Is the Navy's newest sub worth the price?

[T90TankGuy]

I disagree..been Hindu subscriber for a while. They have a left leaning agenda.

more of a socialist leaning . but in all i would say they do show both sides adequately.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

more of a socialist leaning . but in all i would say they do show both sides adequately.

That is correct....

 

[illuminatidinesh]

IN paid just around $1bn for 10 years for Akula 2 submarine and 2 more submarines of this type are likely to come from Russia within next 2-4 years. And here, if it was worth paying high price for PAK FA/ FGFA then it was because PAK FA/ FGFA will be the best fighter of the latest generation, fit in comparison with US’s best F22/ F35, but we know that Russian submarines are still being improved to catch up with German and mainly with US’s submarines and its very likely that Russian submarines for Indian Project 75I will be of next generation and much more advanced than their current Akula 2 submarines so its better that IN would get more submarines from Project 75I which would come in production from 2020 onwards. I read somewhere that IN may prefer to have 9 Scorpeon submarines (in place of only 6) from France which will come in production from 2015 and 9 submarines from Russia for Project 75I which will come in production from 2020 onwards as it will be economically cheap to have more submarines after having complete production lines of these two. I think, IN may either return this Akula 2 submarine by 2021, or, they may again lease it for 10 years more only and may produce one more submarine through Project 75I till 2030. At the same time this Akula 2 nuclear submarine is itself a generation ahead than any submarine of Indian neighbours

I think U are confusing Project 75I to nuke subs.... Or is it am not getting a grip on ur post?

ts very likely that Russian submarines for Indian Project 75I will be of next generation and much more advanced than their current Akula 2 submarines so its better that IN would get more submarines from Project 75I which would come in production from 2020 onwards.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

The guy dosent understand the difference between an SSN and an SSBN. I read the whole article and it is full of confusion...deterrence patrol? SSN? what was this guy smoking when he wrote it? The article has a few technical points but he is comparing it with the Sea Wolf class which we arent going to fight.

The Submarine is not supposed to be used in war? Where and how did he know about the clauses which are strictly kept under wraps since the lease of the submarine was signed? He is confused between the clauses of the old Chakra with the new one.

IMHO the author hasn't done enough research.

 

[ganimi kawa]

One of the rare bloopers by The Hindu! So many Bulls**t facts together.............


1.Not much of a sea-based deterrent, says Pravin Sawhney

---- Well, Mr. Sawhney, It was never designed or intended to be a nuclear deterrant. It is a hunter killer sub built to shoot the enemy subs!............

Now, why would a navy need something like that? Useless stuff, according to you!



2.The Russian Akula sub, given the same name, INS Chakra comes with similar purpose and rules of engagement, like the earlier deal.

----Bullsh*t, this time the sub is here to fight and is armed to teeth.

INS Chakra will also be armed with the 300-km range Klub-S land-attack cruise missiles. Link

This Club-S is not for diwali fireworks, you know! Also, if I'm not wrong we will be getting Shkval Torpedoes with it, nasty stuff!!!



3.The technology of the 6,000 tonne vessel (ATV) is between first and second generation vintage.

----Worst case scenario, ATV is completely based on Akula 1 (though many reports say it's akula 1 improved or even Akula 2). Even then Akula 1 was first comissioned in Russia in 1984, if the author thinks that russian subs at that time were 1st or 2nd gen then he is a fool!

Not to mention the latest gen Indian sonars and EW systems on arihant, far ahead of the 1st or 2nd gen stuff.


4.India's S-2 vessel armed with 700km K-15 missile will have difficulty in even deterring Pakistan as, given its limitations, it would be required to be positioned closer to hostile shore.

----The same missile tube on S2 can carry a K4 missile with >2000km range.. Has he forgotten about K4?

Also K15 is useful in validating many techs like underwater launch which will be used in K4. So K15 goes serve a purpose.


5.Why cannot ISRO with capabilities to propel rockets up to 10,000km help DRDO make 8,000km ballistic missiles?

----Answer is ,we don't need one. A K series missile with around 5000 km range is where we will cap the program.


In short the "EDITOR" needs to do some homework.