ISIS claims to capture Iranian drone.

[mohsen]

ISIS troops have claimed that they have trapped the drone, so most probably it has been in an area that pilot wouldn't expect the terrorists and mistook the incident (tail loose or engine damage as the result of shooting) as a hardware failure and that's why he has decided to land the drone, the terrorists present in the area gain the chance to reach it before the recovering team, also it's most likely that they didn't even have the time to transfer the drone and that's why they only have these pics from the landing location.
and a word to these false flag Zionists who want to reduce their b@tthurt (RQ170, Hermes, shadow, scan eagle,...) by calling this incident as a capturing the superdrone, very cheap technique, the same as your level of IQ.

also to the other troll who is talking about Qaher, didn't you say the same thing about the Iranian RQ170? keep living in your denial world, that's where you belong.

 

[haman10]

I do believe I am talking to an ignorant person.

same here

The twin tailed Saeqeh made its flight around 2001. The Azarakhsh had not gotten anywhere at the time

you see , you know absolutely NOTHING about our air industry and you just google stuff hoping to say sth worth noting .

Azarakhsh was a RE project which was finished long BEFORE project Saeghe . so when u say "Saeghe made its first flight in 2001 and The Azarakhsh had not gotten anywhere at the time" U r talking non-sense (no offence intended)

So if there was news on the Shafagh.. there is little proof that it has done more than anything other than be news on the local farsi media. Again, the idea of secrecy would make sense if Iran did not "reveal" the Qaher.. but the fact that they did means only two things.. both of which are bluffs; Either the Qaher is a distraction to hide the progress of more sensible projects like the Shafagh.. or that the Shafagh too has fallen to serious delays which needs fake weapons like the Qaher to distract..I am hoping that it is the former.

i don't know why do you feel that iran has to prove him self to anyone

the Gaher was simply a mock-up and nothing more than that , no one claimed it was even a prototype . so all this fuss globally is about nothing but : 1- jealousy 2- hatred

regarding the news on iranian achievements everyone has two choices : 1- to believe it 2- NOT to believe it . period .

now we don't care about anything but security . all these efforts are to bring security to the nation .

and whether they are a "propaganda" case or not , they managed to keep iran the safest country in ME and beyond . and thats enough for iranians .

we Don't need anything more than that . our people don't get blown up by bombs and US drone strikes like people in all other countries around us do . and thats all that matters .

The F-15 was based off a design that was done in the mid to late 60s with the number MCAIR 199. I wonder how you came up with the idea of the 50s when the RFPs were not even finalized by 67.

McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Factsheets : McDonnell Douglas F-15 Streak Eagle

Following reviews of proposals, the United States Air Force selected McDonnell Douglas' design in 1967 to meet the service's need for a dedicated air superiority fighter. The Eagle first flew in July 1972, and entered service in 1976.

the design started long before 1967

 

[haman10]

EDIT : In April 1997 Iranian Brigadier General Arasteh, a deputy head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces declared that Iran had successfully designed, constructed, and tested its first fighter aircraft. By late 1997 Iran had begun mass-producing the aircraft

HESA Azarakhsh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this clearly gives u the idea of when did we started working on building fighters

long long before 1997

 

[Hack-Hook]

Well @haman10 you see there is one problem with iran projects and thats they tend to name several project with one name inxeed there is an azarakhsh fighter that has nothing to do with f5 and there waz so.e talk about it several years ago .

 

[haman10]

Well @haman10 you see there is one problem with iran projects and thats they tend to name several project with one name inxeed there is an azarakhsh fighter that has nothing to do with f5 and there waz so.e talk about it several years ago .

yep , unfortunately iran SUCKS in handling media and publicity .

we failed in the most simple concepts of commercialization and propaganda that is "Not to call two fighter jets with one name"

the new azarakhsh fighter that u r talking about is a semi-heavy bomber aircraft which as u mentioned has nothing to do with the F-5 design and is a complete different project than the old one

 

[SQ8]

same here



you see , you know absolutely NOTHING about our air industry and you just google stuff hoping to say sth worth noting .

