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No need to test ICBM our conflict circle is well under range of our BM and being a Nuclear country if we test ICBM we will become a threat to Europe. Just test ICBM if USA take any more serious actions.
Europe has ICBMs we do not feel threaten from them so it will be a mutual threat that will establish a strategic balance. Being a nuclear power our conflicts will not remain with in our our present BM range. So sooner or later we will have to do that to keep wars away from our frontiers.

Definitely not ... We should build the capability but do not test unless necessary ...

Remember if we have the capability US would no and there is no point of testing... Most important is to have the capability to take care of Aircraft carrier ...

US has three options:

1) Use India, which means China involved as China cannot afford to lose the CPEC route to Indian ocean otherwise CHina will be surrounded from Malacca strait and Indian ocean
2) Afghanistan: for which they have to increase the force size but this will be very risky. First of all supply line of forces in Afghanistan is through Pakistan so sort of impossible furthermore, alot of Pushtoons still have respect for Pakistanis and in case of war against Pakistan US soldiers have to be in front and vulnerable
3) Aircraft carrier,,, this is the only weak point where they can bring two CBG into Arabian sea block our sea lanes and rain us with cruise missiles ... We have to find a away to take care of that ...

Remember for a bigger enemy far far away you have to apply anti-access and area denial and not attacking capabilities ... It will give them further reasons to have a direct attack on Pakistan which is in current scenario next to impossible ...
They will only remain away if they feel threaten

no its not that time this action will turn EU and many other nations against us
They have ICBM why are we not against them.
 
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Europe has ICBMs we do not feel threaten from them so it will be a mutual threat that will establish a strategic balance. Being a nuclear power our conflicts will not remain with in our our present BM range. So sooner or later we will have to do that to keep wars away from our frontiers.


They will only remain away if they feel threaten


They have ICBM why are we not against them.
:disagree::disagree: if we test an ICBM they put sanctions worst than Iraq, Iran combine, so how we will survive in that scenario:disagree:
 
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Its definitely not the time for an ICBM test, it will increase the pressure on us, US has not declared ultimatum like Iraq or Afghanistan...
 
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No need to test ICBM our conflict circle is well under range of our BM and being a Nuclear country if we test ICBM we will become a threat to Europe. Just test ICBM if USA take any more serious actions.

No need to block supply line just charge VAT of 10% on the value of military equipment being transferred through Pakistan in accordance with WTO. Apply all commercial air traffic charges to all USA logistic flights for Afghanistan. Apply additional taxes to cargo above 12ton on Pakistani roads for wear and tear of roads. Just make sure the bill is above $2billion every year for USA.

1. It's done Kim no harm. The USA is our enemy and one day will try to attack us. It's better if we prevent that day rather than face it.

2. Stopping all supplies is the best option. It will cost them a fortune to ship them via the other 'Stan nations. This is our opportunity to get out from the sins we have committed against Afghanistan. We claim we were forced to do it, let's not keep doing it for dollars.
 
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1. It's done Kim no harm. The USA is our enemy and one day will try to attack us. It's better if we prevent that day rather than face it.

2. Stopping all supplies is the best option. It will cost them a fortune to ship them via the other 'Stan nations. This is our opportunity to get out from the sins we have committed against Afghanistan. We claim we were forced to do it, let's not keep doing it for dollars.
when there is a revolt against a cruel king and nobody is listening to the King any more despite of his rudeness, USA is facing same situation here. They are in no position to wage a war against Pakistan. they know the cost and loss they will suffer.Trump tweets are hurricane in a cup and golden opportunity for Pakistan to safeguard our interests and do a missile test which will ultimately shut uncle sam up.

Its definitely not the time for an ICBM test, it will increase the pressure on us, US has not declared ultimatum like Iraq or Afghanistan...
And are we waiting for that ultimatum to come?

:disagree::disagree: if we test an ICBM they put sanctions worst than Iraq, Iran combine, so how we will survive in that scenario:disagree:
There will be no sanctions as long as USA is busy in Afghanistan.
 
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And are we waiting for that ultimatum to come?
A question was asked in topic, I gave my opinion by judging the tone and behaviour of our military leadership, they dont think that present circumstances require an ICBM test, we are discussing this matter while sitting in our cosy chairs, ppl in the field know better and more than us. The Time will tell.
 
