Bhaarat is going down, and it will shatter and break into pieces, mark my words. Not today, not tomorrow but in the forseeable future.
In the end, this break up would be a good thing, which each state being able to wrestle with its own problems and find solutions at their level.
Bhaarat was never meant to be a single country, and this federation which has been imposed by foreigners is doomed to fail.
You cannot run away from your history, this country can never be united.
Ashoka of the Mauryans tried, and managed only to keep the highways clear for trade, he couldn't rule the countryside. He was so exasperated with the rebelling nature of the Bhaarat population that he foresook his conquests, appalled at the bloodshed that he had to carry out with such disappointing results, and subsequently converted to Buddhism.
The Mughal's tried and failed, creating a vicious cycle of debt and taxation, to feed the ever growing numbers of taluqdars and zemindars. A self prepetuating elite of Nawabs, maharajas, maha ranas, amirs who bled the country dry. This had to be done to appease them due to the rebellious nature of the people and the vast distances from the center, but ended up weakening their rule.
The British tried and failed miserably, running back with the tails in their legs, leaving a population that was destitute, and prone to massacring each other.
Even the Maha Bhaarat of yore only existed in a small part of the doab region (between the holy rivers of ganga and jamuna). There was never a big, great old country called Bhaarat, as the affix of Maha suggests.
So please give up this fool's gold of an idea of a great ancient nation. The differences in culture, clothes, food, language, customs, gods, traditions castes, are too vast and are actually an explosive cocktail if mixed. Handle with care, some might advise.
One must look only at the state of maharashtra and the xenophobia recently expressed their by raj thakeray and his navnirman sena. Bollywood stalwarts such as Amitabh and Jaya Bachhan are reduced to grovelling and apologising for daring to speak Hindi at a hindi film muhurat, in Bombay, Maharasthr.
The experiment of a united Bhaarat, whenever tried, has failed miserably.
The Nehruvian/Gandhian/Mountbattenian experiment is doomed to fail too.
Dig Vijaya
Is it any wonder that a Pakistani would like to think so?
People like you would clutch at every straw (however tiny) to convince yourself that India will fall apart, and you keep on wondering why it has not already done so.
Didn't they tell you that India had a zillion separatist movements, that millions didn't have toilets, that India just needs a little help from Pakistan to implode itself.
Well you tried your best for decades, and FAILED. Your own society and country are on the verge of collapse. You also indulged in the biggest genocide after the world war and an orgy of rape and murder to subdue the "Hinduized" East Pakistanis. And failed again in forcing them to subdue, again with the help of this failing nation.
You tried to wrest Kashmir, became a breeding ground for terror all over the world, destroyed your own social fabric and failed again to achieve an iota of the land. And now many Pakistanis are coming to realize that it was a futile dream all along.
Just look at the map Bharat Varsha during the Mahabharata days here.
Hardly the Doab region!
See, you guys converted and felt that the Pre-Islamic history was all Jahiliya. Thats something that you share in common with other converts. Same happened in Persia and Egypt and Afghanistan and countless other places where ancient civilizations were lost to the invasions and conversions. Where ancient libraries were destroyed on the twisted logic that they either are contradicting the Quran or agree with it and have no reason to exist in either case.
India has a glorious history and a glorious future. The middle ages of the loot and plunder by barbarians is a blot on our history and we are determined to remove the blot. By regaining the glories of the past.
Is it any wonder that a Pakistani would like to think so?
History wasn't written by Pakistanis.
People like you would clutch at every straw (however tiny) to convince yourself that India will fall apart, and you keep on wondering why it has not already done so.
Clutching at straws? Female infanticide, female featal abortion, caste discrimination, class divide, rural poverty, farmer suicide, religiously motivated violence, forced convesions, erosion of minority's culture and language, separtist movements in a dozen states i.e. naxalites, maoists, khalistanis, seven sisters, kashmir etc, 40 percent of land not under the govt's writ, hundreds of millions malnourished and on the brink of starvation, religious hindutva extremism, sangh parivar violence and xenophobia, dalit subjugation and murder, rape and plunder common, bomb blasts in every major city, civil/police corruption, majority without sanitation forced to defecate in the streets, lingual and state prejudices and hatred, half the country detests hindi and its speakers.....do you want me to find more straws? What happens when all these straws come together, is you get a very big stick to beat ignorant Bhaaratis.
