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IS FREE AND FAIR ELECTION POSSIBLE IN OUR LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

I really wonder how senseless can people be. A layman like me who's not even a Pakistani, can tell who runs your country. It's really strange you people go ga ga about corruptions & inefficiency of politicians.

It's really naive people don't have guts to talk about who actually is behind all these. 70 years has past & still people don't debate to fix the root of the problem. Most people know where the problem lies, but are contempt at throwing abuses & names for politician. The other day I was really upset somebody was using very cheap words for Nawaz's daughter. It's sad, the country nor the youth is willing to fix the root. People show all their valor & courage how they will crush India, but can't show the same courage to voice the establishment where the problem is & fix it.

It's a chalta hai life in Pakistan. You accept what ever injustice done to you & the country. The establishment cooks some story for everything, mostly feeding India hatred to deviate the focus from the problem & people are happy to buy it.

Again people are closing their eyes to the actual problem & wasting time talking on free & fare election. Will there be a free & fare election ever in Pakistan as long as the Military has the power. Every corruption done by Nawaz & all the previous leaders it is the establishment behind.

I would say compared to the money swindled by the establishment, the politicians just get peanuts. And they are forced to do it even if they don't wish to. And It's a pity for these peanuts, they pay the price of taking the wrath, abuses & curses of the whole country. It's really really sad. You can tell from the face & body language of Nawaz how much a helpless slave he's. Even he can't give his own opinion anywhere - it will be the establishment's lines he has to parrot. How regretful & disgraceful is his position. Neither can he get out nor have power to stop or change things.

Just a shame people don't wake up or have guts to point the finger at the real culprits. It's like crying & yelling the small fish in aquarium is creating havoc & wrecking the country & the poor whales out there are innocent & harmless when they are fast swallowing & wiping out the country & people blindly glorify & worship its Military leaders as messiah's.

Sorry, I have no interest in all the rhetoric which will follow. But ask your heart, if I am right. If you have a prosperous country good for you, if not May your God save you. God Bless

Man this is HARD Hitting !!!

But take it from me that it won't matter how hard you hit.

Pakistanis have learned to live with their "Establishment" just like North Koreans live with KIM JONG
 
The solution of the problem is decentralized form of govt

Name the wealthiest Pakistani family?
Hint:The first letter is S


For the past 8 years we had an elected govt dont twist facts here

That can only happen if you solve the Kashmir dispute if you cant do that we cant have a lovey dovery relationship and things will stay as they are

We spend less on our army than you do as percentage of gdp

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about

Things are a lot more complicated than that love :D

Yes its bad stop your army from doing that last i remember they were let off the hook for mass rapes in Kashmir

You have to exist to be an Asian giant

So can i what difference would it make?
Our policy will remain as it is we will develop our country both economically and militarily as it is all over the world our policy towards India and Afghanistan will not change

Peace is possible after resolution of Kashmir issue without solving it game of deadly ping-pong will continue

I have told many times before, how the geo-politics is. Let me repeat it for you again.

The world views Pakistan as a unstable terrorist state, which has nuclear weapons. And I already have mentioned what's coming, quite a few times & it's going to happen pretty soon. Unfortunately for Pakistan, whatever choices you have made has been gravely wrong & you always played a dependent ally. You have never adjusted to the Geo-political developments. You always got involved in un-wanted adventures. Be it Israel war, Afghan war, BD genocide, Gulf wars, wars with India, exporting terror, Illegal nuclear material sales, etc.

You never worked to build your country or to stand on your feet. Your Military & politicians got used to getting money from US, Gulf, Saudis & now China. Your relation with China would not have been a major issue, but your biggest mistake in today's state of affairs is giving route to China for CPEC not understanding the seriousness of the world's reservations with China.

Every mistake of yours has worked in our favor. We kept low & quiet till we built our economy & the tides to turn. You were given a chance to make the LOC the International border, but your obsession & your over-ambitious hatred & greed to annex Kashmir trying different means, has ruined your country. In today's scenario you cannot do anything to get Kashmir, when nobody is with you, not even Muslim countries. SCS is already in mess. So Kashmir & Baluchistan has become strategically important for the west, to stop China gain access to try similar tactics to take over of the world. Kashmir resolution will be after the take over of AK & GB by India. It's not what I wish or dreaming. It's the present Gov.t's & the world's political intent what's being planned out.