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A question was asked in topic, I gave my opinion by judging the tone and behaviour of our military leadership, they dont think that present circumstances require an ICBM test, we are discussing this matter while sitting in our cosy chairs, ppl in the field know better and more than us. The Time will tell.
But we can debate on this' right?.... and it is not necessary that people who are working or doing something knows more than someone who is not in business. These traitor politicians and some other people had put put Pakistan in such a situation that they themselves don't know what to do. Our foreign office is saying Military will respond and Military spokesman says its upto Govt to take a stance. What the hell this nonsense is?
 
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when there is a revolt against a cruel king and nobody is listening to the King any more despite of his rudeness, USA is facing same situation here. They are in no position to wage a war against Pakistan. they know the cost and loss they will suffer.Trump tweets are hurricane in a cup and golden opportunity for Pakistan to safeguard our interests and do a missile test which will ultimately shut uncle sam up.


And are we waiting for that ultimatum to come?


There will be no sanctions as long as USA is busy in Afghanistan.
Just in your wishful thinking and what about USA will attack on us just like Iraq and Afghanistan if we test an ICBMo_O
 
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But we can debate on this' right?.... and it is not necessary that people who are working or doing something knows more than someone who is not in business. These traitor politicians and some other people had put put Pakistan in such a situation that they themselves don't know what to do. Our foreign office is saying Military will respond and Military spokesman says its upto Govt to take a stance. What the hell this nonsense is?
Still better knows than us i mean military
 
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Europe has ICBMs we do not feel threaten from them so it will be a mutual threat that will establish a strategic balance. Being a nuclear power our conflicts will not remain with in our our present BM range. So sooner or later we will have to do that to keep wars away from our frontiers.


They will only remain away if they feel threaten


They have ICBM why are we not against them.
In the real world the more friends you have the more secure you will be specially if you are comparatively smaller ...

Its better to focus on making more friends (not at the cost of dignity) and strengthen yourself and then there will be a time when nobody can question you if you have a dictatorship, ICBM, or nuclear assets ...

Best example is KSA ,,,
 
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I think a good name for the missile could be Osama.
:lol: Imagine their reaction to it

Pakistan does not even have the "i" of an ICBM. Stop wasting forum bandwidth.
This is unfortunate considering how bad things have gone. People like myself have been saying this for a while that a time will come where Pakistan and US will be at cross roads and a 9/11 like situation maybe created where Pakistan might be asked again to make a choice whether we are with them or against them and in case we are against them, we might be bombed back to stone age again. It turns out that things are rather moving swiftly in that direction and while we still not have an I of an ICBM 16 years latter as you put it, however others wont wait this time to actually capitalise on this situation.
I remember you did mention that we have contingency plans, i just hope that when the shit hits the fan those contingency plans are actually worth it for us not going towards developing an ICBM.
 
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Not the right time, we need a leadership which can handle any pressure from anyone and thinks about Pakistan/Pakistanis 1st. Sadly we don't have that kind of leadership currently right now.
 
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Is it the Time or is it the right Time to do which would be the turning point in Pakistan's history to do something which she should have done quite a while ago. An Intercontinental Ballistic Missile Test. Now its a Prime and best Time to do that. It will be an impressive move to stabilize Pakistan for coming generations. Sanctions will come butt they will be temporary and will not last longer. USA will not be in a position to put sanctions on Pakistan for a long time because of Transit Rout through Pakistan. we will block the supply route and hence create more pressure on USA. Its a Now or never situation, we have lost many opportunities in the past to grab USA by balls and we are in time to do it perfectly now. After losing more than 70 thousand lives on war of terror what we got? nothing. It is the Time to get Some.
This is a stupid idea. What purpose will it serve? Pakistan already has the capacity to get ICBM, they just dont want it. Pakistan's narrative since inception has been that all the military might is against india, I think it makes sense if things stay that way, rather than trying to be hero. Why build ICBM? why not improve literacy rate in country? Why not improve economy. How will a common Pakistani benefit from ICBM.
 
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Pakistan does not need ICBM right now ... what we need is the ability to launch our own satellites in space for both security and economic growth. We need our own telecom, observation (weather, resource mapping and military), and perhaps even navigational purposes one.
 
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