Iraq's war against IS terrorism | Updates and Discussions

[kollang]

Yeap, if you stay away from me and my contry, i won't bother myself with rafidis.

I am free to say whatever I want about you and your terrorist country.deal with it.

 

[-SINAN-]

I am free to say whatever I want about you and your terrorist country.deal with it.

I'm not gonna deal with it but you in that case.

 

[kollang]

I'm not gonna deal with it but you in that case.

We know how to deal.this is why rmi and you get banned on daily basis

 

[-SINAN-]

We know how to deal.this is why rmi and you get banned on daily basis

I get banned for only two times since a became a member. One in Chinese section, one directly by webby for advertisement. I have never get banned for arguing with you.....but we can't say the same for you and your kin.

Taqqiya master rafidi.

 

[kollang]

I get banned for only two times since a became a member. One in Chinese section, one directly by webby for advertisement. I have never get banned for arguing with you.....but we can't say the same for you and your kin.

Taqqiya master rafidi.

I see erDOGan supporting terrorism had some effects on Torkish people too.good! Keep going and they will let you blow up yourself in Syria to kill rafidis.

BTW, since 2011 I have been banned for twice.pretty sure that you havent seen me banned at all.

 

[Nawaba]

Gentlemen, please behave yourselves.

 

[ResurgentIran]

I see erDOGan supporting terrorism had some effects on Torkish people too.good! Keep going and they will let you blow up yourself in Syria to kill rafidis.

BTW, since 2011 I have been banned for twice.pretty sure that you havent seen me banned at all.

Dadash, velesh kon. Dont bother with it.
I have reported his posts. I dont really take insult to his words by calling us "rafidi" (as Im not even religious), but sectarianism is against the rules

 

[kollang]

@haman10 @ResurgentIran

Really good to see this guy is really not "into discussion with Iranians".LOL

 

[-SINAN-]

@haman10 @ResurgentIran

Really good to see this guy is really not "into discussion with Iranians".LOL

What exactly i'm discussing with you about, right now ???

Edit: And about "rafidi, rafida"....you can thank @haman10 for that.

 

[About.to.be.banned]

The price of a slave... as determined by official ISIS price list: Islamist group sets prices for Yazidi and Christian women - with girls under nine fetching the highest price


A 'price list' for Yazidi and Christian women and child slaves abducted by ISIS militants as spoils of war has been unveiled.

The terror organisation recently boasted of enslaving women from the Iraqi ethnic minority.

According to the documens, just £27 will fetch a Yazidi or Christian woman aged between 40 and 50.

Chillingly, a child between one and nine will fetch four times that.

The document also states that the slavery market has recently taken a downturn, hitting ISIS' war chest.

Disturbing: A 'price list' for Yazidi and Christian women and child slaves abducted by ISIS militants as spoils of war has been unveiled. Pictured, an Islamic State fighter explaining it is slave 'distribution day' in a video​

It said: 'The market to sell women and spoils of war has been experiencing a significant decrease, which has adversely affected ISIS revenue and financing of the Mujahideen.'

ISIS has now imposed price controls over the sale of women and spoils, threatening to execute whoever violates the guidelines.

According to the document, no one is allowed to purchase more than three slaves, unless they are foreigners like Turks, Syrians and Gulf Arabs

One unidentified man, pictured left, says he is searching for a girl while another man sitting next to him laughs

Who wants to sell? A man asks who has a slave to sell and one is quickly found and negotiations begin

Exchange: The seller quickly reveals he is happy to part with his young slave girl for a Glock pistol

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Haggle: But the buyers want to know what the girl looks like before they name a price


an unsettling video emerged purporting to show Islamic State fighters bartering over Yazidi women at a slave girl 'market', with men appearing in the clip explain it is 'slave market day'.

The footage shows the men negotiating the price of the women, with blue and green-eyed young girls fetching a higher price.

It starts with one man saying to the camera: 'Today is the slave market day. Today is the day where this verse applies: 'Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess, - for (then) they are not to be blamed'.

He added: 'Today is distribution day God willing. Each one takes his share.'

Another then says: 'I swear man I am searching for a girl. I hope I find one.'

The men laugh and another says: 'Today is the day of (female) slaves and we should have our share.'

Bartering begins after a seller is found, who says he is happy to sell his slave for a Glock pistol.

