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[Stryker1982]

Doubt it.

Simple satellite photos would be able to show if Israeli jets are stationed there.

Drones on the other hand….

I was more so focus on the fighter jet patrol rather than the claim from the Twitter account, since the warning patrol appears to be legitimate

 

[AmirPatriot]

Guess it could have been an RF-4

Baku is barking to stir something up since even in their own accusations the jet flew at closest along the border line, not across it

Another question is how often these flights are; if this is the first one in recent times it's interesting, if they're regular then Baku is just choosing now to bark about it

 

[WudangMaster]

 

[LegionnairE]

it's such a shame that Iranians decided to reverse engineer the F5 instead of the F-14.

Which would be actually worth producing in 2023

 

[aryobarzan]

it's such a shame that Iranians decided to reverse engineer the F5 instead of the F-14.

Which would be actually worth producing in 2023

First you learn how to walk then you run...Unlike Turkey's F-16 production license ,Iran did not have any experience in building Aircraft..so F-5 was a good start point. The running will start soon..

 

[yugocrosrb95]

it's such a shame that Iranians decided to reverse engineer the F5 instead of the F-14.

Which would be actually worth producing in 2023

They reverse engineered F-5 Tiger II that has J85-GE-21 turbojet that has all traits of J79 in terms of technology, just much smaller and considerably simpler engine.
Cloning and reproduction of J85 certainly gave knowledge and experience for Iranians to reproduce FJ33 turbofan due to things such as titanium blades.

 

[LegionnairE]

They reverse engineered F-5 Tiger II that has J85-GE-21 turbojet that has all traits of J79 in terms of technology, just much smaller and considerably simpler engine.
Cloning and reproduction of J85 certainly gave knowledge and experience for Iranians to reproduce FJ33 turbofan due to things such as titanium blades.

a reverse-engineered engine doesn't have to have the same thrust, reliability or fuel efficiency. It just has to be the same size as the TF-30

It's not like RQ-170 Sentinel was reproduced exactly. Same could apply here in reverse-engineering the F-14

 

[Joe_Adam]

U.S. Force Deployment in the Middle East

This is the U.S. Force base in the Middle East

At a glance, it is clear that the U.S. military is extremely close to the Iranian border.
With the exception of western Oman, almost all bases are within 600 km of the Iranian border.
In particular, the largest number of troops are deployed in Kuwait, which borders Iran directly.
You will see that the majority of them are at close range, with more than 30,000 troops within 200 km of the border and a total of more than 40,000 within 600 km.

This extreme forward deployment of U.S. forces does not take long-term warfare into account at all. The U.S. military is even moving its bases backward in South Korea.
The reason they are deploying forward knowing that SRBMs will rain down from Iran is because they plan to completely destroy Iran with intense and indiscriminate bombing
in a short period of time to avoid the economic disruption caused by a prolonged blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
During the Obama administration, the U.S. military issued a report that Iran could be destroyed in three months.
Is the Iranian government too optimistic about such a U.S. military policy?
Are they not assuming too much of a long-term war, such as the construction of an air base in a long-awaited tunnel?
Saudi Arabia would certainly cooperate actively with the U.S. in an emergency and provide a safe rear base for an invasion of Iran.
However, there is a limit to the rearward deployment of air bases, and there is no doubt that the U.S. will not fall back in a contingency,
and plans to deploy strategic bombings since the Vietnam War, which is different from the kindness of the Russians.

This is a strong evidence showing that the Americans & many of their followers have passed the point of no return in their drug addiction which is so obviously portrayed in this hallucination.

 

[Joe_Adam]

In the Gulf War, the U.S. military dropped 88,000 tons of bombs on Iraq in just 42 days, destroying the entire country.
Complete destruction of all electrical infrastructure, vital factories, oil-related facilities, oil tankers, and military centers.
Iraq has literally fallen back to medieval levels as civilization has collapsed.
This is the equivalent of 170,000 Russian Kalibr cruise missiles!!.
That is more than 300 times the bombing Russia has done over the course of a year, or 4,000 times the pace per month.
This is the destructive power of the U.S. military, and we must face reality.