Azarakhsh was a RE project which was finished long BEFORE project Saeghe . so when u say "Saeghe made its first flight in 2001 and The Azarakhsh had not gotten anywhere at the time" U r talking non-sense (no offence intended)


i don't know why do you feel that iran has to prove him self to anyone

the Gaher was simply a mock-up and nothing more than that , no one claimed it was even a prototype . so all this fuss globally is about nothing but : 1- jealousy 2- hatred

regarding the news on iranian achievements everyone has two choices : 1- to believe it 2- NOT to believe it . period .

now we don't care about anything but security . all these efforts are to bring security to the nation .

and whether they are a "propaganda" case or not , they managed to keep iran the safest country in ME and beyond . and thats enough for iranians .

we Don't need anything more than that . our people don't get blown up by bombs and US drone strikes like people in all other countries around us do . and thats all that matters .



McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Factsheets : McDonnell Douglas F-15 Streak Eagle

Following reviews of proposals, the United States Air Force selected McDonnell Douglas' design in 1967 to meet the service's need for a dedicated air superiority fighter. The Eagle first flew in July 1972, and entered service in 1976.

the design started long before 1967

You not yet provided any proof that the information on the internet about the Iranian projects is not accurate? Rather in one fell swoop rubbishing the claims of tens of well reputed sources such as flightglobal, Aviation week and even Reuters.

I see no proof for you claims on the Saeqeh...nor have you yet shown anything that gives proof of progress. Ignorance is not asking for facts.. ignorance is resorting to smileys when you have little actual knowledge or correct information to demonstrate. And the red part will have you banned the next time for violation of rules. THAT I AM MAKING VERY CLEAR.

And copy pasting from wikipedia does not prove your idea. Here, this proves your assertion on the F-15 wrong and again.. ignorant.

Here is a more detailed and much more informed view on the subject via an official United Air Force document.
http://www.afhso.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120516-036.pdf

Or if the site does not work in Iran. This has some solid references
Origin of McDonnell F-15 Eagle

On October 6, 1965, the Air Force issued Qualitative Operational Requirement (QOR) 65-14F, which defined what later came to be known as the F-X (Fighter-Experimental) project. A Request For Proposals (RFP) was issued to the industry on December 8, 1965. The Air Force initially pictured the F-X as being a close-support multirole aircraft powered by a pair of advanced turbofan engines and equipped with variable-geometry wings. Boeing, Lockheed, North American, Grumman, and McDonnell all wanted a piece of the action and got to work on initial concept studies.

After looking over the initial concept studies, in March of 1966 the USAF issued Concept Formulation Study (CFS) contracts for these requirements to three manufacturers--Boeing, Lockheed, and North American. Although Grumman and McDonnell had not been awarded any Air Force contracts, they nevertheless continued to fund their own studies on the same requirements.

So clearly the ideas started in 1965.. and not any earlier as you falsly claim. Wilful ignorance.
Hence, the track record here is clearly not working out in your favour.

 

[haman10]

see no proof for you claims on the Saeqeh...nor have you yet shown anything that gives proof of progress.

proof of progress ? what ? so now u r claiming that even Saeghe is in working progress ?

ridiculous .

is this proof enough for u ?

And the red part will have you banned the next time for violation of rules. THAT I AM MAKING VERY CLEAR.

if stating facts is a violation of rules , then ....

which one of the forum rules were violated ? (just so that i can stop violating it and get myself banned)

So clearly the ideas started in 1965.. and not any earlier as you falsly claim. Wilful ignorance.

the ideas did not start in mid 1960s , But the "Proposals" did . these proposals are fully pre-designed concepts . they design the concepts and when the army asks for proposals to choose the best one for mass-production ,they offer them .

see ? who is ignorant now ? if the proposals were given in 1965 , then the designing started long before that as a concept from Mcdonnells .

 

[SQ8]

proof of progress ? what ? so now u r claiming that even Saeghe is in working progress ?

ridiculous .

is this proof enough for u ?

