Is Pakistan under threat??

[Taimoor Khan]

Please give me a break that Irani Gas has a price issue lol this is a GCC propaganda the Irani gas come cheaper than the Sui, GCC has walked into our war with this RADAR and the sooner we realize it the better. Pakistan will just need to Nuke this location before throwing one on India successfully. In Pakistan India war of Nukes every one Knows it will be a MAD(Mutually Assured Destruction) and UAE just became a part of it LOL for no reason. Talk as much as you want but Military know the RADAR better than you and me. It was better for UAE to just stay with Patriot batteries they were good to defend from Iran but posing a threat to our Nuclear deterrence against India and Israel just brought them on the list of to be nuked countries in an event of a MAD(Mutually Assured Destruction).

Dont quote me on this but location of this site right on the mouth of Gulf may not effect our nuke strikes on India, going east, but if push comes to shove, and we have to nuke Israel, then there is a possibility that this facility might be used in an attempt to stop Pakistani BMs in their boost phase, going west from Pakistan.

 

[BHarwana]

Lets include Iran and Oman also as they have defense agreements with India or no ?There is a naval listening base opposite to gawadar in Oman where Indian navy is stationed..

I don't know anything about Oman. Not much information about them but Iran has ties to India because of Russia but both Iran and Russia are moving away from India because of USA that is why Irani defense minister came to Pakistan to enhance Military corporation when UAE prince was in India. It is time to take Iran off that list

 

[CriticalThought]

You are making as much sense as if you said PAF TPS-77 are for the US.

I wouldn't be surprised if they bleed information to the US. I have ZERO trust on the US.

Either we kill Yemeni civilians for them or they threaten us this is wrong. It is time to show them a clear divide and stand firm on our feet and China will definitely help in this issue. Nothing is going to go in our favor with only saying jee to UAE, it is time to show the stick the only language they learn. India can only dream of attacking us, the days of Indian aggression are gone. Stop the orange line train and get SU 35s with that money or they will circle us. Not long you will hear this system being Placed in Afghanistan. what will we do then????

Those Yemenis aren't your friends either. They will kill you sooner than you could say hello. Do you remember the recent sinking of a PN ship near yemen?

Nothing like that. UAE has plenty of power, you might want to look up "little sparta" before you make clueless statements.

Btw THAAD is not ADS, but BMD.

And the investment you talk of is still in the "pledge" phase, it has not been approved by the top leadership.

Sir after that 'brotherly hug' the money might as well be in their bank account. The only way to make it more intimate would be to close eyes while hugging...

 

[Khafee]

We have the option of turning them off during our tests or actual offensive launch

Shut down an LR radar system? Good idea.

Sir after that 'brotherly hug' the money might as well be in their bank account. The only way to make it more intimate would be to close eyes while hugging...

The guy who was hugging is not the guy writing the cheques. Any more out of me, and I will be in trouble, but hope you got the msg.

Even Iran ? Coz Iran is doing business

Chabahar is a direct competitor to Gawadar, but do you see that being mentioned?

 

[CriticalThought]

https://www.ciponline.org/research/entry/u.s.-arms-transfers-to-the-uae-and-mideast-security


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3bc4f26eb67_story.html?utm_term=.44b59fdc2598

Have you watched videos of US special forces exhorting Afghani villagers to war against Taliban? They make them feel like they are on top of the world. Which is exactly what you will do to your pawn you want to use.

 

[Khafee]

Dude you want me to read some thing from that particular source, written by that particular person, and info based around misinformation and propaganda the Americans are very good at?
Americans have a habit of praising the Arabs to keep making them feel they are both secure and important. What else do you want them to say? UAE is not ell defended so UAE starts running around seeking other allies?

Why do the Americans need to keep a presence in the so called lil Sparta if I must ask then?


Please try and depend on alternative media a bit more and you will start seeing the real picture of things


UAE has no history of having proven any warrior like skills in any full scale war yet, and all assumptions or praises or theories are but just on paper...

So let's not depend on something that has never been tested...

I will take the word of ex-PA officers in the UAE military over yours, any day. Thank You.

 

[imadul]

Don't worry we know how to defend UAE. Their are plenty of people who are willing to fight for UAE. Our Pakistani community (Pathans & Baloch ) especially






All baseless lies

There has been both formal and informal relations. Diffucult to know depth of informal relations.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/...iplomatic-office-in-united-arab-emirates.html

 

[New World]

Exactly!!! his BS should be removed !!!

didnt get your point?

