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Hitler was also democratically elected...
Contrary to Hitler and Nazi Germany, Assad and Syria didn't attack or invaded any neighboring country. Syria was attacked and being destroyed and Turkey has her hand in theses murderous policies applied against Syria, the Syrians ant their culture.
 
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Contrary to Hitler and Nazi Germany, Assad and Syria didn't attack or invaded any neighboring country. Syria was attacked and being destroyed and Turkey has her hand in theses murderous policies applied against Syria, the Syrians ant their culture.
Okay, post this in Syria Thread..
 
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Hitler was also democratically elected...

But not everyone is elected in middle east !

If the guy is elected , Then he should be judged and questioned in a legal way not by rioting , betraying and opening the road for terrorists to step in .

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The ISIS March Continues: From Ramadi on to Baghdad?

Anyone telling you the Islamic State is in decline isn’t paying attention.

Once again, in less than a year, Iraqi soldiers abandoned their positions en masse and fled in the face of advancing Islamic State forces. The fall of the city of Ramadi, the provincial capital of Anbar province, leaves no doubt about the jihadi group’s capabilities: Despite U.S. attempts to paint it as a gravely weakened organization, the Islamic State remains a powerful force that is on the offensive in several key fronts across Syria and Iraq.

Ramadi is far from the only front on which the Islamic State is advancing. The group last week launched an offensive, supported by multiple suicide operations, in the eastern Syrian city of Deir Ezzor against President Bashar al-Assad regime’s holdouts in the military air base. In the central city of Palmyra, it attacked a regime base near the ancient Roman ruins. It also recently clashed with Syrian rebels and the regime in the eastern countryside of Aleppo, the provinces of Homs and Hama, and the southern city of Quneitra, near the border with Israel.

Nor are the Islamic State’s gains in Iraq confined to Ramadi.

The Islamic State’s recent advance did not take the world by surprise, as it did when the group captured Mosul and other areas across Iraq last year. This time, the United States said it conducted seven airstrikes in Ramadi, in an effort to prevent its fall, in the 24 hours before the city was lost. Local officials in Ramadi, meanwhile, had repeatedly warned that the city would be overrun if they did not receive urgent reinforcements. But the international and Iraqi support that arrived was simply insufficient to hold the city.

Therefore, the prevalent narrative that the Islamic State is destined to decline appears to be false. Rather than suffering from resource and manpower shortages, the group is only increasing its grip on the local populations in its strongholds of Mosul and Raqqa, Syria; it is also attracting a considerable number of recruits, especially among teenagers.

As with the occupation of Mosul, the fall of Ramadi will have a ripple effect across both the Syrian and Iraqi battlefields. In Syria, Iraqi Shiite militias fighting alongside the Assad regime will feel compelled to return to defend their home country, a move that would further undercut the regime’s ability to stop recent rebel advances. There are signs this is already happening: The leader of one Damascus-based militia announced that he was returning to “wounded Iraq.”

The failure to defend Ramadi also sets the stage for increased tensions between Washington and Baghdad over the use of Shiite militias to push back the Islamic State. This is the second time this issue has arisen: In the battle to retake the city of Tikrit, the Iraqi government deployed the Hashd al-Shaabi, an umbrella organization for Iranian-backed Shiite militias, which prompted the United States to refuse to launch airstrikes in support of the offensive until the irregular units withdrew.

The United States reportedly pressured the Iraqi government not to dispatch the Hashd al-Shaabi to Ramadi, insisting that local forces along with the Iraqi Army should fight in the Sunni city. As a result, some Iraqi officials blame the Americans for the fall of the city. With Shiite militias now heading to Anbar en masse to confront the resurgent threat by the Islamic State, the stage seems set for another confrontation with Washington, which fears that the fighters will only stoke sectarian tensions in the largely Sunni province.

Ramadi’s local leaders were instrumental in the U.S.-backed Awakening Councils, which were credited with the demise of al Qaeda in Iraq in 2006 and 2007 and which bravely held out against the Islamic State for the past year. The fall of the city, however, will significantly undercut the U.S. effort to recruit and train Sunni forces to fight the Islamic State.

“After Ramadi, [the Islamic State] will be able to present itself as the only Sunni force standing against the [Shiite] militias,” Wael Essam, a veteran journalist who embedded with the Iraqi insurgency after the war in 2003, told me. “Sunni forces allied with the government have failed to achieve the demands of the Sunni community for nearly a decade. ‘Suleimani Sunnis [a reference to Iranian spymaster Qassem Suleimani],’ as ordinary Sunnis now call them, have become tools to legitimize the government oppression against them.”

Unlike in 2006, when whole Sunni tribes rose up against al Qaeda in Iraq, there are now deep divisions over what to do about the Islamic State. With the fall of Ramadi, tribesmen loyal to the Islamic State will find themselves in a better position to pull their relatives toward their side, citing the failure of pro-government tribal leaders across Anbar.

