Is Los Angeles the worst run city in America - Homeless Update

[Taimoor Khan]

San Francisco I thought was the worst??

 

[nahtanbob]

San Francisco I thought was the worst??

you are correct. san francisco beats LA on the homeless issue

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

you are correct. san francisco beats LA on the homeless issue

LA is still terribly run in terms of urban planning and economic development. SF did an amazing job nurturing Silicon Valley, building out bay infrastructure/transit and creating a self contained economic ecosystem. This is far better than the LA plan (basically do nothing, build no infrastructure, and hope that appreciating home prices due to immigrant influx drives the economy).

SF's problems may be more political than economic.

 

[nahtanbob]

LA is still terribly run in terms of urban planning and economic development. SF did an amazing job nurturing Silicon Valley, building out bay infrastructure/transit and creating a self contained economic ecosystem. This is far better than the LA plan (basically do nothing, build no infrastructure, and hope that appreciating home prices due to immigrant influx drives the economy).

SF's problems may be more political than economic.

San Francisco nurtured Silicon Valley ??
It has nothing to do with Silicon Valley other than being adjacent

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

San Francisco nurtured Silicon Valley ??
It has nothing to do with Silicon Valley other than being adjacent

Bridge and port infrastructure to facilitate transport, subsidies to UC Berkeley/SF state providing educated laborers and tax subsidies attracting big pharma (as clients of Si valley)

 

[nahtanbob]

Bridge and port infrastructure to facilitate transport, subsidies to UC Berkeley/SF state providing educated laborers and tax subsidies attracting big pharma (as clients of Si valley)

The port is in Oakland.

Bridge from where to where ?

UC Berkeley is not in San Francisco. SF State is run of the mill 3rd string college

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The port is in Oakland.

Bridge from where to where ?

UC Berkeley is not in San Francisco. SF State is run of the mill 3rd string college

The SF bay has an integrated development plan between San Francisco, Alameda and San Mateo county. That is why BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit), transbay bridges, etc exist. It is kind of like the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey having development authority over transit on both sides of the Hudson.

Santa Clara (Silicon Valley) and Marin counties aren't too cooperative but they benefit from the regional planning. Santa Clara just joined BART development btw while it looks like Marin is gonna go it's own way and be de-integrated from the SF bay area economy.

While SF state isn't exactly the greatest school, any university education at all is better than none and it does provide a substantial boost to the local economy both directly and for training entry/mid level talent.

 

[nahtanbob]

The SF bay has an integrated development plan between San Francisco, Alameda and San Mateo county. That is why BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit), transbay bridges, etc exist. It is kind of like the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey having development authority over transit on both sides of the Hudson.

Santa Clara (Silicon Valley) and Marin counties aren't too cooperative but they benefit from the regional planning. Santa Clara just joined BART development btw while it looks like Marin is gonna go it's own way and be de-integrated from the SF bay area economy.

While SF state isn't exactly the greatest school, any university education at all is better than none and it does provide a substantial boost to the local economy both directly and for training entry/mid level talent.

Silicon valley gets the workforce around the world - SF State does not cut it in grand scheme of things

the venture capitalists are in Menlo park. The corporate headquarters are in Menlo Park (Facebook), Palo Alto (HP, VMWare), Mountain View (Google), Santa Clara (Intel), Cupertino (Apple) and San Jose (Cisco). Most of the workforce is in Santa Clara County with some in San Mateo County.

the only notable San Francisco based company is Salesforce

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Silicon valley gets the workforce around the world - SF State does not cut it in grand scheme of things

the venture capitalists are in Menlo park. The corporate headquarters are in Menlo Park (Facebook), Palo Alto (HP, VMWare), Mountain View (Google), Santa Clara (Intel), Cupertino (Apple) and San Jose (Cisco). Most of the workforce is in Santa Clara County with some in San Mateo County.

the only notable San Francisco based company is Salesforce

Silicon valley is only part of the SF bay area economy. Suppliers such as Lam Research and Dow Chemical are set up in Alameda County. Companies like Tesla too.

And there's also pharma valley in South San Francisco with Roche, Genentech, Thermo Fisher, etc.

You can't disconnect Silicon Valley from the entire bay area ecosystem

 

[Bilal9]

I just wonder where they go to the bathroom?

The city has some Porta Potties, but those are not sufficient.

Majority of these people are mental patients and mental vegetables. They need to be enclosed in a location different from a major city and away from it.

A comedian suggested fencing off part of a major nowhere state - like Kansas, and then put all the homeless in that state. Aerial disinfection once or twice a month was suggested.

 

[nahtanbob]

Silicon valley is only part of the SF bay area economy. Suppliers such as Lam Research and Dow Chemical are set up in Alameda County. Companies like Tesla too.

And there's also pharma valley in South San Francisco with Roche, Genentech, Thermo Fisher, etc.

You can't disconnect Silicon Valley from the entire bay area ecosystem

I beg to disagree. The only utility of San Francisco is the airport and tourism/culture scene.

Lam Research is 2nd tier firm compared to the likes of KLA-Tencor and Applied Materials which are in Silicon Valley. I will give you South San Francisco has a major concentration of biotech firms.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I beg to disagree. The only utility of San Francisco is the airport and tourism/culture scene.

Lam Research is 2nd tier firm compared to the likes of KLA-Tencor and Applied Materials which are in Silicon Valley. I will give you South San Francisco has a major concentration of biotech firms.

... Are you serious? Lam has double the revenue of KLA and doesn't even compete with KLA in most sectors since Lam is focused on deposition/etch while KLA is focused on metrology. Applied competes with Lam and has higher revenue but also has more market segments so that is expected. You can't categorically say that Lam is worse than AMAT/KLA since one is factually false and one is arguable.

 

[CT-9914 "Snoop"]

brutality against minorities

ironic

 

[casual]

I just wonder where they go to the bathroom?

on the sidewalks

 

[FuturePAF]

you are correct. san francisco beats LA on the homeless issue

Definitely. It’s so bad, people are fleeing, FLEEING, San Francisco to New York. and New York Ain’t so pretty right now either. At least for us, when Eric Adams probably wins in November and comes into office in January, he can start to clean up this city. I don’t think there is any similar hope for people out on the west coast.

Btw, Portland and Seattle aren’t far behind in their appalling conditions.

Seattle

Portland

Courts out there don’t look much different then this