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if stating facts is a violation of rules , then ....

which one of the forum rules were violated ? (just so that i can stop violating it and get myself banned)



the ideas did not start in mid 1960s , But the "Proposals" did . these proposals are fully pre-designed concepts . they design the concepts and when the army asks for proposals to choose the best one for mass-production ,they offer them .

see ? who is ignorant now ? if the proposals were given in 1965 , then the designing started long before that as a concept from Mcdonnells .

Pardon me, I meant the Shafagh.. where is the proof of progress on it. The Saeqeh too is sketchy in terms of how many are to be ordered.

Stating facts that have NOTHING to do with the thread are. Especially dragging in Pakistan into an Iran thread will lead to a ban.


And perhaps you also have english comprehension problems. When you give out a RFP you ask firms to come up with ideas.. i.e start working on concepts, proposals etc. Before this, firms can work on their own.. but as the quoted part clearly says. that they did not have concepts ready so they all rushed into the concept stage.

Let me define the two terms design and concept for you.

Concept:A method for determining what features a product should have, and what metrics can be used to measure the quality or performance of the product, based on analysis of customer needs and preferences. The concept engineering process generally includes framing the project, collecting data, analyzing the data, and selecting actions.


Design:
Realization of a concept or idea into a configuration, drawing, model, mould, pattern, plan or specification (on which the actual or commercial production of an item is based) and which helps achieve the item's designated objective(s).




Tell me, where in the world do people give designs before concepts?
That is like saying you write before you think about what you want to write on. .. do you?

 

[Jaanbaz]

Actually it is a two way street.

Dajjal Caliph Goat Sunni Mullah rides a drone to conquer the world

AND

Dajjal Caliph Goat Shia Ayatullah rides a drone to conquer the world

And

Pakistanis get entered from behind by both Dajjal Caliph Goat Sunni Mullahs AND Dajjal Caliph Goat Shia Ayatullahs

sadly.

because we are too much into Islamism and socialism.

We are screwed either way.

 

[500]

The picture was not visible so here you go



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This do not looks like the claimed "Super Drone". The Iranian are more optimistic abut the one the developed from US RQ-170 or a few other armed drone that are prime candidates to be termed Super Drone by Iranians, not the one shown in pic with ISIS.

If it was Iran they would say: our genius engineers hacked super advanced Zionist stealth drone.

Yup, exactly like how Iran captured american drone, RQ-170
Anyway, ISIS hacking communication link to Iranian drone(if there exists any) and capturing it, is more believable than Iran doing the same thing on american drone.

Unlike the RQ-170 this thing did not even broke the wing during the landing.

 

[Archdemon]

#IslamicState getting more sophisticated - captures drone. Perhaps hacked the communication link to the drone?

 

[Oublious]

isis took control of iranian uav...

not very good quality...

 

[Arsalan]

If it was Iran they would say: our genius engineers hacked super advanced Zionist stealth drone.


Unlike the RQ-170 this thing did not even broke the wing during the landing.

Yup they would have said that if/when they have done it.

NO REASON TO TROLL AND DERAIL THE TOPIC

If you have nothing positive to contribute why bother posting at all?
I am not referring only to this particular post as your overall contribution are all good but i am disappointed at what you tried to do here.

 

[500]

Yup they would have said that if/when they have done it.

NO REASON TO TROLL AND DERAIL THE TOPIC

If you have nothing positive to contribute why bother posting at all?
I am not referring only to this particular post as your overall contribution are all good but i am disappointed at what you tried to do here.

What I tried to say here is that this is another proof that UAVs tend to crash, sometimes intact. And it does not mean they were hacked by some genius.

 

[Serpentine]

What I tried to say here is that this is another proof that UAVs tend to crash, sometimes intact. And it does not mean they were hacked by some genius.

A UAV with weight of RQ-170 flying kilometers above the ground crashing is not the same as a primeval Iranian drone flying in low altitude crashing, hence you are only here to troll. Many U.S think tanks already admitted that Iran most probably has spoofed the GPS system of the RQ-170 to land in Iran, but since it was landed in a desert and not a paved way, its landing gear was broken.

Now this Iranian drone that has been captured by IS, we are producing them since the Iran-Iraq war era, so it's not any cutting edge technology, but RQ-170 was one of the most advanced U.S drones and a totally different case, so again, you are here to pay back by trolling.