Is FATA a Colony of Pakistan?

[Spring Onion]

Those Lar Afghans joined us in our war against Russians out of ethnic sentiments..........always remember that blood is thicker than water.......lar o bar yo afghan.

They were good Pashtuns and good muslims, None of them were punjabified,........their intentions were good, but your army was upto no good.

It was NEVER OUT OF ETHNIC sentiments. We joined you for being Muslims and for your information NOT only Pakistani Pukhtuns but Pakistani NON-Pukhtuns also fought your war for you back then and even NOW.

It was NOT a war for Afghan Pukhtuns BUT for Afghan Muslims. It was NOT an ETHNIC war. and you also know it well.

and last but NOT The least we Pakistani Pukhtuns dont buy any shyt of lar bar. we are just simple Pakistanis.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Those Lar Afghans joined us in our war against Russians out of ethnic sentiments..........always remember that blood is thicker than water.......lar o bar yo afghan.

They were good Pashtuns and good muslims, None of them were punjabified,........their intentions were good, but your army was upto no good.

One has to be blind to not see a simple fact.

--- Afghanistani Pashtuns (who can afford to) bring their women and children to Pakistan for safe keeping


The are smart and educated. They know that Pakistani-Punjabis and Pakistani-Pashtuns will not disrespect these refugee women and the kids will be safe.


Can you see even in the next 5 years, that Pakistani Pashutns are leaving their women and children in Afghanistan for "safe keeping".


If the answer is yes,

then your job is done. you don't have to lift your finger and the whole Pakistan is yours (and not just one little piece).


Why so much yelling and accusations?

When you know that a Pashtun well settled in Peshawar or Mansehra will never trust a Kabuli with 50 rupees let alone his wife and kids.

peace

 

[Sugarcane]

Well, sir, I would sincerely advice you to read up some history as there were no Hindi Muslims ever; see Hindi is a language and was not adopted by the majority of the Muslims who were fluent in Persian and then Urdu along with their native tongues. If you meant Hindu Muslims then that too is faulty as Hinduism is a religion and one cannot have two faiths simultaneously. The term I believe you wanted to state was Hindusitani Muslim. I would advise you to learn these subtle differences as it would rouse suspicion amongst your so-called Pakhtun brethren whom you wish to liberate. They love their history and heritage.

Secondly, the 'unnatural' Durand line was cordoned by the government of the day of Afghanistan; whether it was monarchy or not is of no concern to Pakistan which is the inherited State of the British India. Should Pakistan deal afresh with every government that rouses up in Afghanistan?

Thirdly, the region of KhyberPakhtunKha, despite our not so perfect democracy, has never heavily voted for the parties that have been pro-Pakhtunistan that shows how dearly they hold your Pakhtunistan such as PPP-S. Furthermore, the Pakhtuns have actively served in the Pakistani military, does that not hint to their loyalties? Why would they happily embrace martyrdom for a nation they do not own?

Fourthly, ask the Pakhtuns of Pakistan no matter how unhappy they are of the state of affairs here they would never want to join Afghanistan nor seek independence. I am of course refering to the contemporary times. Why do not the Afghanis concentrate on Afghanistan instead? I am sure there is a lot to do in your country.

You are debating with a delusional afghani, who despite being largest ethnicity have no share in power in their own country and talks about Pakistani Pashtuns

We consider them backstabbers always so i dont see any issue if he backstab. they are supposed to backstab their own community as well.

We Being Pakistani Pukhtuns do NOT give them right to talk about us.

They failed to consolidate or for that matter they failed to protect their own Pushtuns in North which is dominated by farsiwans and they are dreaming of grabbing our land. well hell NO they aint going to get anything

LOL - In that case new Durand line will be on banks of ammu darya

 

[FaujHistorian]

If Germans can demolish Berlin wall, we pashtuns can also do it.......inshallah

Tomorrow you will come and say if Americans can land on the moon, then Afghanistanis can too.

Well Duh!

Did you just finish your high school? or What? Why so much ignorance and arrogance?