India has already emerged as a regional power, that's reason we are in G20, BRICS, etc. And you can see all major country leaders visiting India & inviting our PM & leaders to their country. Doklam was just a statement to the whole world, India is a world power & even mighty China cannot push us around. Pakistan has no say in international politics, not even in the Muslim world.

North Korea will be neutralized by 2018 max 2019. The next in line would be Pakistan. Weaker countries like N Korea & Pakistan has no right to hold nuclear weapons - is the west's perspective & narrative not mine. So the world powers will first force you to dismantle your Nuclear weapons & all your offensive programs. India will be allowed to re-capture the Azad Kashmir & GB, which will cut of the CPEC free entry of China.

This will be done so India has control over all Chinese activities with the world. Malacca Strait is already under Indian control. Even if China grows 10 times bigger than now, it will still be vulnerable with these strategic disadvantages. From 2019 most of our new Military procurement will start arriving, be it Rafaels, Howitzers, Brahmos, Submarines, Additional Aircraft Carrier, Drones, Anti Ballistic Missiles, Attack Helicopters, etc, etc. Another 2 years for training & mastering these toys. By 2021-22 everything I said should start unfolding. It may be Indian attack or a joint attack to dismantle nuclear weapons & take over of Kashmir, probably Sindh too. Punjab will become a landlocked state which over time will have no choice but to join India. Only thing which can stop or delay this would be a defeat of Narendra Modi in 2019.

It's my analysis, I confidently feel I will be right. Wait for it. All my posts is only to remind you what's coming. I am a practical person, so before you bring up your emotional cry of Allah here like always let me say. If you think Allah will save you, no problem. But do remember Allah has done nothing to Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Xinjiang. Most of the Islamic countries are in violence & misery. So do you think he will help Pakistan or Kashmir. China, Saudi or Muslim countries cannot save you, because India has much greater trade with them. If India stops buying oil from Saudi, it will head to collapse. We can conveniently shift our purchases to Iran or Russia.

So if you want Wake up, you have little time left, make peace with India, only India can save you. If you want to find contentment in your usual narratives go ahead & take pleasure, but what I have written will eventually become reality. Good luck
 
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The world views Pakistan as a unstable terrorist state, which has nuclear weapons. And I already have mentioned what's coming, quite a few times

What is coming our Afghan PROBLEM is close to resolution even US is giving up,our economy is stabilizing itself,terrorism is down our only ISSUE are you guys
North Korea will be neutralized by 2018 max 2019. The next in line would be Pakistan. Weaker countries like N Korea & Pakistan has no right to hold nuclear weapons - is the west's perspective & narrative not mine. So the world powers will first force you to dismantle your Nuclear weapons & all your offensive programs. India will be allowed to re-capture the Azad Kashmir & GB, which will cut of the CPEC free entry of China.

This will be done so India has control over all Chinese activities with the world. Malacca Strait is already under Indian control. Even if China grows 10 times bigger than now, it will still be vulnerable with these strategic disadvantages. From 2019 most of our new Military procurement will start arriving, be it Rafaels, Howitzers, Brahmos, Submarines, Additional Aircraft Carrier, Drones, Anti Ballistic Missiles, etc, etc. Another 2 years for training & mastering these toys. By 2021-22 everything I said should start unfolding. It may be Indian attack or a joint attack to dismantle nuclear weapons & take over of Kashmir, probably Sindh too. Punjab will become a landlocked state which over time will have no choice but to join India. Only thing which can stop or delay this would be a defeat of Narendra Modi in 2019.

It's my analysis, I confidently feel I will be right. Wait for it. All my posts is only to remind you what's coming. I am a practical person, so before you bring up another thing, I kindly suggest don't bring your emotional cry of Allah here like always. If you think Allah will save you, no problem. But do remember Allah has done nothing to Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Xinjiang. Most of the Islamic countries are in violence & misery. So do you think he will help Pakistan or Kashmir. China, Saudi or Muslim countries cannot save you, because India has much greater trade with them. If India stops buying oil from Saudi, it will head to collapse. We can conveniently shift our purchases to Iran or Russia.
Wait is this a joke?
You just cant make this shit up :D
@Windjammer @DESERT FIGHTER @Areesh

So if you want Wake up, you have little time left, make peace with India, only India can save you. If you want to find contentment in your usual narratives go ahead & take pleasure, but what I have written will eventually become reality. Good luck
We will take our chances ;)
 
In up coming elections we have choice between financially corrupt or sexually corrupt....

