Is Pakistan-India enmity real or is it a deception to fight bigger countries like US, China & Russia

[GHALIB]

The next war will be a spillover across both borders from civil war in India.

It will be a Hindu Muslim war.

Not an India Pakistan war.

never going to happen , we will continue to live with love with some intermittent danga fasad .

Pakistani hate is reactionary to actions happening in India in last 10 or so years, Kashmir was just a dispute and at least Pakistani did not hate Indians, we fought wars then we spoke then fought then spoke. But last 10 years have totally changed the dynamics and now you will see pure hate among Pakistanis for anything Indian. This should worry Indians because in the next war terrible things will happen.

you look to be different from normal pakistani .

 

[Mace]

The next war will be a spillover across both borders from civil war in India.

It will be a Hindu Muslim war.

Not an India Pakistan war.

Not sure if a Hindu Muslim war will materialise.

But in the last couple of years BJP has managed to convert India viewed as a secular nation to a Hindu nation. Not rabid Hindu nation but something on the lines of Christian secular Australia.

 

[PakFactor]

The next war will be a spillover across both borders from civil war in India.

It will be a Hindu Muslim war.

Not an India Pakistan war.

I remember reading Samuel P. Huntington, whereas he said, after the Cold War the next conflict will be fought along religious fault lines. Even before him, a lot of Political Scientists saw the ground work being laid starting from Israel, a devils spawn implanted and born to create fasad within the region which morphed conflicts that were political in nature, tribal and house/house issues into a religious one. We will see Christians/Jews vs Muslims; the Hindus being cannon fodder.

To balance this out the Muslim World will need to court the Chinese/Russians against EU/US. Some might say why Russia? If past history has shown they’ve never really been accepted by the west and always tossed aside and used when the west needed saving especially during WWI & WWII.

As a politician and strategist, I, would have worked tirelessly to court Russia and integrate them deeply within the Muslim world economically, politically and military.

Honestly, we have nothing in common with the west, EU/US, from the very beginning. It’s been a stupid policy decision starting from Liaquat Ali to all our generals from top to bottom to try and align ourselves with them after repeated knife stabs in the back. Our short sightedness by allying with US against USSR caused the world to witness a Unipolar world; which now needs to be brought back into balance and needs to be done ASAP.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

Pakistan India enmity is no different from what we see in India between Hindus and Muslims.

The difference is that in India Muslims cannot arm.

And in India Hindus are a majority. With a large number of Muslims.

In Pakistan Muslims are a majority. With nearly no Hindus.

India has a vent in the form of communal riots.

That vent is sadly denied to Pakistan.

So we have wars.

You're wrong though, we do have a sizeable Hindu community, especially in Sindh. However our hatred isn't directed at them for being Hindus, it is directed at Indians for all they've done for the past 70 or so years. If you are unable to understand that and persist to think Pakistanis fight you solely because you're hindu, then you fail to understand us completely.

The Pakistani people did not come to harbour actual full blown hatred for you until recent times. The rivalry and strong dislike existed sure, but we didn't associate pure unadultered hatred with your kind until now. And can you really blame us? Even if you put the politics aside, the attitude of the Indian population wasn't really nice at best, Indian media continuously spews hatred and propaganda against us, making you stubborn to believe anything else. When i search about Pakistan on youtube, i do not want to see hoards of sensationalist Hindi News outlets spreading self feel-good propaganda all the time. Because of Hindi media, Indians are deluded into putting themselves on a false superior pedestal against us. This and so much more. This'll only grow under Modi.

If we've started to bite back hard, you guys deserve it at this point.

 

[PakFactor]

Pakistan India enmity is no different from what we see in India between Hindus and Muslims.

The difference is that in India Muslims cannot arm.

And in India Hindus are a majority. With a large number of Muslims.

In Pakistan Muslims are a majority. With nearly no Hindus.

India has a vent in the form of communal riots.

That vent is sadly denied to Pakistan.

So we have wars.