On a serious note,

West Germany paid billions upon billions of dollars to East Germans.

West German economy went down for almost 10 years.


How on earth you are planning to spend billions of dollars on Pakistani Pashutns, when Afghanistan itself is on life-support. How?



I know you are literate. But try to be educated before comparing bombed out Afghanistani mice to German lions.


Do your comparison right. Will ya?

 

[Last Hope]

If Germans can demolish Berlin wall, we pashtuns can also do it.......inshallah

I like your confidence.

Bis'millah.

 

[Spring Onion]

Back-stabbers in what sense?

We dont have aspiration to grab or occupy your lands , the lands of lar Pakhtunkhwa belong to the tribes living there......the unification of pashtuns would be like germans

)) how about giving our land that is bar pukhtunkhwa to us. we will love to merg the greater pukhtunkhwa into state union of Pakistan.

and oh backstabber in a sense that Afghanistanis are said to be NOT loyal to even their own people.

If Germans can demolish Berlin wall, we pashtuns can also do it.......inshallah

ok come after elections. we are too busy in political activities in our land FATA

 

[RangerPK]

Relationships between Afghans and Hindi muslims (now Pakistanis) were very good before 1947, any kind of bitterness that exists nowadays is due to un-natural durand line, the line drawn by colonial farangis, affirmed by monarchs......Lar Pakhtunkhwa rightfully belong to us, we have waited for 120 years and we would wait for 120 years more if we have to.....No boundary is ever permanent, pashtun unity is inevitable.....

Are you a Pushtoon?

It is not an exaggerated question at all if asked by a person who hails from and lives in FATA.
It is an adequate term to describe the plight and the series of agonies, the people of FATA are facing, for the last 66 years. Sword is not used in modern warfare just because it does not fulfill the requirements of present day warfare.
The legal and administrative systems applicable in a population of 5 millions are as anachronistic as a sword in modern warfare. FCR, a legal and administrative system is one such example that set apart FATA from the rest of the country.
A Political Agent, head of a tribal region exercise extensive executive and judicial powers that at certain circumstances cannot be revised even by a regular court of law, which is at all costs the negation of the basic human rights.
An experimental laboratory animal is entitled for certain basic rights in the world of global village of 20th millennium but the tribal men, the devoted guardian of Pakistan’s 2500 miles Durand Line are deprived of the same basic human rights.
The per capita public development expenditure is shockingly low, one third of the national average. Social development indicators are worse from the day zero. The overall literacy rate is 17.42% compared to 56% nationally.
FATA has a per doctor rate of 1:6,762 compared to the national 1:1,359. Most locals depend on agriculture since there is no industrial development.
The Peshawar High Court Chief Justice Remarks that tribal areas were being treated like the British colonies are historic and self-explanatory forever.
We demand of government that the FATA forum convention three recommendations, calling for extending the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court of Pakistan and Peshawar High Court to FATA, separating judiciary and executive in the tribal areas and enforcing the fundamental rights provided by the Constitution of 1973 be extended to bleeding FATA without any query and further delay.
Dr Mukhtar Ali
Kurram Agency

Is FATA a Colony of Pakistan?

I just wish there was peace in FATA what do you think we need to do to have peace in FATA?

 

[RangerPK]

The disorder and instability in Afghanistan is due to durand line issue, half of our territory and population is occupied by Pakistan......

How can Durand line be a root cause of all the problems in Afghanistan? How could Durand line lead to about 25 + countries occupying Afghanistan?

 

[Sugarcane]

How can Durand line be a root cause of all the problems in Afghanistan? How could Durand line lead to about 25 + countries occupying Afghanistan?

