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[Sineva]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1692207672362250726

 

[TheImmortal]

Correct. China’s economic entanglement with the West is key to China’s behavior. It is key to understand, however, they are taking steps to unentangle while preserving wealth. This will be a combination of foreign, monetary and fiscal steps. Very complex and very cautiously. While take awhile.

The US knows this and they’re throwing as many sabots in this strategy. Ie ‘sabot’aging it. The frolicking with Taiwan and the China Sea is one example. The last thing the US wants is transfer of wealth out of its domain.

Correct.

Right now US-China are engaging in “semi conductor” wars, as US tries to choke China from procuring the capability to build advanced semi conductors.

This culminated (ironically) in Chinese regulators vetoing a 5.4B dollar acquisition deal where by INTEL (USA) would purchase an israeli based semiconductor company. Since that company has major ties to Chinese market, INTEL was forced to scrap the deal and will pay $300M+ fine.

So Chinese de-coupling from the West is very complex as you said. Chinese economic numbers are worrisome (one of the few countries in the world fighting deflation) and a youth unemployment number that was so bad that they announced they would no longer announce it and try to change the methodology! Add that the yuan has now weakened too much against the dollar, it remains to be see if PRC Central Bank sells off US treasuries to balance this out.

Least in all this is any Iranian arms deal. For China, Iran is a thorn in the west. A card to play when moving pawns on the geopolitical chess board. I will not pretend to over inflate the importance of my motherland in Chinese calculus and decision making. We did not make ourselves valuable enough under the “neither East nor west strategy” post revolution nor the “west at all costs” strategy of the liberals of last 20 years.

 

[strateger]

If Iran could reliably copy an engine easily, it would have done the F-14 engine after 40 years of experience overhauling and maintaining. That engine could power various types of aircraft/drones.

It is extremely difficult to copy a jet engine without assistance from the manufacturer.

So far we have been able to OWJ and J-700.

It is possible with time and with enough resources and manpower devoted to the project. But I am unsure if Iran’s government is willing to put that much importance on this area of the armed forces.

True. Which is why it's stunning that Iran hasn't gotten instructions on the AL-21 and R-13 engines from China and Russia. There should be no guesswork. Simple license product of AL-21 and R-13 engines would power anything Iran needs to build, in addition to Owj.

 

[TheImmortal]

True. Which is why it's stunning that Iran hasn't gotten instructions on the AL-21 and R-13 engines from China and Russia. There should be no guesswork. Simple license product of AL-21 and R-13 engines would power anything Iran needs to build, in addition to Owj.

Not stunning at all. Russia and China have not been willing to turn over such tech to “non-critical states”. China’s closest ally is Pakistan and I doubt Pakistan can build any WS engine without Chinese assistance.

Jet engine tech is incredibly valuable. Realistically only US-China-Russia have demonstrated capability to mass produce reliable engines. Other countries have tried (India, Iran, some Euro) but they still end up relying on foreign assistance or foreign engines to power the bulk of their fighter jets.

A lot of countries “claim” they can build jet engines. But reality is they rely on foreign experts and parts for the most critical areas. If you cannot build 100% of the engine at an economic viable costs and in large numbers you cannot build jet engines, period. I don’t care what you can build with America helping you or what you can build when you import critical parts. I dont care that you built 5 of them, that’s called a prototype. Try building 500 without going bankrupt or the engine failing due to bottlenecks not seen in R&D.

That’s not 100% independence of the production chain.

Some don’t seem to understand this concept.

What’s the difference between TSLA and any other start up EV company? One has reached scalability and profitability while the others still are stuck in start up stage burning cash. So anyone can build an EV car. But can you build 1M of them per year and stay afloat without going under and turn a profit?

Same applies to military ventures.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1692483277691478203

 

[strateger]

Not stunning at all. Russia and China have not been willing to turn over such tech to “non-critical states”. China’s closest ally is Pakistan and I doubt Pakistan can build any WS engine without Chinese assistance.

Jet engine tech is incredibly valuable. Realistically only US-China-Russia have demonstrated capability to mass produce reliable engines. Other countries have tried (India, Iran, some Euro) but they still end up relying on foreign assistance or foreign engines to power the bulk of their fighter jets.

A lot of countries “claim” they can build jet engines. But reality is they rely on foreign experts and parts for the most critical areas. If you cannot build 100% of the engine at an economic viable costs and in large numbers you cannot build jet engines, period. I don’t care what you can build with America helping you or what you can build when you import critical parts. I dont care that you built 5 of them, that’s called a prototype. Try building 500 without going bankrupt or the engine failing due to bottlenecks not seen in R&D.

That’s not 100% independence of the production chain.

Some don’t seem to understand this concept.