Didn't they tell you that India had a zillion separatist movements, that millions didn't have toilets, that India just needs a little help from Pakistan to implode itself.
You won't be needing our help for that, you are doing pretty well even without us.
You tried to wrest Kashmir, became a breeding ground for terror all over the world, destroyed your own social fabric and failed again to achieve an iota of the land. And now many Pakistanis are coming to realize that it was a futile dream all along.
Kashmir is not a play thing that you think you have a right over. The people have the right to be governed how they choose. You fear losing kashmir, because you know it will cause a domino effect, and your precias Akhand Bharat Dream will be lost forever.
Just look at the map Bharat Varsha during the Mahabharata days here.
Hardly the Doab region!
What did you expect to find in the time of Mahabharat, a pre tectonic plate crashing map? when Africa, Asia, and Australia were one landmass.
Of course the friggin map will be the same. The point is, did you have one ruler uniting this huge area of the subcontinent in the map?
The map you gave me, and the map I will provide below, actually proves my point. There were dozens of kingdoms in bharat, not one. The kingdom whose story is retold in the Mahabharat Epic is the kuru kingdom, and the two main cities of the protaganists are indraprastha and hastinapura...if you look closely at the map, one is on the yamuna, and the other is on the ganga...the land is the doab region, i.e. the land around and between the two rivers. are you seriously telling me, that the mahabharat conflict was about the whole of bhaarat indo pak subcontinent? it obviously wasn't, and you need to check your historical facts again, or buy a dvd of mahabharat.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg
AS you can see above, during the time of mahabharat, India was far from united. There were literally dozens of completely independant, warring kingdoms. Hardly the dream of magnificence that people like you want to recreate.
See, you guys converted and felt that the Pre-Islamic history was all Jahiliya. Thats something that you share in common with other converts. Same happened in Persia and Egypt and Afghanistan and countless other places where ancient civilizations were lost to the invasions and conversions. Where ancient libraries were destroyed on the twisted logic that they either are contradicting the Quran or agree with it and have no reason to exist in either case.
Your civilisation remained intact after 700 years of muslim rule, so how can you make this claim? Your whole existence, and your coming on this forum is a proof agaisnt your claims...If bharat civilisation had been lost under the conquering arabs,turks,afghans then what is bhaarat today, an arabic/turkish country?
Egypt still has the oldest churches and oldes sect on earth, the coptic christians. They are thriving. As are the christians in syria, and palestine the birthplace of jesus. Facts do not bear out your criticism.
Yes, most Persians adopted Islam a couple of centuries after they were conquered, but so did genghiz khan's granchildren after having conquered and massacred muslim kingdoms and destroying the baghdad kalifat. Would you say that the conquering Mongols were also forced to convert? Considering what Bhaaratis consider forced conversions, what with the recent hoopla about christian converts, it seems for you all conversion is forced. You still have not grasped the concept of freedom of choice in religion.
However, you still see that the persians have not lost their culture, and language. In fact, under muslim rule it has indeed blossomed. Until colonial times, Khurasaan and Iran were the tourist destinations of the world.
India has a glorious history and a glorious future. The middle ages of the loot and plunder by barbarians is a blot on our history and we are determined to remove the blot. By regaining the glories of the past.
That blot has given you everything from the blouses that women wear under their saris, to the chakra that is in your national flag. From the Taj mahal to the red fort. From monotheism to an egalitarian ideal. From the musical instruments brought by the tajiks and afghans, to the words of urdu that you plaguarise and name them hindi films/songs.
You will have to get rid of a lot of things to remove this blot. Maybe even change yourselves, as this blot has also given you the name Hind, India, which is an Arabic word for the subcontient.
Uniting Bhaarat is like cultivating on the ocean. Only two regimes have been successful in doing that in the past, That of Shahanshah Aurungzeb Alamgir, and the British Empire. As you know, both were "non brahmanic" regimes, and even these didn't last long. Who says you will succeed where they failed?
I repeat myself again, Bhaarat is not meant to be one country. It has since time immemorial been a whole contient of seperate countries. Don't try to swim upstream and leave this failed experiment to the side, before it consumes you and it is too late.
Dig Vijaya