Sellers offer prices, with one going as high as five banknotes. Subtitles on the clip explain that one banknote is probably the equivalent of 100 dollars.

But the buyers explain the price they are willing to pay depends on looks and they will need to verify the girl is to their liking.

One says he would need to check the teeth of the 15-year-old being auctioned, and explains: 'If she doesn't have teeth, why would I want her?'

The video was shot in Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, which was seized by ISIS in June, according to Al Aan TV - which translated the clip into English.


THE PRICE OF HUMAN MISERY - THE FULL ISIS PRICE LIST FOR SLAVES
A woman aged 40 to 50 - 50,000 dinars(£27)
A woman aged 30 to 40 - 75,000 dinars(£40)
A woman aged 20 to 30 - 100,000 dinars (£53)
A girl, aged 10 to 20 - 150,000 dinars(£80)
A child under nine - 200,000 dinars (£106)

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Picky: But the buyers explain the price depends on the young girl's looks and they will need to check her teeth

The group has been reported as saying that Yazidi women and children captured during the offensive in Sinjar town were divided among fighters 'according to sharia law'.

Last month, a young Yazidi woman forced into sex slavery by the Islamic State claimed militants raped her 30 times in just a few hours.

The unidentified woman is understood to have been kept as a prisoner of the jihadists somewhere in western Iraq having been captured by ISIS during the Sinjar massacre in early August.

A group raising awareness of ISIS' persecution of women in the vast swathes of the Middle East under its control said the woman had contacted Kurdish peshmerga fighters by telephone to plead for the brothel to be bombed to put the women held as sex slaves out of their misery.

She allegedly told the fighters she had been raped so frequently that she could no longer use the toilet, adding the ordeal has been so harrowing that she plans to commit suicide even if freed.

Valuable: Blue and green eyes are preferred by the men, who say they will offer a higher price

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Teeth: But negotiations later stall when it appears the girl, thought to be aged 15, may be missing some teeth

And a 15-year-old girl told how she escaped militants by drugging and shooting two husbands who bought her as a slave.

The teenager, who has been kept anonymous to protect her family, was one of hundreds of women from the Yazidi sect who extremists kidnapped after overrunning their homes on Iraq's Mount Sinjar.

The UN have confirmed that thousands of Yazidis were slaughtered when ISIS swept through northern Iraq in August.

Researchers concluded that more than 5,000 Yazidi were gunned down in a series of massacres by jihadists.

Thousands of women are also being held in makeshift detention centres, where they either been taken away and sold into slavery or handed over to jihadists as concubines


'IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE TEETH, WHY WOULD I WANT HER?': FULL TRANSCRIPT
The clip begins with one man addressing the camera: Today is the slave market day. Today is the day where this verse applies: 'Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess, - for (then) they are not too be blamed'.

Today is distribution day God willing. Each one takes his share.

Another then says: I swear man I am searching for a girl. I hope I find one.

Another adds: Today is the day of (female) slaves and we should have our share.

The bartering begins with the words: Who wants to sell?

The seller's reply: I want to sell.

Why?

I pay three banknotes (Subtitles explain one banknote is probably 100 dollars)

I buy her for a pistol.

The price differs if she has blue eyes.

The seller replies: I will sell her for a Glock!

I pay five banknotes.

It depends on how she looks like.

If she is 15 years old, I have to check her... Check her teeth.

If she has green eyes...

If she doesn't have teeth, why would I want her?



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[About.to.be.banned]

ISIS sets prices for Yazidi and Christian women with girls under nine fetching the highest price | Daily Mail Online

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Iran will bomb irbil to oblivion (after taking its people as hosts) if needs be . kirkuk belongs to iraq .

Stand down little Pkk terrorists

poorsians have turned into baathists, not surprised. Kirkuk is and will always be Kurdsitan. neither turkey, iran or the entire arab world can do anything to change it. Girkok is the heart of Kurdistan.

you seem to forget easily, remember the road of death?

"cleaned our dirty faces"

Those exact same Peshmergas are today defending Xaraput frontline in Kirkuk, should be noted that IS didn't dare to attack them during the big offensive on Kirkuk, it was the only frontline they didn't attack. They gave them a big lesson in Gwer last august. Should also be noted how Kurdish fighters from Rojhelat(iran) told your BBC farsi film crew how after they are done there, they will come for iran.

none of our concern .

the reason why iran helped erbil in face of ISIS was obvious : 1- PKK is quite frankly better than ISIS 2- we wanted to keep ISIS as far as humanly possible from iranian borders .

