reports are false. He also advised Pakistan’s High Commissioner to convey this clarification to the Government of Pakistan, to avoid any misunderstanding between the two countries,” the Foreign Office spokesman said.

He said Pakistan deeply appreciates Mr. Rizvi’s timely rebuttal of the reports.

Mr. Zakaria said Pakistan has strongly condemned the terrorist attack in Dhaka and “expressed solidarity with the government and the brotherly people of Bangladesh and offered condolences and sympathised with the families of the victims.”

“Pakistan condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations. Being itself one of the biggest victims of terrorism, Pakistan welcomes Prof. Gowher Rizvi’s call for international cooperation to fight the menace of terrorism,” he said.
 
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Western governments and media may be blaming the Islamic State and al Qaeda but Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and her colleagues are convinced that July 1 attack on an upscale Dhaka cafe that left 20 people, most of them foreigners, dead was carried out by home-grown jihadis.

While a debate rages over the identity of the attackers, Hasina has blamed “some outside forces” for the south Asian country’s worst terrorist attack. Earlier, too, she has held local Islamists linked to the opposition BNP-Jamaat coalition responsible for attacks on bloggers, Hindu priests and foreigners.

“This is part of a major attempt to discredit my government and topple it. They failed to defeat me in elections, they are now using jihadis to bring me down but Inshallah they never will succeed,” Hasina said in Dhaka last week.

Her Awami League colleagues say the attacks on “secular elements” are aimed at demoralising the larger secular mass of Bangladeshis who revel in the “spirit of 1971”, while the violence against Hindus is meant to harm ties with friendly neighbour India. Foreigners, they say, are being targeted to cripple the economy, which is doing well, by scaring away investors and buyers, especially those outsourcing garments.

‘Home-made terror’

“Can’t you see the systematic planned targeting? It is so political,” top Awami League leader and former minister Suranjit Sengupta said. “When you fail to defeat us in elections, you unleash the jihadis.”

Sengupta recalled the “open encouragement” the jihadi groups got during the BNP-Jamaat reign (2001-2006). “The Bangla Bhais were operating as part of that government. The Jamaat is the fountain head of all religious radicalism in Bangladesh, they don’t believe in our independence, our secularism,” he said.

Former prime minister Khaleda Zia is the chairperson of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party.

‘ISI hand’

Information minister Hasanul Huq Inu stunned everyone on Monday, when he said Pakistan’s all-powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had trained up to 8,000 Bangladeshi jihadis in the last two years and sent them back to launch a violent campaign.

“They are trying to avenge 1971, they can’t get over it. First they hit India at Mumbai, now they hit us here in Dhaka with these homegrown jihadis who they have trained, “Inu told mediapersons.

Intelligence officials say they have furnished several detailed reports on the “Pakistan-trained jihadis”.

“That is why we identified two Pakistani diplomats who were part of this whole game… and expelled them. They were both ISI staffers,” a national security intelligence (NSI) official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he didn’t have the permission to speak to media. The NSI is Bangladesh’s top spy agency.

Training camps

The official said six batches of Bangladeshis were given weapons training between February and September 2014 at Naikhongcherri in Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT) that borders Myanmar. The remote hill camp used to be a secret base of Rohingya insurgents active in the neighbouring country.

“After the initial 15-day induction at the camp, a batch would be sent to Pakistan, while another batch would be sent to CHT. This went on until mid-2015. By then thousands of Bangladeshi jihadis had been through training, first in CHT and then in Pakistani Kashmir,” the NSI official said.

Indian agencies had found the reports to be true, he claimed.

Some of the Pakistan-trained Islamists had been hunted down, a counter-terrorism unit officer said. “But the most motivated of them were taken to Syrian and Iraqi battlefields by ISI frontmen and then infiltrated back to Bangladesh,” he said. “They formed a new group whose identity is not yet confirmed but which is surely responsible for the Dhaka attacks.”

Was the Pakistan angle for real and not the outcome of the ongoing Dhaka-Islamabad spat over the war crimes trials? The officer said the lone terrorist taken alive after the Dhaka siege had “began to cough out all he knows”.


The gunman, the officer said, had told them he was trained at the CHT camp before being packed off to Pakistan for a three-month intensive training in weapons, explosives and assault tactics.

He started off as an activist of the Islami Chatra Shibir, the student wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami, before joining the ranks of the new jihadi group the Ansar-e-Islam that sent him to Chittagong camp.

The gunman, the only one among the seven attacker to survive the army onslaught, was injured but was being questioned, the officer said.

“His initial version corroborates our previous reports about Pakistani involvement in building up a huge jihadi network in Bangladesh. The ISIS claims are nonsense, it is the ISI and not the ISIS. This is our Mumbai,” the counter-terror officer said.

The Pakistan angle

Earlier this year, Bangladesh had expelled two Pakistani diplomats for recruiting and funding jihadis. Foreign minister AH Mahmud Ali had even warned Pakistan against interfering in his country’s internal affairs.

Dhaka resents Islamabad’s criticism of the war-crimes trials in which several top Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP leaders have been hanged for collaborating with the Pakistan army during the Bangladesh liberation war of 1971.

Pakistan has condemned the hangings of “loyal Pakistanis” and even threatened to raise the issue in the UN.

But, western governments and media do not buy the government line and believe the Dhaka strike was either carried out by IS or al Qaeda.

The US sees al Qaeda in Indian Subcontinent footprint but most others have bought the Islamic State claims that “our boys” were involved in the slaughter at Holey Artisan cafe.

Local media carried pictures and details about the jihadis within minutes of their photographs going up on the Islamic State website.

The attackers were well educated, went to expensive private universities and one of them was the son of an Awami League leader, media reports said.

“They were highly indoctrinated and motivated, so they stayed back to fight to a bitter end, but their combat training is poor so their resistance folded up in 15 minutes, “ said Col Tuhin Masood of the Rapid Action Battalion that joined the para-commandos in the final assault.

Indian intelligence backs the Bangladeshi claims.

“The Lashkar-e-Taiba has been running a major operation in Bangladesh, recruiting and taking jihadis out for training, using their Rohingya fronts,” said an official of the Research & Analysis Wing, India’s external spy agency.

Refusing to be identified, the R&AW spy said Bangladesh security forces had neutralised many of the jihadis. “They killed them in encounters and they arrested a number of them. That is how they came to know of ISI’s involvement and so these under-cover ISI staffers were expelled,” he said.

But, the Bangladeshi forces failed to penetrate the new jihadi groups and get a picture of their command and hierarchy, he said.

The ISI used its Lashkar front, Fala-I-Insaniyat Foundation, to enter the Chittagong-Myanmar border area. The foundation members spread out as refugee aid work among Rohingyas to identify jihadi recruits to train and indoctrinate them, he said.

(The writer is a former BBC journalist and a noted author.)

Thoughts and judgment is of the author
conspericy theories won't help yourself from looking like a fool. Blaming Pakisitan for everything won't do any good. We're not the ones stuck in 71 exchaning portraits and what not lol.
 
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conspericy theories won't help yourself from looking like a fool. Blaming Pakisitan for everything won't do any good. We're not the ones stuck in 71 exchaning portraits and what not lol.

I mentioned that the report is researched and authored by renowned BBC journalist. Who has good insight of the region and history. Speculations will always be there but actual findings will decide of the matter.
 
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