Is Pakistan or Turkey Next? After Qatar..

[jacklord]

I see two views Turkish we damn care and Pakistan no we have good ties and we are powerful both turkey and Pakistan depending on gcc economy the policy neutrality is fading fast in Middle East and stakes are high Pakistan telling whole world that they are fighting terrorism but still world after recognizing efforts still blaming them for cross border incident India Iran Afghanistan all following same line you are exporting terrorism only gcc till now supporting Pakistan stance not blaming them even though 265 Pakistan directly and indirectly involved in terror activities only in Saudi Arabia including madinah bombing terror cell it's shows how lenient gcc still against a country and still providing it's 3m citizen employment in gcc countries still tolerating neutrality in gcc Vs Iran.

 

[Zhukov]

I have asked the question before what is the point of CPEC if India, Iran and UAE did not participate. Add the entire GCC now. CPEC looks like a white elephant



The only problem Iranians do not want Turkey or Pakistan. Iran has proxies in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
Pakistan is of no use there. There is nothing Turkey can do. If the Turks back the Sunnis Iran can arm the Kurds. Plus Assad has the Russian air force covering his back.

Iran will arm kurds? Like seriously you have any idea of kurdish problem in middle east? Read the kurdish rebellion first then comment this hillarious advice of iran arming Kurds.
A lead Hint for you in this regard for a start "Kurdish Free Life Party".
And for your other comment. I have nothing to say for your CPEC Life Jelously. It will proceed and it will prosper no matter to what scale Indian minds fill themselves with venom against it.
Post that point to CPEC Thread not here

 

[BABA AGHORI]

it is ignorable thread.. don't talk just take steps against turkey and pakistan & see the pros & cons. whole world have to suffer time to be ready for WW3..

and world war 3 Pakistan will fight against GCC with it's tanks and jets running on water from Indus?

 

[wiseone2]

Iran will arm kurds? Like seriously you have any idea of kurdish problem in middle east? Read the kurdish rebellion first then comment this hillarious advice of iran arming Kurds.
A lead Hint for you in this regard for a start "Kurdish Free Life Party".
And for your other comment. I have nothing to say for your CPEC Life Jelously. It will proceed and it will prosper no matter to what scale Indian minds fill themselves with venom against it.
Post that point to CPEC Thread not here

What is hillarious about arming the Kurds ?

Revolt by Kurds is a fact. you might not like it. It impacts Iraq and Turkey more than Iran and Syria
Turks should not putting their noses in other affairs when their own house is not in order

 

[Zhukov]

What is hillarious about arming the Kurds ?

Revolt by Kurds is a fact. you might not like it. It impacts Iraq and Turkey more than Iran and Syria
Turks should not putting their noses in other affairs when their own house is not in order

What other people affairs? Qatar is a sovereign state and their ally they are not invading Saudia they are just supporting there ally that is independent country.
And there is no more and less for Kurdish independence. They will take it all the kurdish areas and there will be no stopping them as they have full support of kurdish people. You can never win a war against will of the locals in long term. If Kurds are empowered to have any region in middle east. they will not stop until they get all of it from Turkey Syria Iraq and Iran. Things dont go this way

 

[singlefighter]

Tebrikler arakadshim on your first article!!!! It's a high time you have written such a piece. Here're some of my inputs:

• When Allah-u Azimushshan wants to punish a community/country HE first take out their Akl (intelligence/mental faculties/rational thought process/reasoning etc.). KSA/GCC leadership is going through such a phase!!!!
• KSA/GCC leaderships are completing their parts of the deal to put the entire region into unimaginable Fitne and Fesat.
• With only 70 cents in her treasury Turkey went to secure the Northern Cyprus from the annihilation by the Greeks. It sounds crazy - even the maddest of the mad maxes won't do that!!!! They could fly only a couple of sorties with heavily embargoed Phantoms to destroy Greek artillery batteries before an amphibious assault!!! But, they did it, and the rest is history!!!! Reis Erdo'an has already put Turkey's weight around Qatar relying on this Ilahi Sunna - many a time an insignificant and small community is made victorious over their much larger tyrannical foes.
• Don't know about Pak, but Turkey knows that the serial will come to her!!! And, folks aren't keeping it secret!!! And, Turkey is preparing for that eventuality. Therefore, the defense of Qatar is in fact the defense of Turkey!!!!
• The conditions for the capitulation of Qatar bear impeccable similarities to those Ebu Jehl and Ebu Lehap used to regularly put to Resulullah (PBUH) and the early Muslims from Medine!!!! Haven't these folks changed even a bit in the last 14 centuries??????
• The common folks in KSA/GCC must have now no ambiguity about the intention and functions of their leadership. Hopefully, they'll act accordingly!!! This is the biggest PLUS from this current fiasco!!!!
• As for the Ehl-i Iman, we're under constant C4I of the All-Powerful, All-Seeing, All-Hearing ONLY ONE LORD, without WHOSE permission, planning, design, control and command not a single electron changes it's 100% definite energy level and position!!!! Hence, we are relying on HIM and HIS PLANS!!!!

