Is Democracy The Way For Us?

[Super Falcon]

Not realy untill these MNA and MPA listen the people do what people ask from where he elected rather than from party heads

 

[Sugarcane]

You need democracy to become educated. A dictatorship creates inequality from top down. Democracy is the best method, 4th cycle of elections you will see real change. Right now is cleansing period.

India is running this cycle since decades, democracy in third world countries is mob rule.

 

[Verve]

Presidential Democracy is for Pakistan, not the current version.

 

[Menace2Society]

India is running this cycle since decades, democracy in third world countries is mob rule.

Managing corruption is key.

India has a 1% which controls all power and money whilst the rest are slum dwellers living in the shadow of their overlords.

Pakistan can be different if roots out corruption early in its democratic evolution. Here's hoping Imran delivers. He has maximum 10 years to set up Pakistan for the long term. Crucial crucial phase for you guy, don't **** it up.

 

[niaz]

Found this rather interesting article regarding how Plato was not a supporter of democracy:

https://classicalwisdom.com/plato-and-the-disaster-of-democracy/

Democracy, after all, is mob-rule. In a country like ours, where sentiments and emotions hold more sway than logic and reason, what should be done? How shall democracy evolve?

An interesting point he makes is that you wouldn't take an ailing person to a motor mechanic for treatment, so to speak. Then how can the people, who have no knowledge whatever regarding the points or reasons based on which government is to be elected, be given such supreme responsibility? Should we, therefore, introduce such study into our curriculum?

What say you?

I have read Plato’s Republic; in fact, I have the book in my personal collection. My interpretation is a bit different from the one explained in the article.

Plato analyses 5 types of governments; Aristocracy, Timocracy, Oligarchy, Democracy &Tyranny. We can’t understand Republic unless we know what the Athens society was like in his time.

Top of the ladder consisted of the free male citizens which comprised of three groups, aristocrats (aristoi), the middle class (artisans, tradesman & soldiers) and the poorer farmers (periokoi).

Next were semi-free labourers, and then came women - belonging to all of the above male groups but without citizen rights. Children were all those who were below 18 years old.

Then came the slaves the ‘douloi’

Athens had a very large slave population; roughly about one-third of all residents of Athens were slaves. They worked not only as domestic servants but as factory workers, shopkeepers, mineworkers, farm workers and as ship's crewmembers.

There were many different ways in which a person could have become a slave in ancient Greece. They might have been born into slavery as the child of a slave. Most of the slaves were acquired as prisoners of war /war booty. Another possible way in which one might have become a slave was if a family needed money, they might sell one of the children into slavery. Or they may have been kidnapped from other regions and sold for profit.

In Plato’s time, the Athenian economy was heavily dependent upon slave labour. Therefore Plato's preference for the Aristocracy should be seen in the light that if everyone was given equal rights; who will do the work done by slaves & semi-free labourers if they decided to stop work?

According to Plato, person to be able to give good advice on the highest affairs of state, must have the expertise in justice and self-knowledge. In Plato’s opinion, the person who rushes into politics without having found self-knowledge falls into error and makes himself and everyone else miserable. He who is not wise cannot be happy, and it is better for such a person to be commanded by a superior in wisdom.

Plato’s aristocrat is not the traditional blood-sucking member of the landed gentry. His aristocrat is a philosopher, whose intellect & education makes him an honest and just ruler.

Society these days is quite different and IMO it is wrong to condemn Democracy in today’s world based upon what Plato observed 2,300 years ago.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

 

[YeBeWarned]

Shariat ya C-130 ...
@tps77 @Hell hound

 

[Tps43]

@Starlord C 130 aur app mera sath as a co pilot hahhahahahahahaha

 

[SALMAN F]

No

 

[Winchester]

The region in Punjan with highest literacy North Punjab voted for PTI clean sweep of PTI in Rawalpindi which has highest literacy rate in Punjab

https://twitter.com/x/status/1026326126480769025

PTI also won from high literacy districts such as Jhelum,Attock,Rawalpindi and Islamabad so you cant generalize on literacy rate
Plus look at the vote distribution and popular vote

https://twitter.com/x/status/1023078413303721985

https://twitter.com/x/status/1023452884107763713

What about urban centers in Central Punjab?

Noon won like 32 out of 40. In places like Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot where your basic literacy levels are really high.

The same places TLP won most of their votes. PTI swept South Punjab, the area with the least HDI in Punjab. Noon and TLP both rejected there.

Your graphs point to highly educated folks .... while mentioned basic literacy as a condition in the first post. I was telling you how the areas with the least literacy in Punjab rejected divisive politics of noon. Having the ability to read and count numbers doesn't mean you won't be khota. There is a reason for the term "parha Likha jahil".

 

[Zibago]

What about urban centers in Central Punjab?

Noon won like 32 out of 40. In places like Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot where your basic literacy levels are really high.

The same places TLP won most of their votes. PTI swept South Punjab, the area with the least HDI in Punjab. Noon and TLP both rejected there.

Your graphs point to highly educated folks .... while mentioned basic literacy as a condition in the first post. I was telling you how the areas with the least literacy in Punjab rejected divisive politics of noon. Having the ability to read and count numbers doesn't mean you won't be khota. There is a reason for the term "parha Likha jahil".

Central Punjab is an exemption of that ruke but even in central Punjab the vote of the educatex youth went mostly to pti you may have noticed the margin even in central punjab was very thing plus last 5 years central punjab was heavily rewarded by pmln
North Punjab, s swinging should tell you where the educated punjabi voted

 

[Winchester]

Central Punjab is an exemption of that ruke but even in central Punjab the vote of the educatex youth went mostly to pti you may have noticed the margin even in central punjab was very thing plus last 5 years central punjab was heavily rewarded by pmln
North Punjab, s swinging should tell you where the educated punjabi voted

North Punjab is a pakka Fauji area. That idiot thought insulting the army will win him votes.

 

[Zibago]

North Punjab is a pakka Fauji area. That idiot thought insulting the army will win him votes.

It also has a literacy rate in the 80,s that also played a major role even in the rigged 2013 elections pti lost by smaller margins here

 

[Hell hound]

Shariat ya C-130 ...
@tps77 @Hell hound

@Starlord C 130 aur app mera sath as a co pilot hahhahahahahahaha

 

[YeBeWarned]

yeh sath le ker mare ga