 

[Taygibay]

I just have a problem with people claiming "Mini Sparta" thingy
Spartans were something .... and not every one can be ....
Let's not belittle them with such comparisons?

Should have read the link, mate! The comparison is to Sparta
as the most willing of Hellenic nations : Athens, Macedonia ETC.
That is how the UAE stands out amidst GCC in the US eyes.

Have you watched videos of US special forces exhorting Afghani villagers to war against Taliban? They make them feel like they are on top of the world. Which is exactly what you will do to your pawn you want to use.

Of course, that is one aspect of it. Again, let's not be naïve!
But it is also how Belichik convinces no-names and has beens
to win Superbowls and how management boost employees moral.
Not bad by nature; it depends on how you use and abuse it.

Good day both and all, Tay.

 

[RedStar86]

They put systems in west Europe as if against Iran but actually its to contain Russia.. they put them also in south Korea as if against north Korea but actually its to contain China and they put systems also in UAE that could be against Pakistan. They are being bullies.. and it wont help them because pak has MIRV tech now that could manage these systems.

 

[Safriz]

Increasing Boost phase velocity will solve the problem.
Thats the reason why Pakistan is not increasing range of Missiles. Instead increasing Boost phase velocity or using the same power which could have been used to throw the warhead further , in increasing missile speed.
Faster the missile, the more difficult to intercept.
UAE THAAD will be effective against slow moving Iranian liquid engine missiles.

 

[IceCold]

Well the info provided in the first post is valid. Iran is in Nuclear deal so why the RADAR when America has only 6 of them, why place such a crucial asset next door to Pakistan?? They had these on Russia China and Now Pakistan, well USA is crossing it's limits shouldn't the world react. They are not placing any in South Korea where it is needed to keep check on North Korea but why here???? The only country with capable Ballistic missiles is Pakistan and is there any thing UAE is doing wrong that will throw it in war with Pakistan. The question remains Why? Burj got a tiringa recently but why pose a threat to Pakistan when we are not.

Dont you think that before sharing information UAE will also require a nod from uncle SAM? Because such critical technologies usually have american operators @Khafee (you can correct me on this one)
US no matter how pro India it becomes would still like to at least remain neutral in Indo Pak conflict. Sharing such crucial information with Indians means both UAE and US becoming a party to indo Pak conflict which i doubt will ever be the case. Our relations with the arab world have not touched such low that any of the GCC countries become a direct threat to Pakistan and vice verse.

 

[Khafee]

Dont you think that before sharing information UAE will also require a nod from uncle SAM? Because such critical technologies usually have american operators @Khafee (you can correct me on this one)
US no matter how pro India it becomes would still like to at least remain neutral in Indo Pak conflict. Sharing such crucial information with Indians means both UAE and US becoming a party to indo Pak conflict which i doubt will ever be the case. Our relations with the arab world have not touched such low that any of the GCC countries become a direct threat to Pakistan and vice verse.

No US operators. All Emiratis

http://fortblissbugle.com/uae-graduates-second-class-of-thaad-air-defenders/

On the Pak-Indo conflict, there is a lot I can share, unfortunately I can't. But rest assured, irrespective of what any media says, Pak will be in a good position.

 

[BHarwana]

Dont you think that before sharing information UAE will also require a nod from uncle SAM? Because such critical technologies usually have american operators @Khafee (you can correct me on this one)
US no matter how pro India it becomes would still like to at least remain neutral in Indo Pak conflict. Sharing such crucial information with Indians means both UAE and US becoming a party to indo Pak conflict which i doubt will ever be the case. Our relations with the arab world have not touched such low that any of the GCC countries become a direct threat to Pakistan and vice verse.

Uncle sam has supported India already much in Obama administration but Trump intentions are yet to be seen so not jumping to conclusions. But UAE is Munafiq to Pakistan that is for sure.

But after what Yemeni Missile just did in Riyadh I don't view THAAD as a threat so I got my answer to this thread.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Rather than taking the matter to UN, If a senior defence official from pakistan. Goes and sits in a room of UAE princely palace & talks about this matter , with them, I bet the threat can be changed to a strength!.

As it's a policy of pakistan, we regard strength of UAE, KSA. , Kuwait , Egypt, Jordan, Turkey & indonesia as the strength of Pakistan. We just need to keep talking. Even if India makes 100 years of friendship and alliance with UAE , Pakistan shall always be better,

For example USA is a very , very Good defence partner of UAE, yet when pakistan asks, we get secrets and we get support from UAE against USA.

Pakistanis just needs to be alert and honest.