India has no one to blame but itself for the animosity between our two nations. One just had to look at the media during Feb 26th 2019 to see how poisonous Hindu mindset is dead set against Pakistan. Your Bollywood making anti Pakistani films (which are completely useless and devoid of reality) doesn’t help either. Even the slip of tongue from your celebrities shows what’s hidden within.

But I’m happy because now those Pakistani liberals can finally wake up and smell the fire and harden their hearts against India. I would like to see nothing more than a complete wipeout of your country and all Hindus if it comes down to it.

You're wrong though, we do have a sizeable Hindu community, especially in Sindh. However our hatred isn't directed at them for being Hindus, it is directed at Indians for all they've done for the past 70 or so years. If you are unable to understand that and persist to think Pakistanis fight you solely because you're hindu, then you fail to understand us completely.

The Pakistani people did not come to harbour actual full blown hatred for you until recent times. The rivalry and strong dislike existed sure, but we didn't associate pure unadultered hatred with your kind until now. And can you really blame us? Even if you put the politics aside, the attitude of the Indian population wasn't really nice at best, Indian media continuously spews hatred and propaganda against us, making you stubborn to believe anything else. When i search about Pakistan on youtube, i do not want to see hoards of sensationalist Hindi News outlets spreading self feel-good propaganda all the time. Because of Hindi media, Indians are deluded into putting themselves on a false superior pedestal against us. This and so much more. This'll only grow under Modi.

If we've started to bite back hard, you guys deserve it at this point.

Very well put bro.

 

[Mace]

You're wrong though, we do have a sizeable Hindu community, especially in Sindh. However our hatred isn't directed at them for being Hindus, it is directed at Indians for all they've done for the past 70 or so years. If you are unable to understand that and persist to think Pakistanis fight you solely because you're hindu, then you fail to understand us completely.

The Pakistani people did not come to harbour actual full blown hatred for you until recent times. The rivalry and strong dislike existed sure, but we didn't associate pure unadultered hatred with your kind until now. And can you really blame us? Even if you put the politics aside, the attitude of the Indian population wasn't really nice at best, Indian media continuously spews hatred and propaganda against us, making you stubborn to believe anything else. When i search about Pakistan on youtube, i do not want to see hoards of sensationalist Hindi News outlets spreading self feel-good propaganda all the time. Because of Hindi media, Indians are deluded into putting themselves on a false superior pedestal against us. This and so much more. This'll only grow under Modi.

If we've started to bite back hard, you guys deserve it at this point.

Sorry junior. The Indian hatred is mostly reaction to Pak meddling in IOK.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

Sorry junior. The Indian hatred is mostly reaction to Pak meddling in IOK.

Kashmir is a internationally recognized dispute, it is a source of our immense dislike for Indians as well especially since the Kashmiris are muslims and share much of their culture and ethnicity with neighboring Pakistani groups. We have the right to feel upset if they are being ill-treated. However, that still doesn't justifies the sheer volume of the hatred and brainwashing you guys put yourselves into.

Just saying, you guys have hated us more than we've hated you. Again, this is also changing now. Alot of the Indian members do not come here to understand us and our point of view, but try to validate the false point of view of Pakistanis propagated to them by the paranoid Indian Media. When that isn't the case, they try justifying that false point of view themselves which in turn irritates us. Hopefully that is simple enough to be understood.

 

[GHALIB]

India has no one to blame but itself for the animosity between our two nations. One just had to look at the media during Feb 26th 2019 to see how poisonous Hindu mindset is dead set against Pakistan. Your Bollywood making anti Pakistani films (which are completely useless and devoid of reality) doesn’t help either. Even the slip of tongue from your celebrities shows what’s hidden within.

But I’m happy because now those Pakistani liberals can finally wake up and smell the fire and harden their hearts against India. I would like to see nothing more than a complete wipeout of your country and all Hindus if it comes down to it.



Very well put bro.

hindu hatred is causing trouble between indo pak .

I remember reading Samuel P. Huntington, whereas he said, after the Cold War the next conflict will be fought along religious fault lines. Even before him, a lot of Political Scientists saw the ground work being laid starting from Israel, a devils spawn implanted and born to create fasad within the region which morphed conflicts that were political in nature, tribal and house/house issues into a religious one. We will see Christians/Jews vs Muslims; the Hindus being cannon fodder.

