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Is India The Next Space Superpower? | Unveiled

As for ISRO opting to become a satellite launch platform, I think its brilliant on their part instead of waiting for Govt grants which are peanuts compared to what is pend on lining the pockets of corrupt bureaucrats and of course the "defense" (true for two countries having lowest HDI AFAIK), rather they have chosen to earn money, money which they will further spend for R&D.

Yes, by peacefully and politically resolving the issues between India and Pakistan a lot of the "defense" expenditure and human and material resources can be redirected towards space exploration.

Mission to Mars or a moon base is not too far a possibility but there are monumental challenges, like effect of gravity on human physiology (remember moon and mars have different gravities compared to earth normal) what effect will it have on blood circulation, reproduction, bone density et. Then there is the challenge of radiation poisoning I think shields though a core component of space sci fi is yet to be seen.

About radiation shielding I once read that at least on the Moon a below ground shelter built from lunar soil / regolith it has to have a correct amount of the soil as cover. Too less and the cosmic radiation penetrates. Too much and the soil itself generates secondary radiation by reacting with cosmic radiation.

Secondly, I wonder how SpaceX is intending to take care of radiation shielding on its Starship that can supposedly carry 100 people to Mars orbit. Do they intend to use water as the shield or some novel in-development material ?

Then there is the challenge of propulsion, although I have seen some POC on alcubierre drive based upon "speculative theory" of Miguel alcubierre.

https://www.sciencealert.com/engineers-have-proposed-the-first-model-for-a-physical-warp-drive
"If we take the mass of the whole planet Earth and compress it to a shell with a size of 10 metres, then the correction to the rate of time inside it is still very small, just about an extra hour in the year," Bobrick told New Scientist.
What does that mean in simple words ?

Another thing. In Faster Than Light travel, or even somewhat less than it ( through Warp Drive ? ), how does the spacecraft detect and avoid collision with asteroids, other spacecraft or diving into planets, suns and gas fields ?
 
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Yes you did , but now ISRO is full of terrible leadership and shitty funding so good luck with even getting the HLV done let alone making a space station lol
ISRO will compensate for the leadership by hiring Bangla Spaceman
 
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Only if Pakistan and India have managed to solve their issues and collaborated on Space exploration, the talent in the subcontinent is in abundance but it's just the petty border rivalry that keeps the progress away, I'd say India Pakistan, and Bangladesh all should join hands to work over space exploration as equal Partners.
Already happened

South Asia Satellite
 
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Indian Govt has been obsessed with catching up with spacepowers as early as 1967, since both USA and Russia had former colonial enclaves in India and causes immense insecurity in Indian minds

Indian leadership under Nehru was having fantasies human space flight program at a time when India's death rate exceeded its birth rate due to the success Great Leap forward

The first batch of 19 astronauts won, which accumulated valuable experience later

On July 14, 1967, Nehru approved the launch of India's human space business, approved the development of the Shuba-1 spacecraft and selected Indian astronauts. This top-secret mission was code-named the "713" mission.

Things like these ended making India a hyper hanese space puwa
 
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Human spaceflight program would have been very very costly compared to launching sats in initial stages or say in a very young stage of ISRO....

Duh lol , we aren’t talking about ISRO doing a manned mission in 1969 we however are talking about India being a space superpower which it will likely be never due to leadership and funding
 
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Duh lol , we aren’t talking about ISRO doing a manned mission in 1969 we however are talking about India being a space superpower which it will likely be never due to leadership and funding

India may not be a space super power but it's no joke either when it comes to space.....
 
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India is a vaccine super power...tens of thousand Indians dead due to lack of vaccines, and add to it the lack of oxygen. And now there is shortage of vaccines, the lopsided and skewed supa powa dreams showing and shattering.

Leads in deaths from TB, Cholera, other deadly diseases, India is a world leader in HIV infected patients.


Seems as though everything about India is fake and is just Hubris and perception management, to fool the world and to fool the poor Indians.
 
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Yes, by peacefully and politically resolving the issues between India and Pakistan a lot of the "defense" expenditure and human and material resources can be redirected towards space exploration.



About radiation shielding I once read that at least on the Moon a below ground shelter built from lunar soil / regolith it has to have a correct amount of the soil as cover. Too less and the cosmic radiation penetrates. Too much and the soil itself generates secondary radiation by reacting with cosmic radiation.

Secondly, I wonder how SpaceX is intending to take care of radiation shielding on its Starship that can supposedly carry 100 people to Mars orbit. Do they intend to use water as the shield or some novel in-development material ?



What does that mean in simple words ?

Another thing. In Faster Than Light travel, or even somewhat less than it ( through Warp Drive ? ), how does the spacecraft detect and avoid collision with asteroids, other spacecraft or diving into planets, suns and gas fields ?

living underground is one option but you have already highlighted the issue "what of radiation in the soil"?, living underground is a temporary solution. How effective it proves against cosmic radiation in the long term.

Other option is terraforming the moon and mars but that again is a monumental task both in terms of scientific, logistic and financial terms.

I haven't read much on SpaceX Starship but within the current scientific capabilities I would assume multiple layers of outer hull mixed with lot of lead and may be water but here comes the next challenge every ounce increase as mass of the ship reciprocates in a larger spend of reaction mass. Unless of course we as humans could come up with more efficient propulsion system I don't know fission, fusion, antimatter, dark matter or quantum.