Now if iraq's stability and territorial integrity is in anyway challenged by these scums of humanity (PKK and PJAK) , iran will not stand idly by .

we'll bomb the shizzam outta them . actually the Havanirooz (IRIAF station) in kermanshah whose pilots are all kurds too , will carry out the job

all we gotta do is to take all the civilians as refuge and give them citizenship , then bomb the terrorists .

"Xalil Zareh , He was born in Kermashan. He was an excellent student and continued his studies in the US and became a fighter pilot. When the war started the regime ordered him to bomb Kurdistan but he refused and fled to turkey. from turkey he contacted Dr Qassimlo and joined as a Peshmerga.He fought in Wirmê at first for a time but then he wanted a bigger role.So he got to lead the 110th brigade in Bokan that got a big reputation for it's success against the regime. Then he went south and started the Dalaho "front" and fought there along locals there in Kermashan. The regime wanted to find a way to kill him, a jash(traitor) helped the regime capture him. He was taken prison in Dizla Abad, Kermashan.The regime tried and tried but never got a single word out of him. He was later executed. "

 

[-SINAN-]

poorsians have turned into baathists, not surprised. Kirkuk is and will always be Kurdsitan. neither turkey, iran or the entire arab world can do anything to change it. Girkok is the heart of Kurdistan.

you seem to forget easily, remember the road of death?

"cleaned our dirty faces"

Those exact same Peshmergas are today defending Xaraput frontline in Kirkuk, should be noted that IS didn't dare to attack them during the big offensive on Kirkuk, it was the only frontline they didn't attack. They gave them a big lesson in Gwer last august. Should also be noted how Kurdish fighters from Rojhelat(iran) told your BBC farsi film crew how after they are done there, they will come for iran.





"Xalil Zareh , He was born in Kermashan. He was an excellent student and continued his studies in the US and became a fighter pilot. When the war started the regime ordered him to bomb Kurdistan but he refused and fled to turkey. from turkey he contacted Dr Qassimlo and joined as a Peshmerga.He fought in Wirmê at first for a time but then he wanted a bigger role.So he got to lead the 110th brigade in Bokan that got a big reputation for it's success against the regime. Then he went south and started the Dalaho "front" and fought there along locals there in Kermashan. The regime wanted to find a way to kill him, a jash(traitor) helped the regime capture him. He was taken prison in Dizla Abad, Kermashan.The regime tried and tried but never got a single word out of him. He was later executed. "

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Well, i think you shouldn't talk big in this issues.....once you said Dersim belongs to Kurdistan not to Turkey.....result.
Dersim Massacre as you describe.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

There is 5,000 PMF just on the outskirts, 10KM away.

You have to look at the broad picture. The Iraqis see Kirkuk as an IRAQI city. If the Kurds in the city don't consider themselves Iraqi they are more than welcome to leave to Kurdistan.

As for pointing the guns towards PMF in Kirku.

first, you will never get the western support or airstrikes against them, second, Iran will not sit and watch.

The PMF leaders have already made it clear the Kirkuk is Iraqi and not "kurdistani" as Barzani calls it.


It doesn't matter what or how you try to convince these people, he was raised to hate since childhood.

Deaf, dumb and blind. They see all shias as sub-humans regardless.

But Kirkuk is and has always been Kurdish and Kurdistani. Even Hawija used to have a big Kurdish population before saddam threw all native kurds out and took in arabs instead. Kirkuk is historically a Kurdish city and so is it today. Out of the 12 seats Kurdish paties won 8 during the latest elections. Kurds are clear majority. Kurds have lost too much blood and men in defending the city to allow some fucking blood suckers come and claim it. when the iraqi army fled it was Peshmerga that defended it and is continuing to defend it. it is Kurds that are building up the city's infrastructure, businesses, housing etc etc, and it's Kurds that are defending it. and shia militias will never be allowed to enter and they never have. Kirkukis won't allow it nor do the Kurdish leadership allow it. Except for the Hero(talabanis wife) mullah sucking whore.

Well, i think you shouldn't talk big in this issues.....once you said Dersim belongs to Kurdistan not to Turkey.....result.
Dersim Massacre as you describe.

