Iran's Revolutionary Guards Blame Saudi Arabia for Attack on Parliament, Khomeini Shrine

[mike2000 is back]

If it turns hot, you will feel that pinch very fast, hint hint oil prices. Because once a war start, saudis will wave goodbye to their oil facilities. Lets face it, saudis can't do jack to Iran on their own. They're too incompetent. The real question is, to what extent are the Americans willing to join.

Iran can't do much against the SAUDIS as well to be honest. Both sides don't have the capability to defeat the other decisively. It will be just another Iraq-Iran war even without western powers direct intervention.

 

[Rukarl]

Iran can't do much against the SAUDIS as well to be honest. Both sides don't have the capability to defeat the other decisively. It will be just another Iraq-Iran war even without western powers direct intervention.

Don't talk nonsense. Iran could raze them with its huge missile arsenal. Iran has a long arm to reach them, how will they reach Iran? only thing they have is their airforce which would do barely nothing against Iran's airdefences. Iran's air space is simply well too protected which so many different systems.

 

[Asghar1234]

Iran can't do much against the SAUDIS as well to be honest. Both sides don't have the capability to defeat the other decisively. It will be just another Iraq-Iran war even without western powers direct intervention.

Iran was 1000 times weaker during Iran-Iraq war in 36 years.. Comparing now and 36 years ago is not rational at all.

It is like comparing power of Americans in WW1 with WW2.

Nowadays we have missiles that can land beside king salman bed.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Oh really?
Your beloved Abu lulu was a Persian empire soldier who wanted to take revenge from the Muslim caliph who defeated his Persian king. That Muslim caloph was Hazrat Umar.
The Persian empire heritage and pride is embedded in Iranian ideology and they still feel pride for being descendents of biggest enemies of Islam , the Persian empire and from there comes Iranian hate for Arabs, which is now incorporated into Shia faith by House of Khomeini and company.
Abu lulu is a saint in Iran for killing the Muslim caliph who ended Persians. Then Iran claims to be the flag bearer of Islam

Huh.....I think Iranians have the right to be proud of their Persian history and culture, NO? Before the Arabs invaded and brought Islam to the country they had their own history, culture and beliefs. So why insult them for honouring their past culture and Persian heroes?

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Iran can't do much against the SAUDIS as well to be honest. Both sides don't have the capability to defeat the other decisively. It will be just another Iraq-Iran war even without western powers direct intervention.

That is your opinion, or maybe hope. However our view differs. I tell you when it comes to war the eastern parts of arabia will be occupied within months, if not within weeks.

 

[mike2000 is back]

no, we will prevent this war in middle east . you and germans fight in other place .
afghanistan may be good place for this

Turkey doesn't have much say into the Saudi -Iran proxy war debacle in the muslim world. Since the Iranians and Saudis are major leaders and yield tremendous influence on Shiite and Sunnis forces in the region respectively. Turkey is kind of by the sidelines(which i don't think is a bad thing per se), especially with the MB(which Erdogan fully backed) being rooted out in Egypt, struggling in Syria and much of the Arab world. So it's kind of difficult for Turkey to find a role to influence events from both sides.

 

[mangekyo]

You may hate Iranians only because you think all Iranians are Shia... But never forget that the writers of all sahih sunni hadith collections (Kutub al sittah )were of Iranian origin. Arabic grammar rules were made by Iranians. And all founders of sunni schools of fiqh but one (Maliki) were Iranian.

 

[mike2000 is back]

That is your opinion, or maybe hope. However our view differs.

Isn't it. Do tell me how Iran can invade KSA. Iran doesn't have any air force or navy to talk of(which are very critical in taking the war into an adversary's land). How on earth can Iran attack KSA? At best Iran will launch missiles at the Saudis, but that's just about it to be honest.
I think the most realistic thing that can happen will be for both sides to be engaged indirectly through proxies like they have been doing for sometime now, they can merely increase their support for their proxies and intervene more forceful against each other proxies(i.e Iran in Syria and Iraq, and Saudi Arabia in Yemen ).That's about it. Both sides know a direct confrontation or war with each other will be catastrophic for both of them with no clear winner like Iran-Iraq war.
So better to fight till the last proxy.

 

[Safriz]

You will receive a slap harder than umar received from nationalist Iranians, worser than the mongols did with abbasid caliphate and worser if you try to harm our fellow Iranians for the grave of the cursed one.
Be warned kid, you're insulting to many Iranian members here, time and history and future are way greater than 40 years. It's something without beginning and without end, your semi-god legacy is only 38 years. Your over-pride will end up bad for you one day. Try to be humble.

