ISI's Brigadier Martyred in Waziristan

[SoulSpokesman]

@Bleek: said Burn down Kandahar, and move onto Paktika, Khost, Kunar, etc until they unconditionally surrender.

Most Indians would wholeheartedly endorse a Pakistani invasion of Afghanistan. Please go ahead

Regards

 

[Riz]

dont belive he killed by terrorists , is our establishment cornering pro IK officers inside the military and lumber agency ?

 

[Tamerlane]

dont belive he killed by terrorists , is our establishment cornering pro IK officers inside the military and lumber agency ?

Well, the same day that Adil Raja posted a video about a potential Brigadiers’ rebellion this Brigadier gets knocked off. Not saying that it is linked but the coincidence was interesting.

 

[Sugarcane]

ISI was supposed to protect national interests on foreign lands, it's operatives getting hunted on Pakistan soil is enough to bust the myth of lumber 1. As things have unfolded in last one year, I really have no Idea that he was actually working to protect country or got killed while on suppressing spree of citizen of occupied Pakistan.

So no good/band sentiment from my side, I am Neutral.

 

[Tornado23]

And after that?
Don't you think that we Pakistanis, as a nation, always concentrated on non issues? America Hamara dushman hai, yeh Hamara dushman hai woh Hamara dushman hai, and meanwhile intelligence agencies, military and political ghundas in Pakistan kept killing and abducting those people who were actually the strength of Pakistan? Don't you think we Pakistanis lost 1971 because we hated Bengalis just because of their skin color and that they were more hardworking and intellectually better? Don't you think after 1988 we sent thousands and thousands of "mujahids" to Indian Kashmir where majority of them was hunted down by Indian army? Kashmir is filled with unmarked Graves of Pakistanis, who lost their lives because Einsteins sitting in military establishment of Pakistan thought that it would be a good idea to send these youngsters in Kashmir? India on the other hand concentrated more on working on development and understanding the roots of terrorism and working on it on a national level. Today Pakistan is ready to given Kashmir to India, but now India wants more. It's another story.
So we better concentrate on real issues.

Edit: India is our enemy, there is no doubt in it. They want to grab whole of pakistan, and there is no any doubt in it too. But to understand the way India is dealing with this situation is important. Oppression of own people and fighting enemy at the same time is probably not a good idea.
The best approach to the situation is to empower our own people on national and international level. Understanding our own people and work for them, uniting them will be a better idea.
You can't bargain from a weak standpoint.

what do you mean after that?

After the 49-50s debacle, the Afghans again tried to strong arm Pakistan over Pashtunistan, with border skirmishes and them actually massing tanks on the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan. They still continued to support terrorists in Balochistan and when the Soviets came in the 70s, Pakistan saw that as an opportunity to finally retaliate and kill 2 birds with one stone (Soviets and communist afghan govt), by supporting the mujahideen against them both ultimately over throwing the communist afghan govt and the Soviets, for the Taliban (90s) to come into power. It was only until 2001 was when the afghan govt came back and started hating on Pakistan again supporting the TTP and balochistan terrorists again and also conducting numerous cross border fire raids against Pakistani troops.


With regards to 1971, there was general racism in the public, not just in the military and politics. But the loss of 1971 is attributed to the fact that Pakistan had no means of defending East Pakistan properly due to the false flag India did against itself to close the airways thus stopping Pakistan to reinforce its troops in EP (before the initial war in December). EP separation was also due to a certain Mujibur Rehman colluding with RAW since 1966 about the separation of East Pakistan. There are also a lot more factors with regards to economic distribution and what not.

Kashmir.....what a moron. What an absolute moron you are. India has attacked Pakistan and aided terrorists against Pakistan before 1988. 1988 was a direct result of their attacks. Tit for tat. You absolute cuck

 

[TheSolution]

The problem with us is, we take farts as attacks, and attacks as farts.
What Afghanistan was doing with us was not more than just clowning, what we did to them was a crime. And then when they attacked us, we thought of ourselves as victim.
That's what we Pakistanis think of us. Which is obviously wrong.

Are you kidding me?

It was full on destabilisation of the frontier regions that took thousands of innocent lives over the decades and continues to, FDI was lost, infrastructure destroyed, literally schools etc shot up and blown up. They celebrated it.

And of course openly claiming a sovereign nation's territory.

We did the right thing, their BS cost us a lot.

And actually we didn't even do much at all, there was already infighting inside Afghanistan, we occasionally supported one or both sides.

And after that?
Don't you think that we Pakistanis, as a nation, always concentrated on non issues? America Hamara dushman hai, yeh Hamara dushman hai woh Hamara dushman hai, and meanwhile intelligence agencies, military and political ghundas in Pakistan kept killing and abducting those people who were actually the strength of Pakistan? Don't you think we Pakistanis lost 1971 because we hated Bengalis just because of their skin color and that they were more hardworking and intellectually better? Don't you think after 1988 we sent thousands and thousands of "mujahids" to Indian Kashmir where majority of them was hunted down by Indian army? Kashmir is filled with unmarked Graves of Pakistanis, who lost their lives because Einsteins sitting in military establishment of Pakistan thought that it would be a good idea to send these youngsters in Kashmir? India on the other hand concentrated more on working on development and understanding the roots of terrorism and working on it on a national level. Today Pakistan is ready to given Kashmir to India, but now India wants more. It's another story.
So we better concentrate on real issues.

Edit: India is our enemy, there is no doubt in it. They want to grab whole of pakistan, and there is no any doubt in it too. But to understand the way India is dealing with this situation is important. Oppression of own people and fighting enemy at the same time is probably not a good idea.
The best approach to the situation is to empower our own people on national and international level. Understanding our own people and work for them, uniting them will be a better idea.
You can't bargain from a weak standpoint.

Why are you too cowardly to say Afghanistan is an enemy?

You mention India wants to grab parts of Pakistan, but Afg doesn't when it literally openly claimed 2 entire provinces, denied entry into the UN? Literally funded insurgency that destabilised things immensely with thousands of innocent lives lost


We didn't even do much in Afghanistan. They were already having clashes ever since the Soviets left.