Dersim belongs to Kurdistan and Dersim is in Kurdistan. Kurdish populations are growing and hopefully will continue to grow in a high precentage. Fact is Kurdish movement in Bakur hasn't been this strong since the 70's adding the fact that turkey is neighbouring Kurdish controlled areas to the south. except for jarabulus and gire spi where IS is.

Once an Islamic State Stronghold, Jalawla Is Now a Ghost Town


Iraqis brave enough to come home risk explosive traps and Shia militias



by MATT CETTI-ROBERTS

Taha, the Kurdish security chief in Jalawla, walked through a hole in a demolished wall and climbed onto the rubble of his home. A sandstorm howled around him, covering the sky with an eerie yellow glow.

He looked at the ruins. Nothing stood apart from a few metal supports and some ruined rooms.

“ISIS had locals among them, they knew where my house was and when they took the town they blew it up,” he said, rubbing the sand from his eyes. “It’s hard to come back here.”

Islamic State captured Jalawla—a town in Iraq’s disputed territory—as the terror group tore through northern Iraq last summer. In November, Kurdish Peshmerga and a Shia militia liberated Jalawla after a long and bitter battle.

But Jalawla remains a dangerous ghost town. Collapsed buildings punctuate the streets. Many shops in the town’s bazaar bear scars from mortar rounds that exploded nearby. Graffiti left over from Islamic State’s occupation adorn some buildings. Bombs and booby traps remain a real threat.

An uneasy alliance of Kurdish troops and Shia militiamen patrols the city. The ostensible allies pursue very different agendas—and frequently clash.

At top—a Kurdish Asayish officer. Above—Taha, the commander of the Kurdish Asayish in Jalawla surveys the wreckage of his house. Matt Cetti-Roberts photos
‘ISIS wants to attack again’
Jalawla and the nearby town of Sadia are now part of a militarized zone. Home owners must get permission from the Asayish, the Kurdish security agency, before they can return.

Even then, the locals only have permission to stay long enough to collect their belongings. The Asayish is reluctant to allow people to move back permanently. The Kurds claim to have intel that Islamic State is planning to attack Jalawla again.

The town sits on the corridor linking Baghdad to Kurdistan in the north. Its location—and its proximity to the Iranian border—gives Jalawla strategic importance.

“We have received intelligence saying that ISIS wants to attack again,” said Taha, explaining the continued risk to residents. “ISIS is still coming in at night and planting bombs.”
In early February, a jihadi bomb killed eight Peshmerga on a nearby road. The closest village is home to Islamic State supporters, some members of the local Karawe tribe.

The Karawe is the main Sunni Arab tribe that inhabits the surrounding area. But the clan has divided loyalties. Some support Islamic State, while others turned their back on the insurgents.

Those who refused to help Islamic State live in camps for displaced Iraqis, near the Kurdish towns of Kalar and Khanaqin to the north.

Sheikh Hwandi, the leader of the Karawe tribe, refused to support the insurgents. He lost both of his legs when Islamic State tried to assassinate him.

An electrical wire leading to a pressure plate, the only sign of an IED left by militants in a house on the outskirts of Jalawla. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo
Explosive threat
Islamic State retreated and left behind explosives, hidden in fridges and stairwells for unsuspecting liberators.

“We find new bombs all the time,” Taha revealed. But the Asayish don’t have specialized equipment that would make it easier to detect the traps. So far, the death toll from IED explosions stands at around 40.

Taha entered a house on the outskirts of Jalawla. This part of the town was part of Islamic State’s front line against the Peshmerga.

It’s still remarkably intact. There’s a few signs of a military occupation—discarded jihadi uniforms and empty bullet casings littered gaps between the houses.

The house is almost entirely empty except for a few pieces of furniture. A fine layer of sand covered everything. Two copies of the Quran sat on a bedroom table, perhaps left by the former owners to show Islamic State fighters that they were good Sunni Muslims.

The display of devotion is not enough. “He was a religious man, and they still placed a bomb in his house,” Taha observed.

A large improvised explosive device sat on a landing between two sets of stairs. Whoever designed the bomb used a plastic motor oil container. The only visible signs that it’s an explosive device are two wires—almost out of sight—between the device and the wall.

Taha pointed to part of a single, thin wire, which disappeared beneath a folded rug on the floor. The bomb was large enough to kill anyone unlucky enough to trigger the device.
Besides potential attacks from Islamic State, there’s another obstacle preventing residents from coming home.