O really boy? You are that brave?
Your Abu Lallu Was a coward. He pretended to be a Muslim and remained hiding among Muslims. Tten attacked our great Sahabi Hazrat Umer from behind while he was in prayer.
If Your hero was brave he would have challenged Hazrat Umer and fought him like a man. But he was a coward.

 

[AmirPatriot]

lol this thread

 

[saiyan0321]

Good lord. Why are Pakistani posters here? Ridiculous. This is an Arab-iran thing and does not concern us and like it or not our government is not interested in taking sides either especially considering how much we spoke for Iran in front of the Saudis for their coalition.

Anyhow as for three pages of useless and offtopic rubbish. @Icarus @waz @Serpentine @The Eagle

I gotta say @Asghar1234 has remained relatively calm in this farce. Plz also take action against those that have a sick desire to relieve themselves on grave of Khomeini. Unbelievable.

I have reported some to bring it to attention and quite frankly a poster baited this useless discussion.

A thread about how Iran blames Saudi for the sad incident and somehow abu lulu makes an entrance. Ridiculous doesn't even cover the discussion. Need cleaning.

As for the thread. I hate to say it but the world doesn't care sadly. Iran is vilified and whether you agree with the vilification or not is another topic but the fact is that iran is vilified so any evidence no matter how concrete it may present against the Saudis or a GCC it won't matter bcz the world simply wouldn't listen nor care. Its sad and unfair but that's how the world works.

Hopefully the Iranian internal intelligence will make sure such incidents don't repeat and dismantle such groups who are finding spaces in Iran.

The Muslim world seriously needs to get their act together and stop fighting amongst each other. Knives to the throat of our own brethren when the world laughs at our faces.


One thing is for sure. We must not be dragged into this rubbish. Steer clear and keep saying we are willing to mediate.

 

[Rukarl]

Isn't it. Do tell me how Iran can invade KSA. Iran doesn't have any air force or navy to talk of(which are very critical in taking the war into an adversary's land). How on earth can Iran attack KSA? At best Iran will launch missiles at the Saudis, but that's just about it to be honest.

You obviously seem to know jack about warfare. All Iran needs to is wipe their strategic facilities i.e oil, electric etc with its missile then their country is paralysed. No need for airforce or even a navy. Don't take my word for it, here listen to the Israeli missile expert Uzi Rubin:

You people are on a defence forum but know jack about defence topic it seems.

 

[mangekyo]

Isn't it. Do tell me how Iran can invade KSA. Iran doesn't have any air force or navy to talk of(which are very critical in taking the war into an adversary's land). How on earth can Iran attack KSA? At best Iran will launch missiles at the Saudis, but that's just about it to be honest.
I think the most realistic thing that can happen will be for both sides to be engaged indirectly through proxies like they have been doing for sometime now, they can merely increase their support for their proxies and intervene more forceful against each other proxies(i.e Iran in Syria and Iraq, and Saudi Arabia in Yemen ).That's about it. Both sides know a direct confrontation or war with each other will be catastrophic for both of them with no clear winner like Iran-Iraq war.
So better to fight till the last proxy.

Iran cant and never will attack SA, Saudis could just place missiles next to kaaba and Iran would never risk hitting the holiest site in Islam. Also one cant overlook that Israel and US would use such an opportunity to attack and destabilise Iran.

But I am 100% sure Iran would NEVER go down without taking Israel and all of GCC down with it,

 

[mike2000 is back]

Iran was 1000 times weaker during Iran-Iraq war in 36 years.. Comparing now and 36 years ago is not rational at all.

It is like comparing power of Americans in WW1 with WW2.

Nowadays we have missiles that can land beside king salman bed.

I think most countries in the region were weaker 36years ago than today not just Iran. Moreover, Iran 36years ago wasn't weak compared to its neighbours. If anything Iran had one of the most powerful military in the region with some of the most advanced U.S/western equipment in its inventory(especially the Iranian air force), something which greatly helped Iranian forces during the war and inflicted heavy losses on the Iraqis.

 

[Rukarl]

Iran cant and never will attack SA, Saudis could just place missiles next to kaaba and Iran would never risk hitting the holiest site in Islam.

These scenarios are so ludicrous that I don't how if I should cry or laugh. What on earth are you mumbling about? what saudi missiles? Iran could raze saudi arabia with ease. They only factor to consider here is US and to what extent they would get involved.