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Iran and Iraq are forming a strengthening alliance inside Opec, raising concerns among moderate Arab Gulf producers like Saudi Arabia and increasing the potential for discord in the oil producers’ group.

With the EU sovereign debt crisis worsening and growing fears for the global economy, the deep divisions within Opec risk undermining the organisation’s ability to do its job of effectively managing oil supply and preventing violent price swings.

A person familiar with the matter said Opec’s meeting in Vienna on Thursday was overshadowed by “strong disagreements” over issues ranging from the acceptable price of oil, to the global supply-demand balance, to who should replace the current secretary general of the organisation.

A particular bone of contention was a proposal by Venezuela – backed by other Opec hardliners like Iran, Iraq and Algeria – that the group should protest against the EU sanctions against Tehran over its nuclear programme. The move was rebuffed by Saudi Arabia and other moderates including Nigeria, Libya and Kuwait, who argued that such protests were the preserve of foreign ministers, not oil ministers.

Riyadh is determined to prevent the group being dragged into Iran’s nuclear standoff with the west, and until Thursday, member states had done a good job of papering over their differences on the issue.

“We have to make sure that Opec remains non-political,” said a Saudi official. “It is a business organisation and politics should be avoided.”

But the latest bust-up shows it could prove increasingly difficult to maintain that neutrality, with the issue of sanctions reinforcing already deep divisions between hardliners Iran, Venezuela and Algeria and moderates like Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies Kuwait and the UAE.

The politicisation of Opec bodes ill for the future. “Oil and politics make a really toxic mix, as we saw with Opec in the 1970s,” said one analyst. He said the rift meant it would be harder for Opec to take “concerted action in the event of a major bout of price weakness”.

The meeting also showed that Iraq has now joined the hardline camp, whose members are clearly co-ordinating their positions on key aspects of Opec policy, the person said. Earlier this month, Rostam Qasemi, Iran’s oil minister, visited Baghdad for talks with Nouri al Maliki, Iraq’s prime minister, and during the visit it was announced that the two had agreed to adopt a unified position on Opec production.

That raised the spectre of an oil alliance between Iran and Iraq, which could challenge Saudi Arabia’s traditional dominance of Opec.

At Thursday’s meeting, Opec ministers agreed to leave their current production ceiling unchanged at 30 million barrels a day. The group’s secretary-general Abdalla El-Badri said members were asked to adhere more strictly to the target, which they now exceed by 1.6 mb/d according to Opec’s own figures.

The meeting took place against the backdrop of a sharp drop in oil prices, from a peak of $128 a barrel in March to below $100 now. Some countries, principally Iran, have said the market is over-supplied and have called on Saudi Arabia to cut production.

But so far the kingdom, worried about the potential effect of high oil prices on an already weakening global economy, shows no inclination to comply. It has been pumping crude at 30-year highs this year in an attempt to bring prices down to $100.

“Saudi Arabia will continue to meet its customers’ needs within the context of a stable and balanced oil market,” the Saudi official said.


Iraq and Iran form alliance within Opec - FT.com

Jion Siamak | June 15 10:00pm | Permalink
Saudi Arabia is Moderate?! the birthplace of Al Qaeda, the home of 9/11 hijackers, the country that supported Saddam Hussein and has annexed Bahrain and has killed scores of Bahrainis. The country, which has set Syria on fire and uses attack helicopters in Yemen and suppresses women and is in bed with Israeli Mossad is Moderate? Whose payroll is Guy Chazan on ?

This comment made by some Jion Siamak completely says it all.
 
lol good for you guys. I love how you wahabis are ejaculatibg over the fact that you have oil lmao

who gives a ****? What else have you done lately other than increase or decrease oil output? And chopping heads off witches in the central square doesn't count.

Iran exports 2 mln barrels of oil/day, saudi arabia exports 8-9 mln/day. In the end, you guys are the ones losing money not us. We have the world's second largest, some say largest, gas reserves on the planet. We will recover the difference from that. Also, we haven't benefited from western tech for the past 32 years so our oil output has been lower than it should have been. So while we've been producing at 4-5 mln barrels a day, KSA has been producing at 9-11 barrels a day for decades. If oil runs out in the region, Iran and Iraq will be the last to run out due to decades of under-production.

But who really cares about this ****. Countries are advancing scientifically and culturally and you wahabis are gloating over the black gold the white man found for you and is digging out of the ground for you. And what do you do with the money? You spent 50-60 bln us dollars on weapons! You spent tens of billions to import food and de-salinize ocean water. That's already close to 100 bln US dollars. A good chunk is now in the pockets of princes and princesses that come by the millions in SA. Another 20-30 billion was sent back to countries like Pakistan and India by the pletora of foreign workers that are all over the country.
 