In the 2003 invasion of Iraq, 3,000 missiles and guided bombs were dropped on Baghdad on the first day alone.
This is not ten times more than the attack that took the Russians a year to carry out.
The Iraqis instantly lost the will to fight and became irresistible.

Moreover, today, there are many fighter aircraft with powerful ground attack capabilities, such as the F-15E and F-35.
The order of magnitude of attack capability is different from those days when we had to rely on old and poor attack aircraft.
It is no exaggeration to say that the U.S. military claimed it could completely destroy Iran in three months.

Firstly, the US air force had better ground attack aircraft during 1990s and "F-15E" was the bulk of that force during operation Iraqi freedom. To this day, the F-15E is the best aircraft in USA. Despite all the hype and BS about stealth. it's a big joke since America's stealth assets are stealthy for some radars and detection systems but they could be hunted just as easy as hunting an old British Hawker Hunter of the 1960s. Most modern armed forces have multiple means to detect, track and destroy such assets nowadays.

The US attacked Iraq when that crumbling nation was economically depleted, and literally defenseless, it has no air defense systems, very poor command & control, lacked any industries, its weapon stockpiles were mostly inoperable, it lacked cohesive fighting formations, and 90% of the Iraqi population was against the ruling regime.

Furthermore, Iraq was completely void of any surveillance capabilities, it lacked trained cadres of military planners and leaders. Additionally, Iraq had very poor communication systems civilian or military, the communication infrastructure was degraded to almost non-existence by many years of Iraq-Iraq war, as well as lack of upgrades or required maintenance .

The only thing they had going for them was a large army, disorganized, poorly trained, poorly fed, and knew nothing about modern warfare, that army was a regime guardian but never a fighting force to defend Iraq. That miserable army constituted a large herd of headless people ready for target practice. Taking credit for defeating such an army is clearly a sign of inferiority complex as that was neither an army nor a robust fighting force.

If that's the standard by which USA plans to attack Iran, then call a priest on the US army as they will be in for the surprise of the millennium.

Lastly, the US forces during the 1990s were many folds stronger, better trained, and were led by competent leaders. The current US army is a joke since it has no capacity material wise, has a lousy leadership and incapable to win a full scale war against any nation with well armed, and well led armed forces. The idea that few squadrons of F-35 or B-2 could tilt the balance and defeat Iran, then you need a serious head examination. The rest of the post is pure fantasy or a day dream at best.

 

[Joe_Adam]

I wonder how many nuclear-armed ICBMs that would require. Probably 50+ at the very least. 5-10 is sufficient for Israel given its tiny size and total lack of strategic depth. Regardless, it takes a long time to acquire that kind of inventory.

Let's say Iran makes the decision to develop nuclear weapons and ICBMs and in 10 years' time it has a stockpile of 50+ nuclear-armed ICBMs. That protects Iran against a military invasion and probably overt military strikes inside Iran (but not necessarily, see Russia), but that's not too dissimilar to the current situation. So what's the end-game? It's not guaranteed that China/Russia would veto UNSC Resolutions against Iran in this scenario (in fact, probably unlikely) so the economic situation of Iran would become 10x worse, and I am not sure how having nuclear weapons presents a path out of that.

If Nuke deterrent is the purpose, then Iran could assemble 100 100K+ ton warhead in 6 months or less, and the ICBM needs no waiting nor lead-time as Iran has been in possession of such system for many years now albeit not declared. A missile that could lift a 100 KG to 500k in lower earth-orbit should have a range of 10,000 km depending on payload and Iran has that capacity, and keeps producing lighter and more energetic systems for bigger payloads and further reach.

The known Iranian nuclear site are obviously decoys and most experts know that to be a fact. What's hidden is unknown. According to many who follow Iran's atomic tech history are well aware that Iran already produced the casing and the complete warheads minus the fissionable material. Take a wild guess; how many weeks or months needed for Iran produce enough 90+ HEU to arm 100 warheads? It depends on the urgency, and the priority given to such task.