Because they can't defend themselves and needs Pakistani Pashtuns to save them.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Relationships between Afghans and Hindi muslims (now Pakistanis) were very good before 1947, any kind of bitterness that exists nowadays is due to un-natural durand line, the line drawn by colonial farangis, affirmed by monarchs......Lar Pakhtunkhwa rightfully belong to us, we have waited for 120 years and we would wait for 120 years more if we have to.....No boundary is ever permanent, pashtun unity is inevitable.....

it'll be impossible because

a.) militarily you can't grab land from land that belongs to us

b.) the PEOPLE on the ground (the people who matter, the people we're talking about) have absolutely no intention of breaking away from Pakistan to join Afghanistan.

how will it benefit them? They have business interests all of Pakistan; by now they've had family move and integrate into rest of country (either for work or for other reasons). Yes maybe in 1947 there couldve been a mass Afghan uprising and they'd try assasinating Jinnah Sahib or trying to create ETHNIC HYSTERIA AND RACISM (which you afghans have used on yourselves against eachother too)

so please for the sake of my knowledge - let me know WHAT CAN YOU DO? Your country is so weak and 99% of your economy relies on CIA/USA/Iranian aid. Find me some Afghans who dont have family in Pakistan, studying in univiersities which your country could hardly provide (and in some cases we provide scholarships to Afghans, we even build hospitals roads and higher learning institutions in Afghanistan.


what do we get in return from you back-stabbbers? Nothing but ingratitude and hostility. This is the biggest treachery of the 21st century. Become MEN rather than becoming warlords, maybe you'll get somewhere.

Picking a fight with Pakistan? It will spell a huge disaster for you.



You want part of our territory? Come FIGHT US like men. You tried to take Bajaur in 1960s, we piled you people up and used them as sandbags sent them running away or sent them to Creator.

if you have the heart for such needless violence (amongst Muslims too) then i suggest you send more of your "soldiers" to come take the land they claim is theres. Your choice!!!


me personally, i believe if you afghans have ANY sense left in you - you wont do that

 

[Arya Desa]

India is a friend of Afghanastan since it was called Gandhara

 

[Vinod2070]

Zarrgaya we have no intention of grabbing or occupying your lands, those lands belong to the tribes living there. Dont be fooled by baseless propaganda that is fed to you in Pakistan.


Ashna I am aware of this fact. Your education system, state policies and media brainwash and urdufy pashtuns, russians did the same with central asians...teach them history of pashtuns and their langauge and literature, their poetry...dont repress their Qaomi identity and pride, you would see different results. Even then if they want to stay with punjabis, then we would respect their wishes.....but we would never close our doors on lar afghans neither they would close their doors on us.

Now you are being silly zarrgaya. Why we should have assassinated jinnah?...ethnic hysteria and racism? Lol...you are truely misguided and brainwashed...yes our rulers pushed forward pakhtunistan cause, and succeeded in winning the support of two of renowned figures of your FATA, ajab khan Afridi and faqir of IPI. Bannu declaration was announced. But your governament successfully suppressed it.....


Still your FATA is the most backward and underdeveloped region of Pakistan. The war and destruction in our country was negative point for you people but your FATA is also now a warzone. People like you used to mock us as refugees, but most of the population of FATA has also become internal refugees in the country.


We have never back-stabbed lar Afghans. Most of the Afghan refugees reside in Pakhtun areas of pakistan, they dont have problems with us...have you ever heard of riots between local pashtuns and refugees?...on the other hand they kill you on daily basis in karachi, there lar and bar afghans are united against indian mohajirs.


We were never intimidated by superpowers, pakistan is just a third world country struggling with economy and full of insurgences.....




We dont need to fight, Pakistan would disintegrate like yoguslavia inshallah.....lar and bar afghans spilling each other blood? Thats the last thing one should wish...

It was a small incursion, daud khan's stupidity. You dont infilterate other tribe's territory with lashkar if you are not invited... bajauris have great interactions with tribes on the other side of durand and they frequently intermarry with each other. During bajaur operation of your army, large number of bajauris preferred to migrate to Afghanistan.


It is your Pakistan , your army which has infilterated into our territory and are provoking us by building check posts and gates....we have the right to defend ourselves and respond to paaki aggression.

Well, being a Turi Shia, he may be naturally more apprehensive.

Now, how many of the Lar Afghans would be supportive of integrating with Afghanistan? Any guesses?