Now about alcubierre, according to special theory of relativity "mass" cannot exceed/approach the speed of light (remember e=mc squared) instead of travelling in space ina straight line according to alcubierre space will be bend.

Imagine a flexible stick, an ant (human space ship) travelling from one end to the other will take a lot of time but if we bend the stick in a circle (so to speak) the ant can simply jump from one end to the other in the blink of an eye. But then again the energy requirements are not just monumental they are beyond human scale so far.

Now the bigger question can anyone travel more than speed of light, there isn't too much of a conflict between religion and science its only that the religious fraternity has always been ignorant (so to speak regardless of which religion they are from), Prophet PBUH during mairaj travelled to 7th sky, but when he came back the water he used for oblution before Jibrail knocked was still flowing and that travel did cost him 27 years of his life. What happened did the time become zero means the universe stopped or did he travel at a speed beyond human imagination or scientific proof, some points to ponder about. All three major religion with scripture based upon "revelation" speak about 7 skies, but Quran also mention that what we see in the sky (the stars etc) is the first sky so what actually are 7 skies, may be 7 dimensions.....


Personally I think space travel is extremely inefficient over large distances, may be we see singularity linked gates (black hole) or quantum teleportation linked gates, linking one planet to the other, just few thoughts....
 
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why not Mars ?
Rather than this large verbose, why don't we talk in numbers and you give me YOUR estimation of the cost of setting up and maintaining a Mars colony and show that number is achievable? Show some maths to support your argument.
 
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Rather than this large verbose, why don't we talk in numbers and you give me YOUR estimation of the cost of setting up and maintaining a Mars colony and show that number is achievable? Show some maths to support your argument.

Let alone me I don't think even SpaceX has such an estimate for Mars. However, for an initial American landing stage for the Moon this article has an estimate :
Step 2: paying for going to space

Last week, the Senate passed a version of the Endless Frontiers Act that includes an authorization of $10 billion for funding a second company to join SpaceX as to develop landers for carrying astronauts to the surface of the Moon. Like the advice I gave in my 2004 paper with John Jurist and David Livingston (p. 24), it is a lot cheaper to lobby the US government to pay for something than to pay for it yourself. The sum of the 2018 and 2020 election cycle campaign spending is almost $20 billion. The last two Congresses, 2017–2018 and 2019–2020, passed a total of 787 enacted laws. That suggests getting an unopposed law through Congress probably costs less than $20 billion/787 or about $25 million. An amendment might be cheaper, but having SpaceX oppose might make it more expensive. We will see how that shakes out after the bill goes into conference committee, but even a 50-50 chance of steering $10 billion to pay for a competition Blue Origin has a very good chance of winning second place in is likely worth a lot more than $25 million. Is Jeff Bezos finally shifting his attention to his passion from Amazon to Blue Origin? If so, good for him.
But I think SpaceX and Blue Origin can do Moon cheaper.

Coming back to Mars, SpaceX has a plan of doing an unmanned flyby of Mars in 2024 and a manned flyby in 2026. I think as we move towards that timeline lot of technologies will become simplified which will have the effect of the effort becoming economically cheaper.

Edit : The American military budget just for 2020-21 is 954 billion dollars ! I am sure, if there is government will, a lot of it can be diverted towards Mars colonization initialization.
 
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What's the issue you Indians and this obsession of being a superpower?
Even the Chinese who are several decades ahead of you guys don't talk about being a superpower as of yet.
Seriously Indians should calm down with this their unrealistic fantasies/daydreaming. it's embarrassing, when the country has a vast amount of its people who still cant afford a days meal and even the most basic necessities
 
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India is a vaccine super power...tens of thousand Indians dead due to lack of vaccines, and add to it the lack of oxygen. And now there is shortage of vaccines, the lopsided and skewed supa powa dreams showing and shattering.

Leads in deaths from TB, Cholera, other deadly diseases, India is a world leader in HIV infected patients.


Seems as though everything about India is fake and is just Hubris and perception management, to fool the world and to fool the poor Indians.
Says the only country in the world suffering from Polio, 2nd wave devastation happened everywhere disrupting supply chains, else yesterday we vaccinated 8.6 million people, how many has Pakistan vaccinated? Just a youtube video made by a non Indian and it becomes a troll fest, our private space companies are going to launch their own rockets next year, something which you as a country have been unable to do.
What's the issue you Indians and this obsession of being a superpower?
Even the Chinese who are several decades ahead of you guys don't talk about being a superpower as of yet.
Seriously Indians should calm down with this their unrealistic fantasies/daydreaming. it's embarrassing, when the country has a vast amount of its people who still cant afford a days meal and even the most basic necessities
Is the video even made by an Indian? This was deliberately posted for trolling and the youtuber uploaded it for views as this is the favourite thing of westerners making video on India and earn money. It’s mostly others who does this Superpower BS misquoting some minister’s speech in Hindi and translate word by word, or some PDFers who twist Vision 2020 plan of Dr. Abdul Kalam as India wanted to be a superpower in 2020. Any ways it’s not the Indians doing it.
 
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