To balance this out the Muslim World will need to court the Chinese/Russians against EU/US. Some might say why Russia? If past history has shown they’ve never really been accepted by the west and always tossed aside and used when the west needed saving especially during WWI & WWII.

As a politician and strategist, I, would have worked tirelessly to court Russia and integrate them deeply within the Muslim world economically, politically and military.

Honestly, we have nothing in common with the west, EU/US, from the very beginning. It’s been a stupid policy decision starting from Liaquat Ali to all our generals from top to bottom to try and align ourselves with them after repeated knife stabs in the back. Our short sightedness by allying with US against USSR caused the world to witness a Unipolar world; which now needs to be brought back into balance and needs to be done ASAP.

you have nothing common with china and russia .

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

hindu hatred is causing trouble between indo pak

I thought it's the other way round if you know what I mean. I thought Indo-Pak trouble is causing Hindu-Muslim rift inside India.

- PRTP GWD

 

[PakFactor]

I thought it's the other way round if you know what I mean. I thought Indo-Pak trouble is causing Hindu-Muslim rift inside India.

- PRTP GWD

Your idiot leaders own policies are causing this rift and thanks to your media on top of it flaming the situation. We Pakistani do not have to do anything but sit on the side line and watch.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Your idiot leaders own policies are causing this rift and thanks to your media on top of it flaming the situation. We Pakistani do not have to do anything but sit on the side line and watch.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against daily discrimination.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against riots.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against questioning of their loyalties and occasional need to prove their patriotism.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against Babri Masjid demolition.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested regarding general issues that actually matter to them viz economy, employment, poverty, governance etc.

Suddenly in the wake of CAB, they have been protesting vociferously for weeks with patriotic fervor and zeal. Some of them are even sacrificing their own lives for an issue that doesn't affect them! Wonder where they get the energy to fight for this particular CAB/CAA issue.

- PRTP GWD

 

[PakistaniJunior]

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against daily discrimination.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against riots.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against questioning of their loyalties and occasional need to prove their patriotism.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against Babri Masjid demolition.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested regarding general issues that actually matter to them viz economy, employment, poverty, governance etc.

Suddenly in the wake of CAB, they have been protesting vociferously for weeks with patriotic fervor and zeal. Some of them are even sacrificing their own lives for an issue that doesn't affect them! Wonder where they get the energy to fight for this particular CAB/CAA issue.

- PRTP GWD

For 70 years, they didn't have the means and opportunities to do so. With the power of technology and social media, such things cannot remain hidden. The same is true for us too.

 

[PakFactor]

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against daily discrimination.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against riots.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against questioning of their loyalties and occasional need to prove their patriotism.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested against Babri Masjid demolition.

For 70 years, Indian Muslims never/rarely protested regarding general issues that actually matter to them viz economy, employment, poverty, governance etc.

Suddenly in the wake of CAB, they have been protesting vociferously for weeks with patriotic fervor and zeal. Some of them are even sacrificing their own lives for an issue that doesn't affect them! Wonder where they get the energy to fight for this particular CAB/CAA issue.

- PRTP GWD

Modi Sarkar maybe channeling some powers to them?

When you push someone to the extreme and damage/insult his pride, they will eventually fight back.

Jinnah was right these Indian Muslims would spent the rest of their lives proving their loyalty not to India, but the Hindus. When you don’t accept others as equals end result they say, F**k It. Because, they don’t have anything else to lose. Their are now India Muslims who were in the shadows coming out indirectly saying Jinnah was right. A young generation who are seeing how Hindus are treating Muslims will remember this and engrave it to their hearts, and will get retribution.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

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Modi Sarkar maybe channeling some powers to them?

Definitely

Modi government is more blatant and less subtle about it, therefore if Indian Muslims still do not protest against these atrocities they really are stupid and beyond saving.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

you look to be different from normal pakistani .

He is Mohajir.

- PRTP GWD