No offense my dear, but your understanding of Iraq situation is very shallow, you are repeating what usual western media have been blabbering about.
As i said im not an expert on Iraqi issues but which part dont you agree with? About Corruption, that Iraqi goverment couldnt satisfy the population or that Iraqi Army didnt want to fight for Sunnia area?
You say i repeat western media, that media mostly isnt reliable is nothing new but what do you follow? Its not like your living in Iraq and get information from first hand.
The point is, many Iraqi Sunnis will not be satisfied with anything but ruling Iraq again, they ruled Iraq under Saddam and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, and now, they are sponsoring ISIS in their cities, using suicide bombing to spread terror and doing everything they can to destabilize Iraq (not all of them of course, I'm talking about the trouble makers among them).
They welcomed IS in 2014 and now they are begging Shias to liberate their areas.
Which is the direct result of the fact that Iraqi goverment couldnt satisfy them, what i mean with satisfying is the stability of Saddam era (not that Saddam was good to begin with but Iraq was surely more stable than today), it couldnt provide jobs, people didnt feel the economic growth, corruption everywhere and last but not least thousands of state employees from Saddam era who became unemployed over night, lets not forget that some of those people make the backbone of isis.
People would forget about sects if Iraqi goverment was able to bring economic growth, money is the first thing people care about, none would support isis if they had a comfortable life.
You are wrong about Mosul, fifth columns in Iraq's army sold those areas to IS, that's why not a single bullet was shot. Most of the troops stationed in in those areas were locals (Sunnis) and they were told by their commanders to pack up and leave.
Thats also another claim, dont know which one is true but lets assume its like you say its still the failure of Iraqi goverment, a good goverment must be able to defend its territory everything else is an excuse.
I'm actually sick of all these "Iraq failed to represent Sunnis" slandering.
Are we gonna be able to hold a conversation without name callings, what happened to no offence?
When they ruled Iraq, they killed nearly a million of Iraqis, when Saddam was toppled, they again started supporting terrorism.
Who?
The suicide bombings in Iraq started in 2003, even before there was any Maliki around, so please, we are not fooled by any of this.
Which brings me back to my argument of thousands of unemployed state employees.
I again claim that Turkey has failed to represent Kurds hence PKK is a genuine movement fighting for rights of its people. How do you take that?
Fist of all none is claiming that isis is legitimate, would you pls stop with this?
I take that easy, pkk issue started with the wrong policy of past, it is true that Turkish state
was not able to represent Kurds, in fact it was more like the opposite.
But today Kurds have all their rights, their language is even being teached in schools, they can vote for their own political party, by your logic if Turkey isnt able to represent Kurds then its pkk, well did you know pkk is attacking doctors, teachers, schools etc. in eastern Turkey, they attack infrastructure thats being built for Kurds? Did you know out of 14 million Kurds in Turkey pkk could barely gather 5-10 thousand fighters? That half of Kurds are actually voting for AKP instead of HDP? That pkk barely fought in Kobane? (in fact they were busy burning road construction mashines, Kindergartens, Supermarkets etc. when isis was slaughtering Kurds there, what did Turkey do? accepted 250'000 Kurdish refugees in one day)
If thats representing Kurds then good luck with that one.
Have you ever seen western media saying anything about rights of Shia minority in Saudi Arabia or Shia majority in Bahrain whose revolution is being suppressed by western stooges, all with silence of piss activists and western governments? But they never wasted a second to spread their rubbish about Iraq and Syria and Iran, how 'evil Maliki' was oppressing Sunnis when he was pursuing and hunting down the remnants of Saddam regime which were conspiring with Al-Qaeda.
I dont know about Shias in Saudi or Bahrain so not gonna comment on that but media is biased thats nothing new anyway, does that change anything about Iraqi goverment?
Why mixing topics when we are actually talking about Iraq?
Anyways, from this conversation i come to the conclusion that you think that Iraqi goverment isnt bad and that isis could spread there isnt the goverments fault but the local Sunnis?
If thats the case, lets split Iraq into Sunnia and Shia, what other option is left considering your arguments?
Maybe he's on to something.