In June, the Iraqi government called for volunteers in the fight against the Islamic State. The result was the Popular Mobilization Forces, a grouping of Shia militia fighters that not only included new volunteers, but more battle-seasoned and well-established groups, all loyal to then-Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki.

At times, these militias have clashed with Kurdish forces within the disputed territories.

The Shia militia entered Jalawla in November, their fighters part of a group called Saraya Tali’a Al Khurasani, or STK. There’s little public information about STK, but the group first emerged in 2013 in Syria, and released footage of their fighters operating near Damascus.

A bazaar lies empty in Jalawla. Shia militias burned and looted many businesses and shops after the liberation of the town. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo
Destruction
Members of the Shia militia—who took part in the town’s recapture—stayed in the city. Then they burned businesses and homes.

“The Shia were burning the houses because they saw Jalawla as a 99 percent Sunni town,” an Asayish officer in Jalawla said. “They came for revenge. They did not care who the house belonged to.”

Ali Sarhad, a civil servant from Jalawla, loaded his car with his family’s possessions on a deserted and dusty street in the town’s bazaar. “When the Peshmerga came, everything was OK,” he said. “When the Shia came, this happened. The Shia took everything worth anything.”

Ali’s brother Hassan picked through a looted computer shop in the bazaar. The wreckage was all that remained of his livelihood. A gaping hole in a cupboard marked where a large, expensive server rack used to be.

“This is the first time we have been back in Jalawla since the liberation,” Hassan said. “The Shia took everything. All they left was one keyboard and one mouse.”
He looked around inside the smashed store as his brothers sifted through rubbish left behind on the floor. The Shia militia even filmed themselves looting Hassan’s shop and uploaded the video to Facebook.

“I will only come back to this city if it is under Peshmerga control—not Shia,” Hassan said.

Jalawla residents living in a displaced-persons camp in the nearby town of Khanaqin share Hassan’s feelings.



“When we left our homes, some stayed behind,” said a man from the town of Sadia, close to Jalawla and also currently under the Shia militia’s control.

“The old and unwell had to be left behind in Sadia, including my mentally-ill relative named Walid,” he continued. “The Shia had no mercy for them. We saw their killings on TV and social media.”

Relatives last saw images of Walid online. He had been decapitated, and his feet placed on top of his head.

Those in the camp agree with Ali and Hassan. They do not want to return to their homes while the Shia militia remain in the area. They don’t talk about hidden explosive devices. Instead, many fled to the camp because the Iraqiarmy randomly bombed their homes.

They also don’t have faith in the Iraqi central government. Rather, they would prefer to live under Kurdish administration.

“When the coalition got rid of Saddam, they handed us to a mad man,” another male resident said, referring to Maliki. “Can they not come again?”

A resident of Jalawla, now working as security for local businesses stands on a street in the town’s bazaar. The small protection force tries to stop any further looting of homes and businesses in the town. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo
Signs of accord
The Kurdish troops are uneasy with the Shia militias, too. A recent agreement in January limited the number of Shia militiamen in Jalawla to 80 fighters, and restricts them to two locations.

Monthly meetings now take place between the Kurdish Peshmerga, the Asayish, Iraqi army and Shia militia to coordinate and try to avoid further conflicts in Jalawla. Theft is still common, but the Kurdish security forces are doing their best to stamp it out.

At a checkpoint on the outskirts of town, Taha looked over a pile of household goods, a refrigerator and air conditioners.

“At first the Shia militia said they belonged to ISIS,” Taha said. “The Peshmerga confiscated them and we found out where they were taken from. We arranged to return them to their owners.”

If the coalition can defeat Islamic State, local officials plan to work with Kurdish and Sunni Arab communities in the area.

Jalawla will have its own security force, with a shared command of Kurds and Sunni Arabs. But this feels like a long way off when the town is still a militarized zone.

It won’t be until there’s peace that homeowners can return, and start the long process of healing the war’s open wounds.

 

[-SINAN-]

Dersim belongs to Kurdistan and Dersim is in Kurdistan. Kurdish populations are growing and hopefully will continue to grow in a high precentage.

We live in a democratic country, you can say anything you want.

Fact is Kurdish movement in Bakur hasn't been this strong since the 70's adding the fact that turkey is neighbouring Kurdish controlled areas to the south. except for jarabulus and gire spi where IS is.

I googled Bakur but found nothing.....is it a town in Syria? If so it doesn't concern me.