What’s the difference between TSLA and any other start up EV company? One has reached scalability and profitability while the others still are stuck in start up stage burning cash. So anyone can build an EV car. But can you build 1M of them per year and stay afloat without going under and turn a profit?

Same applies to military ventures.

If a country is your ally, you supply them technology, period. The AL-21 and R-13 engines are previous generation. Russia/China lose nothing by putting that knowledge in the hands of the North Koreans, Iranians, Syrians, Venezuelans, etc.

 

[TheImmortal]

If a country is your ally, you supply them technology, period. The AL-21 and R-13 engines are previous generation. Russia/China lose nothing by putting that knowledge in the hands of the North Koreans, Iranians, Syrians, Venezuelans, etc.

The West rarely does that with close allies. Precedent is simply not there with key rare technologies.

Furthermore, there is just not enough incentive for either Russia or China to provide listed countries with rare tech. Although North Korea has been potentially getting notable amount of assistance from Russia

 

[Gomig-21]

Nice setup of IRIAF MiG-29s and their weapons. At least 6 UBs (2-seaters) in the left lineup.

EDIT: Correction, those are NOT UB two-seat trainers on the left side. Apologies for that. Bottom 3 pics are UB two-seat trainers.

 

[mohsen]

تولید یک رادار خاص برای جنگنده کوثر | خبرگزاری فارس

Gen. Khajefared, CEO of Iran Aviation Industries Organization:
Based on two missions which are assigned to us, we are working on two new unmanned version of Qaher, which are also scaled. One of the forces has requested to use it, which will be announced in the due time.

In the process of developing this product, we have extracted an intermediate product that is very important in terms of project's economy and technology development.

Gen. Khajefared stated that we should have used the Qaher aircraft as a product for research and development of technology, but even this intermediate product that was the development of the technology found a customer with a very special application in one of the armed forces, which will be demonstrated in the coming months.

Kowsar fighter jet is being equipped with modern weapons. smart missiles and rockets are being implemented on this fighter and we have prepared a special radar for it.

First standard product of Yasin training jet will fly in one or two weeks, and several others are in the production line.


Watch it here:
ارتباط مستقیم با نمایشگاه صنایع دفاعی - 29 مرداد 1402 - برنامه سیاسی تاریخی (شبکه 2) | شبکه 2 - ۲۹ مرداد ماه ۱۴۰۲

 

[Piet]

تولید یک رادار خاص برای جنگنده کوثر | خبرگزاری فارس

Gen. Khajefared, CEO of Iran Aviation Industries Organization:
Based on two missions which are assigned to us, we are working on two new unmanned version of Qaher, which are also scaled. One of the forces has requested to use it, which will be announced in the due time.

In the process of developing this product, we have extracted an intermediate product that is very important in terms of project's economy and technology development.

Gen. Khajefared stated that we should have used the Qaher aircraft as a product for research and development of technology, but even this intermediate product that was the development of the technology found a customer with a very special application in one of the armed forces, which will be demonstrated in the coming months.

Kowsar fighter jet is being equipped with modern weapons. smart missiles and rockets are being implemented on this fighter and we have prepared a special radar for it.

First standard product of Yasin training jet will fly in one or two weeks, and several others are in the production line.


Watch it here:
ارتباط مستقیم با نمایشگاه صنایع دفاعی - 29 مرداد 1402 - برنامه سیاسی تاریخی (شبکه 2) | شبکه 2 - ۲۹ مرداد ماه ۱۴۰۲

Impressive to watch.

An Image that caught the eye straight away where those of an unknown combat a/c.

Any luck with i.d.?

Also,

Looks like Fakpor-90B (blue band)?

P

 

[mack8]

That looks like the Borhan B92.

 

[mohsen]

An Image that caught the eye straight away where those of an unknown combat a/c.

Any luck with i.d.?

That's Borhan (New Shafaq), development didn't continue.

 

[tsunset]

Ababil used and produced also in Tajikistan

 

[Ich]

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RD 33 produced in Iran? It looks new.

 

[TheImmortal]

تولید یک رادار خاص برای جنگنده کوثر | خبرگزاری فارس

Gen. Khajefared, CEO of Iran Aviation Industries Organization:
Based on two missions which are assigned to us, we are working on two new unmanned version of Qaher, which are also scaled. One of the forces has requested to use it, which will be announced in the due time.

In the process of developing this product, we have extracted an intermediate product that is very important in terms of project's economy and technology development.

Gen. Khajefared stated that we should have used the Qaher aircraft as a product for research and development of technology, but even this intermediate product that was the development of the technology found a customer with a very special application in one of the armed forces, which will be demonstrated in the

Notice the BOLD

Projects require customers. General said it himself, that Qaher should have been nothing more than a test bed. Luckily, a branch of Iranian military was able to extract a deployable version.

If Iranian branches don’t fund projects = project dies

Simple as that.