Chose your poison....
 

Yeah. How dare he forget the others.

The complete corrupt.
The Indian jihadists
The terrorist sympathizers
The ultra terrorist sympathetizers

Wait is this a joke?
You just cant make this shit up :D
@Windjammer @DESERT FIGHTER @Areesh

Joke of a poster posting rubbish arnab would be proud of.

Unrealistic absolute rubbish. So now our destruction date has left 2012 and gone to 2021.

The thing is that these call center morons post as if they are part of the foreign policy of world's powers but in reality they are nothing. Social media has given every kami kameen a platform to voice his chai stall opinion.
 
I have told many times before, how the geo-politics is. Let me repeat it for you again.

The world views Pakistan as a unstable terrorist state, which has nuclear weapons. And I already have mentioned what's coming, quite a few times & it's going to happen pretty soon. Unfortunately for Pakistan, whatever choices you have made has been gravely wrong & you always played a dependent ally. You have never adjusted to the Geo-political developments. You always got involved in un-wanted adventures. Be it Israel war, Afghan war, BD genocide, Gulf wars, wars with India, exporting terror, Illegal nuclear material sales, etc.

You never worked to build your country or to stand on your feet. Your Military & politicians got used to getting money from US, Gulf, Saudis & now China. Your relation with China would not have been a major issue, but your biggest mistake in today's state of affairs is giving route to China for CPEC not understanding the seriousness of the world's reservations with China.

Every mistake of yours has worked in our favor. We kept low & quiet till we built our economy & the tides to turn. You were given a chance to make the LOC the International border, but your obsession & your over-ambitious hatred & greed to annex Kashmir trying different means, has ruined your country. In today's scenario you cannot do anything to get Kashmir, when nobody is with you, not even Muslim countries. SCS is already in mess. So Kashmir & Baluchistan has become strategically important for the west, to stop China gain access to try similar tactics to take over of the world. Kashmir resolution will be after the take over of AK & GB by India. It's not what I wish or dreaming. It's the present Gov.t's & the world's political intent what's being planned out.

India has already emerged as a regional power, that's reason we are in G20, BRICS, etc. And you can see all major country leaders visiting India & inviting our PM & leaders to their country. Doklam was just a statement to the whole world, India is a world power & even mighty China cannot push us around. Pakistan has no say in international politics, not even in the Muslim world.

North Korea will be neutralized by 2018 max 2019. The next in line would be Pakistan. Weaker countries like N Korea & Pakistan has no right to hold nuclear weapons - is the west's perspective & narrative not mine. So the world powers will first force you to dismantle your Nuclear weapons & all your offensive programs. India will be allowed to re-capture the Azad Kashmir & GB, which will cut of the CPEC free entry of China.

This will be done so India has control over all Chinese activities with the world. Malacca Strait is already under Indian control. Even if China grows 10 times bigger than now, it will still be vulnerable with these strategic disadvantages. From 2019 most of our new Military procurement will start arriving, be it Rafaels, Howitzers, Brahmos, Submarines, Additional Aircraft Carrier, Drones, Anti Ballistic Missiles, Attack Helicopters, etc, etc. Another 2 years for training & mastering these toys. By 2021-22 everything I said should start unfolding. It may be Indian attack or a joint attack to dismantle nuclear weapons & take over of Kashmir, probably Sindh too. Punjab will become a landlocked state which over time will have no choice but to join India. Only thing which can stop or delay this would be a defeat of Narendra Modi in 2019.

It's my analysis, I confidently feel I will be right. Wait for it. All my posts is only to remind you what's coming. I am a practical person, so before you bring up your emotional cry of Allah here like always let me say. If you think Allah will save you, no problem. But do remember Allah has done nothing to Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Xinjiang. Most of the Islamic countries are in violence & misery. So do you think he will help Pakistan or Kashmir. China, Saudi or Muslim countries cannot save you, because India has much greater trade with them. If India stops buying oil from Saudi, it will head to collapse. We can conveniently shift our purchases to Iran or Russia.

So if you want Wake up, you have little time left, make peace with India, only India can save you. If you want to find contentment in your usual narratives go ahead & take pleasure, but what I have written will eventually become reality. Good luck



Is this part of bigger Ghar Wapsi plan?

How many indians think like you?
 