Iran may not realise it, but Iraq will soon be its biggest economic threat. Iraq's massive investment in its oil industry is paying off as it reaches record levels of oil production where Iran's production has actually been declining due to obsolete equipment, technology etc
 
Iran may not realise it, but Iraq will soon be its biggest economic threat. Iraq's massive investment in its oil industry is paying off as it reaches record levels of oil production where Iran's production has actually been declining due to obsolete equipment, technology etc
Good for Iraq, we're proud of our neighbors and brothers. That will also help our economy. The richer Iraqis get, the more they can buy Iranian goods or even invest in our country. We welcome this.

Thanks again for removing saddam. Our trade has reached historical highs every year since the removal of saddam. I look forward to the day that Iraqis are rich enough to invest in Iran and to also be able to afford all Iranian goods. I'll give an example. Right now, one of the biggest selling cars in Iraq is SAIPA's "pride" model. It's a very inefficient car and bad to have on the roads. I'm hoping to see the day when Iran Khodro plants in Iraq can start churning out Runnas and Denas for the Iraqi market. I also can't wait to see Iraqi car companies to form and start cooperating with Iranian ones which will again benefit both sides.

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Iraqi's better watch out.

Formation of alliance with Iran is OK, but in the process they should not bite the very hand that freed them from the clutches of Saddam.

Destruction of Gaddah-fi (donkey-is) clearly shows that in tribal setup, it is really easy to neutralize one group and put the other group on top.

Sure democracy in Iraq is great, but with freedom comes the responsibility.

other than, I personally do not like the idea of OPEC. They are like mafia controlling the price. high petrol prices are well managed in the developed world. But the third-class world countries such as Pakistan suffer immensely.


peace
 
Iraqi's better watch out.

Formation of alliance with Iran is OK, but in the process they should not bite the very hand that freed them from the clutches of Saddam.

Destruction of Gaddah-fi (donkey-is) clearly shows that in tribal setup, it is really easy to neutralize one group and put the other group on top.

Sure democracy in Iraq is great, but with freedom comes the responsibility.

other than, I personally do not like the idea of OPEC. They are like mafia controlling the price. high petrol prices are well managed in the developed world. But the third-class world countries such as Pakistan suffer immensely.


peace
I had this discussion with a prof of mine last year. Cartels are a life saver for resource rich countries. Look at Africa. They're being raped and taken advantage of by every country, from east to west. The amount of money they've lost by not having cartels that can control the prices of their resources is just MASSIVE. They could all be on their way to development if they had cartels and that would benefit their entire continent and the lives of hundreds of millions.

OPEC isn't Pakistan's problem mate. Iran finished Iran's part of the gas pipeline years ago and has done everything in its power to help pakistan make their part. Your leaders aren't ready to piss off Uncle Sam and finish the project (it will get finished but with much more headache than it had to).

Pakistan also has resources. One day Iran, AFG and Pakistan might start a cartel for some random mineral. All three countries are very mineral rich and they all have vast untapped resources.
 
That's a fair point. But Iran needs some breathing space from the sanctions and international isolation to make it's private sector more amenable to trade, this has not been the case for the last 10 years. However I do see Iran being relieved from the worst of the current sanctions regime within 12 months.
 
FaujHistorian;3060640]Iraqi's better watch out.

LOL wow Iraq better watch out cause the Big Satan House of Saud will Get them oh my God they should just Give up.

Formation of alliance with Iran is OK, but in the process they should not bite the very hand that freed them from the clutches of Saddam.

Guy calling Himself Historian sure cant remember what happened yesterday House of Saud was Saddam allies Not enemy.

Destruction of Gaddah-fi (donkey-is) clearly shows that in tribal setup, it is really easy to neutralize one group and put the other group on top.

No Mr historian Qaddafi was starting to stand up to west and was replaced with the help of Devils in Arabia in process 100 of 100s Muslims Killed not some thing to be proud of and same Tribal change will soon come to occupied Arabia.

Sure democracy in Iraq is great, but with freedom comes the responsibility.

This why Iraqis have chosen to distance them self s from western Puppets.

other than, I personally do not like the idea of OPEC. They are like mafia controlling the price. high petrol prices are well managed in the developed world. But the third-class world countries such as Pakistan suffer immensely.

Wrong again My Historian friend OPEC was created to Get Oil producing nations A better price for their Product but instead again puppets were playing in the hands of west and started playing against their own interest and price of fuel is decided in western future markets not by oil producing nations.


It will be after the fall of house of Saud.
 
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