With Selam and Dua....


As for Pak and Turkey - it's two countries one nation!!!! Haven't we already seen of the serious faces of the Turkish and Pak chiefs only a couple of days back!!!! For they're anticipating some dark moments approaching the region!!! As for the Muslim Brotherhood, one may not agree with them or their polices, but relegating them to terrorists????? Can any Muslim really do that to Hasan El-Banna or Sait Kutup????? And, that too on behalf of "sissies" who blew up few tunnels that were bringing some life support to Gaza?????

Pakistan and Turkey must join hands,and sign a defence treaty.which give assurance to dark lords of the region that they have to face full destruction if they put sanctions on any one of these two countries.because ummah is looking towards these two countries to lead them.these irani and saudis are looks down upon the other muslim countries.they have no respect for Pakistan either Turkey.we must" get ready your horses".for that both countries must join each other in every field of military build up and economical progress.other wise these arab thrones and irani mullah will destroy ummah and give israel a free walk over the region.

 

[The Accountant]

As GCC leaders like saudi arabia , UAE moving towards young monarchs its look like old policy of wait and see , patience and compromise for better time is quickly changing from good to worst.recently Qatar event showed how withing few hours friends become enemy over foreign policy irrespective of considering national interest of brotherly muslim arab country.

If this approach is going to continue to move forward i suspect 2 more countries Pakistan or Turkey most like to face another wrath of GCC arab countries after Qatar as both countries are following balanced or some what neutral policy in GCC conflicts.

If diplomatic ,financial or social blockade come into effect how pakistan or turkey will survive.If pakistan choose Iran like Qatar please remember that it has very bad reputation in the world sponsoring militias, funding and training proxies in the region.How can pakistan go close to a nation which is now becoming enemy of USA specially trump has no love for them and any time USA can throw nuclear deal into dustbin and put severe sanctions on iran.

Pakistan only hope is china but can china afford to protect pakistan against GCC as its own financial interest are associated in middle east creating gwadar port - CPEC will also connect ME with China.

Threat is looming and dark clouds are hoovering on pakistan's head .A country which highly dependent on foreign aid and remittances from 3M expats in GCC can not afford ostrich approach by digging its neck and ME sand and wait for the final moment clocking is ticking and major foreign policy revamp is need of the hour.

Thread is open for open minded and wise readers This is my first post so please your feedback is highly appreciated my main focus will be ME politics in future.

Pakistan and Turkey are not small country like Qatar to be bullied like Qatar ... However, you are right that KSA is going to ask to choose between Iran and KSA ...

So we should keep in mind that we have to show strength and sovernighty. I completely agree that Iran is not our friend but there is no need to make it an enemy for the geo political objectives of another country ...

Remember KSA will shout scold and will take some harsh measures but it is not to get involved middle east as it is burning and soon going to get even worst ...

Direct war between Iran and KSA is no inevitable and choosing one side over other means you have to acively engage in war ...

Our policy should be having strong ties with KSA but not to engage in any anti-iran activity ... Meanwhile we need to work on our border controls on Afghanistan and internal security ...

Furthermore, we to identify alternate source of fuel as well as a backup in case of war between KSA and Iran ... Thar oal and solar energy should be our measure source of new electicity generation

 

[shahbaz baig]

and world war 3 Pakistan will fight against GCC with it's tanks and jets running on water from Indus?

Nops we will invite & engulf Russia & china using SCO... and we have ability to do this... if anyone can't live peacefully with us.. so let us destroy the whole world... and we are capable beyond measure.. we will surely die but with you..

hm tuo marain gain sanam tmhain bhi sath ly dobain gain..

 

[wiseone2]

What other people affairs? Qatar is a sovereign state and their ally they are not invading Saudia they are just supporting there ally that is independent country.
And there is no more and less for Kurdish independence. They will take it all the kurdish areas and there will be no stopping them as they have full support of kurdish people. You can never win a war against will of the locals in long term. If Kurds are empowered to have any region in middle east. they will not stop until they get all of it from Turkey Syria Iraq and Iran. Things dont go this way

Turkey has the right to support Qatar. There is nothing immoral or illegal about it. I am just questioning the wisdom of getting in a quarrel with Saudi Arabia

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Nops we will invite & engulf Russia & china using SCO... and we have ability to do this... if anyone can't live peacefully with us.. so let us destroy the whole world... and we are capable beyond measure.. we will surely die but with you..

hm tuo marain gain sanam tmhain bhi sath ly dobain gain..

Lol, no one will fight a war for you... no one has a relationship like USA and Pakistan. And will never have.
The world is sensible enough to pluck out black sheeps if required to save humanity.

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