A personal opinion i guess, @Mrc

@Mrc kindly refrain from such messages! You can share your views and express your opinion in much more suitable words and in a much more civilized way. It wont hurt anyone.

BTW, i will choose the someone with what you called "sexually corrupt" over someone financially corrupt EVERY DAY of the week. It is not even fair competition to be honest. While his moral values and personal exploits are just that, PERSONAL, the nation is far worst effected by someone destroying the institutions, siding with our enemy, purposely disgracing our army and other institutions, looting the nation and FOOLING the masses for DECADES! Zati burai vs Ijtamai masharati burai you know!
 









IS FREE AND FAIR ELECTION POSSIBLE IN PAKISTAN AND THE *LAW 62&63***IMPLEMENTE ON POLITICIAN
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ANSWER TILL PANAMA AND SWISS MONEY MAFIA EXIST IN PAKISTAN NO THING IMPLEMENTED???????

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Hajishabibbaig wrote:With kind attention

MOHTRAM O MUKKARAM GENERAL QAMAR JAVED BAJWA ****SIPE SAALAR PAK AFWAJE PAKISTAN*****. AS SLAMO ALEKUM
Our EX ARMY CHIEF GIVE AN kind statement published in media FREE AND FARE ELECTION YOUR DREAM BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE in the presence of such most corrupt rulers and a FAKE/BOGUS 60% VOTE CAST BY PUBLIC OF PAKISTAN ALSO FAKE PARLIAMENT WHO NEVER EXCEPTED RESULT.AFTER ELECTION THEY DELIBERATELY IGNORE 21 POOR PUBLIC AND DON,T SOLVE ONE PERCENT PROBLEM WHO ARE FACING
ACUTE ,MEGA CORRUPTION OF RULERS,WORST ECONOMICAL,CRISES FOOD WATER,NO DRINKING WATER NO CARE OF HEALTH,NO LIVING FACILITIES
WORST #GDP#RATE DISASTER OF ALL BIG ORGANIZATIONS,INCREASING OF TERRORISM THROUGH OUT PAKISTAN,TARGET KILLING AND BHATTA IN KARACHI,UN HOLY CONSPIRACIES OF DIS HONEST RULERS,ALSO EXPOSE BY SUPREME COURT
further as a faith full Pakistani I invite your kind attention to wards such mega crime and law and order with several media proofs and offer to your honor my faith full suggestions in
my NINE POINT(ATTACHED) in your record but we the faith full FOLLOWER,LOVER OF PAKISTAN ARMY AND LONG LIVE PAKISTAN.

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Here I would like to say we are the BILLIONS public paying huge taxes for our PAK ARMY FOR THE SECURITY MAJORS .
MOHTRAM ABDUL SATTAR EDHE.SEVERAL POL ITICAL LEADERS BILLION OF KARACHI CITIZENS appeal to your honor provide proper
SECURITY from such terrorist whom also EXPOSE BY SUPREME COURT but all is none.
MOHTRAM GENERAL sahab if we PRAY TO ALMIGHTY ALLAH FOR SAME PROBLEMS AND ACUTE PAIN FULL GRIEVANCES TO WARDS ALMIGHTY ALLAH HE WILL EXCEPT OUR KIND PRAY,S *INSHAALLAH.

HAJI SHABIB BAIG

-Subject: ALLAH ANSWERS....

آلسلام علئکم و رحمت اللہ و پرکات آلسلام علئکم و رحمت اللہ و پرکاتہ
آ
MOHTRAM O MUKKARAM GENERAL QAMAR JAVED BAJWA SIPE SAALAR AFWAJE PAKISTAN MUST READ ALLAH ANSWER