But the fall of Ramadi will echo far further than just across Anbar.

In Washington, it should be clear that the current U.S. strategy to fight the Islamic State has failed.In Washington, it should be clear that the current U.S. strategy to fight the Islamic State has failed. The White House’s focus on airstrikes in Iraq — while making little progress in training anti-Islamic State Sunni forces in either Syria or Iraq — is allowing the group immense space for planning, maneuvering, and redeployment.


Despite attempts by U.S. officials to downplay the significance of Ramadi’s fall, the development marks a dangerous new phase of the war. The Islamic State seems poised to take new areas despite American firepower and despite Iranian backing of tens of thousands of Shiite and Kurdish forces. The idea that the Islamic State is losing or declining now seems absurd.
 
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Hitler was also democratically elected...

By that lame logic, PKK has every right to do what IS does, doesn't it? Erdogan is also democratically elected, but since PKK may not like him, every single terrorist attack they do is justified. So many silent IS sympathizers, just pathetic. You will go too far and bring many lame excuses to justify animals like ISIS without mentioning the real reason, which is the disease and backwardness hidden in some versions of Islam and that is prone to creating and giving rise to most evil groups on planet earth.
 
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By that lame logic, PKK has every right to do what IS does, doesn't it? So many silent IS sympathizers, just pathetic. You will go too far and bring many lame excuses to justify animals like ISIS.
Lol....like i said your bunch is only good at throwing shıt at people, nothing more.
 
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What do you expect me to say against your slanders ?

I don't expect anything, if you had anything to say, you would have said it already.

You know how pathetic it is to try to find 'favored' excuses for creation of scums like ISIS. Do you know the funnier part? You actually try to 'pretend' you are secular and don't care about sects, but almost every single post of yours proves exactly otherwise.
 
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I think Shia militias gave Abadi an indirect warning: "if you ask us to leave the battlefield because of the west and some spoiled neo-baathists, then good luck with your war". Then Ramadi fell...
 
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I don't expect anything, if you had anything to say, you would have said it already.

You know how pathetic it is to try to find 'favored' excuses for creation of scums like ISIS. Do you know the funnier part? You actually try to 'pretend' you are secular and don't care about sects, but almost every single post of yours proves exactly otherwise.

What i'm saying is Iraq is composed of 3 groups....Kurds, Sunnis, Shias...government represents only shias....

It is not so hard to understand. Problem is not this. You know i'm right at what i'm saying. But you don't like it....so, you are trying to divert the subject by throwing false accusations on me.
 
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What i'm saying is Iraq is composed of 3 groups....Kurds, Sunnis, Shias...government represents only shias....

That's a ridiculous lie. PM is naturally a Shia because Iraq is Shia majority, so almost always, a Shia party wins. President is a Sunni Kurd and head of Parliament is an Arab Sunni. Adding that to many Sunni minsters and high ranking officials. You just don't know enough about Iraq and repeat what is written in mainstream media. Unfortunately many Iraqi members have left, supposedly because of number of terrorist supporters lurking on this forum against their nation, otherwise, they would inform you on this matter.

Saddam oppressed Shias in a much more savage way that no new Iraqi Shia PM would even dream of it, but not only Shias didn't create any 'ISIS-like group', they didn't even form a terrorist group in his era.
 
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That's a ridiculous lie. PM is naturally a Shia because Iraq is Shia majority, so almost always, a Shia party wins. President is a Sunni Kurd and head of Parliament is an Arab Sunni. Adding that to many Sunni minsters and high ranking officials. You just don't know enough about Iraq and repeat what is written in mainstream media. Unfortunately many Iraqi members have left, supposedly because of number of terrorist supporters lurking on this forum against their nation, otherwise, they would inform you on this matter.
I'm following this thread...from day 1. I'm stating what i have seen, learn over hundreds of posts/news/videos/pics.
Figure heads doesn't matter. What matters is the actions of the central government.

Saddam oppressed Shias in a much more savage way that no new Iraqi Shia PM would even dream of it, but not only Shias didn't create any 'ISIS-like group', they didn't even form a terrorist group in his era.
Well.... :D I bet Arab members have lots of answers to this post. :lol:

And, i personally don't care much about who is killing who in the middle-east....as long as Turks are good, that's enough for me.
 
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I'm following this thread...from day 1. I'm stating what i have seen, learn over hundreds of posts/news/videos/pics.
Figure heads doesn't matter. What matters is the actions of the central government.


Well.... :D I bet Arab members have lots of answers to this post. :lol:

And, i personally don't care much about who is killing who in the middle-east....as long as Turks are good, that's enough for me.

MHP! MHP! Haha just kidding. But no, I personally would LOVE for Turkey to influence the ME in a good way. Progressive thoughts, construction of hospitals, schools airports etc, and indeed, the dizi's. All of that makes for a better middle east. This killing each other thing is fu cking overdone. It has to stop ASAP.
 
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