Lastly, Iran will never hit Israel with nukes since there are 4 million oppressed Palestinian living there in addition to the population of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt all of which are nearby, so it's impossible for Iran to utilize such weapon in this region as that means its demise among Muslims.

Lastly, the idea that Israeli destruction requires 5-10 warheads is a wildly inflated figure, a single 100-200K ton warhead will end it for good. The contaminated region around the explosion extends way beyond Israeli borders, thus, the surviving inhabitants will escape that land on the double, there goes Israel in one bang.

 

[shadihassan28]

If Nuke deterrent is the purpose, then Iran could assemble 100 100K+ ton warhead in 6 months or less, and the ICBM needs no waiting nor lead-time as Iran has been in possession of such system for many years now albeit not declared. A missile that could lift a 100 KG to 500k in lower earth-orbit should have a range of 10,000 km depending on payload and Iran has that capacity, and keeps producing lighter and more energetic systems for bigger payloads and further reach.

The known Iranian nuclear site are obviously decoys and most experts know that to be a fact. What's hidden is unknown. According to many who follow Iran's atomic tech history are well aware that Iran already produced the casing and the complete warheads minus the fissionable material. Take a wild guess; how many weeks or months needed for Iran produce enough 90+ HEU to arm 100 warheads? It depends on the urgency, and the priority given to such task.

Lastly, Iran will never hit Israel with nukes since there are 4 million oppressed Palestinian living there in addition to the population of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt all of which are nearby, so it's impossible for Iran to utilize such weapon in this region as that means its demise among Muslims.

Lastly, the idea that Israeli destruction requires 5-10 warheads is a wildly inflated figure, a single 100-200K ton warhead will end it for good. The contaminated region around the explosion extends way beyond Israeli borders, thus, the surviving inhabitants will escape that land on the double, there goes Israel in one bang.

I think your drifting from thread so with respect to the thread maybe move it to the chill section or another thread just to be fair to other members.

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

I think your drifting from thread so with respect to the thread maybe move it to the chill section or another thread just to be fair to other members.

You're not a moderator here, he's responding, very constructively, to another user who also technically has gone off the thread. I think youre bothered because Israel's defeat is being discussed here. The usual pattern with you.

 

[shadihassan28]

You're not a moderator here, he's responding, very constructively, to another user who also technically has gone off the thread. I think youre bothered because Israel's defeat is being discussed here. The usual pattern with you.

Okay, btw did you even read the thread I went off topic here in the ground section which I apologized for as well didn’t seem pro Israel, night I have to be up at 4 am.

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

Okay, btw did you even read the thread I went off topic here in the ground section which I apologized for as well didn’t seem pro Israel, night I have to be up at 4 am.

No I didnt, I try to spare myself the mundanity. Then go and sleep?

 

[glablo]

Whatever it is, I think any argument based on the assumption of Russian kindness would be inaccurate.
When the children of Yemen are emaciated and miserable due to the cruel blockade by the US and Saudi/UAE
The loudest voices for human rights in the West just laugh.
The U.S. has a "license to kill" that effectively gives it immunity from committing any kind of cruel slaughter.
When the U.S. invades, it cannot be with a limited attack like Russia.

For example, a UNICEF study found that the U.S. bombed 200 elementary schools and killed 3,000 children in the first year of the Iraq invasion alone.
How many elementary schools did Russia bomb? Zero, right?

The fact that Iraq was miserably occupied and is still managed by the US with all the revenue from oil exports...
It is not because they were weak.
Iraq was bombed thousands of times more indiscriminately than Ukraine, that's the whole reason.

No matter how many anti aircraft systems you build, no matter how many tunnels you dig, if you don't have a powerful counter attack capability.
A one-sided slaughter is inevitable with tens of thousands of missiles raining down on the entire country.
And then the Western media will be praising the U.S. for its humane bombing.
All civilian casualties will be treated as a conspiracy by the Iranian government.