***ALLAH JALLE SHANHU ANSWER *****


A young man had been to Wednesday Night Class of Quranic Studies.
The Moallem had shared about listening to Allah and obeying Allah through intuition. The young man couldn't help but wonder, 'Does Allah still speak to people through intuition?' After Lessons, he went out with some friends for coffee and pie and they discussed the message. Several different ones talked about how Allah had led them in different ways and that at the end you'll know it was Allah(SWT) Who has directed you. It was about ten o'clock when the young man started driving home. Sitting in his car, he just began to pray, 'Allah...If you still speak to people, speak to me. I will listen. I will do my best to obey.' As he drove down the main street of his town, he had the strangest thought to stop and buy a gallon of milk. He shook his head and said out loud, 'Allah is that you?' He didn't get a reply and started on toward home. But again, the thought, buy a gallon of milk came into his head. 'Okay, Allah, in case that is you, I will buy the milk.' It didn't seem like too hard a test of obedience. He could always use the milk. He stopped and purchased the gallon of milk and started off toward home. he passed Seventh Street , he again felt the urge, 'Turn Down that street.'
This is crazy he thought, and drove on past the intersection. Again, he felt that he should turn down Seventh Street .. At the next intersection, he turned back and headed down Seventh. Half jokingly, he said out loud, 'Okay, Allah, I will.' He drove several blocks, when suddenly, he felt like he should stop. He pulled over to the curb and looked around. He was in a semi-commercial area of town. It wasn't the best but it wasn't the worst of neighborhoods either. The businesses were closed and most of the houses looked dark like the people were already in bed. Again, he sensed something, 'Go and give the milk to the people in the house across the street.' The young man looked at the house. It was dark and it looked like the people were either gone or they were already asleep. He started to open the door and then sat back in the car seat. 'Allah, this is insane. Those people are asleep and if I wake them up, they are going to be mad and I will look stupid.' Again, he felt like he should go and give the milk. Finally, he opened the door, 'Okay Allah(SWT), if this is you, I will go to the door and I will give them the milk. If you want me to look like a crazy person, okay. I want to be obedient. I guess that will count for something, but if they don't answer right away, I am out of here.' He walked across the street and rang the bell. He could hear some noise inside. A man's voice yelled out, 'Who is it? What do you want?' Then the door opened before the young man could get away. The man was standing there in his jeans and T-shirt. He looked like he just got out of bed. He had a strange look on his face and he didn't seem too happy to have some stranger standing on his doorstep. 'What is it?' The young man thrust out the gallon of milk, 'Here, I brought this to you.'

The man took the milk and rushed down a hallway.
Then from down the hall came a woman carrying the milk toward the kitchen.
The man was following her holding a baby. The baby was crying. The man had tears streaming down his face.

The man began speaking and half crying, 'We were just praying. We had some big bills this month and we ran out of money. We didn't have any milk for our baby. I was just praying and asking Allah(SWT) to show me how to get

some milk.'
His wife in the kitchen yelled out, 'I ask him to send an Angel with some.
Are you an Angel?'

The young man reached into his wallet and pulled out all the money he had on him and put in the man's hand. He turned and walked back toward his car and the tears were streaming down his face.
He knew that Allah (SWT) still answers prayers.

NOW HERE'S A REQUEST ....

If you believe that Allah (SWT) answers prayers, send this to everyone you care about!!!!!!
If you do not send nothing will happen to you, but if you send you might just be sending someone hope and belief that Allah (SWT) hears our prayers and give hope to those who may have lost faith.
Sometimes it's the simplest things that Allah (SWT) asks us to do, that enable us to understand His words clearer and better than ever.....
WITH KIND AND FAITH FULL REGARD





Heaven on Earth
Pakistan is one of the biggest blessings of Allah for any Pakistani. Whatever we have today it’s all because of Pakistan, otherwise, we would have nothing. Please be sincere to Pakistan.
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As per my typical Indian Baniya Soch: We all know who is running your country. Then why spend millions on corrupt voting system itself. Just Like China, create a Military choosen Polit Bureau and electing PM and other ministers is Half day Job.

Either way if uneducated/Jahils allowed to vote. They choose Caste-Based, locality based parchi chaap leaders.

Just my 2 cents.
 
BTW, i will choose the someone with what you called "sexually corrupt" over someone financially corrupt EVERY DAY of the wee


And see what Islam says about having an verified court proven illicit child.... I bet it's not to make that person head of state
 
And see what Islam says about having an verified court proven illicit child.... I bet it's not to make that person head of state
I wont even argue about that "verified court proven" thing. THat aside, i am just sharing my choice or preference among the two. One, a crime at an individual/personal level. Two, the crime at national level. But yes, this is only if you have to choose one from these two. Ideally, none of these two should qualify.
 
I wont even argue about that "verified court proven" thing. THat aside, i am just sharing my choice or preference among the two. One, a crime at an individual/personal level. Two, the crime at national level. But yes, this is only if you have to choose one from these two. Ideally, none of these two should qualify.


Hence my original post was

In up coming elections we have choice between financially corrupt or sexually corrupt....

Chose your poison....

I m not saying khan is a bad leader though ... he might turn out to be great
 
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