Is APJ Kalam a Muslim?

[mehboobkz]

How is reading a book a shirk

Get the meaning of shirk first.

 

[AR]

I dont if this poster is a Muslim or Not but he is an Indian. had been posting defending India tooth and nail so far.

Today he came up with this insane thread. His post makes NO sense at all.

...and we are proud to have such muslims jana ji...

his posts are sensible to us and are equally valuable...

 

[Spring Onion]

Its there: (Rafiq Zakaria, "The Struggle within Islam" Penguin Books,
1988, pp.302)



The guy is reading Gita every morning, thats unlike muslim.

So what is your problem if he read Gita? even i have read Hindu texts whats the issue with that ???


Above all why somebody's personal faith should be decided by you or me?

If there is any debate going on on a matter/topic and you can just mention the tilting of a person towards some side on the basis of religion then you have some excuse to do that BUT opening a thread just to tell whether someone follows something in my opinion is unjustified.

 

[mehboobkz]

Asaduddin Owaisi, 33, leader of the Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimeen and member of the Andhra Pradesh legislature, Hyderabad:

Muslims are surprised to hear that he starts his day by reciting from the Holy Gita. As Muslims, our day starts by offering the fajr (dawn) prayers. It is also strange that Kalam says he gets solace by playing the veena whereas, for Muslims, reading the Koran -- the word of Allah -- gives the greatest solace. At his first press conference after his nomination, Kalam recited verses from the Gita. He could have recited the Quranic verses in which a devout human being thanks Allah for bestowing knowledge and worldly positions on him.

 

[Spring Onion]

...and we are proud to have such muslims jana ji...

his posts are sensible to us and are equally valuable...

lolxxxx i have no issue with his senssssssssble posts lolzz


you can cherish his posts

 

[Capt.Popeye]

But he is doing a shirk - reading Gita every morning!

You mean that he is forbidden to read a book every day or every blue moon if he wishes to. Did he tell you why he reads that book or "Grimms fairytales" or "Rubaiyyat of Omar Khayyam" ?
If you are privy to that information, I will take your views a little more seriously.

 

[Nahraf]

I know many people in Pakistan who are Muslim by name only. They break many cardinal rules of Islam. The only difference with Dr Kalam is that they publicly profess Islam but privately live life like a scoundrel. We Pakistanis cannot pass judgment on Indian Muslims when many public people in our Islamic Republic cannot pass the same litmus test.

 

[mehboobkz]

Excerpt:
Dr Kalam feels much more at home with the Hindus. His Hindu
friends, with whom he has spent a good deal of his life, have
testified to the fact that he is far more attracted to Hinduism
than Islam; I find nothing wrong with it. But for God’s sake,
don’t describe him as a Muslim President and take credit for
having obliged the Muslims for giving them this great honour.

K. Rama Rao, former director of Defence Research and
Development Laboratories (DRDL) writes: “I have known him for
more than three decades, but find him the same, from the
simple and unassuming fellow who shared a room with me in 1954 to
the one who became my boss in the ’80s. He would stay up late at
night, eat vegetarian food and never show any signs of being a
Muslim. I have not seen him offering prayers during namaz nor
fast during Ramzan.”

 

[Spring Onion]

Asaduddin Owaisi, 33, leader of the Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimeen and member of the Andhra Pradesh legislature, Hyderabad:

In that case it means he is doing shirk so he is responsible for his own actions.

In that case i will repeat that so in Indian a Muslim can be given respect only if he/she compromise his faith.

 

[Avatar]

Who are you to judge another man, boy ? Regardless of anything else, Sir Abdul Kalam is a Muslim because that is what he wishes to be known as. If you have other theories keep them with yourself. In India it's the man that matters and not his religion.

Jinnah used to smoke, drink and did not keep a beard. What does that make him ?

 

[Spring Onion]

I know many people in Pakistan who are Muslim by name only. They break many cardinal rules of Islam. The only difference with Dr Kalam is that they publicly profess Islam but privately live life like a scoundrel. We Pakistanis cannot pass judgment on Indian Muslims when people in our Islamic Republic cannot pass the same litmus test.

Nahraf the poster is an Indian not Pakistan.

And read his following post which clarifies what he wanted to say.

Asaduddin Owaisi, 33, leader of the Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimeen and member of the Andhra Pradesh legislature, Hyderabad:

Quote:
Muslims are surprised to hear that he starts his day by reciting from the Holy Gita. As Muslims, our day starts by offering the fajr (dawn) prayers. It is also strange that Kalam says he gets solace by playing the veena whereas, for Muslims, reading the Koran -- the word of Allah -- gives the greatest solace. At his first press conference after his nomination, Kalam recited verses from the Gita. He could have recited the Quranic verses in which a devout human being thanks Allah for bestowing knowledge and worldly positions on him.

 

[nForce]

Its there: (Rafiq Zakaria, "The Struggle within Islam" Penguin Books,
1988, pp.302)

I was asking for source in reference to the second paragraph.I got it now.It was written by Rafiq Zakaria,and published in Asian Age on 19th June 2002.

The guy is reading Gita every morning, thats unlike muslim.

Whats wrong with reading a book.The Gita is truly enchanting.Have you ever gone through it???

 

[mehboobkz]

You mean that he is forbidden to read a book every day or every blue moon if he wishes to. Did he tell you why he reads that book or "Grimms fairytales" or "Rubaiyyat of Omar Khayyam" ?
If you are privy to that information, I will take your views a little more seriously.

Its in the newsprint, most Indian muslims know it, so does Dr Zakaria and Hydrabadi MP Asaduddin Owaisi who questions the same.

 

[notsuperstitious]

In that case it means he is doing shirk so he is responsible for his own actions.

In that case i will repeat that so in Indian a Muslim can be given respect only if he/she compromise his faith.

And I'll also repeat in Pakistan a Muslim can be given respect only if he/she is a bigot and terrorist supporter.



May not be relevant, but has to be said.

 

[sasuke]

I think Kalam is much more muslim than those who in the name of religion oppressing women and killing people.

Anyway... why this obsession about the extent of one being a follower of any religion. Religion is a personal choice. I'm taking up a course under his guidance and I can tell you personally... he way way better than those who preach rather than helping people.

He visits students across the country to encourage them to come up with projects to up lift the lives of common people. He's such a great man. If some bloody insecure person who has inferior complex comments on his religion, should we care? or Does he care?

All we can say for the writer of that book... to stop being insecure. Some people have better things to do.