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If they Israeli's think they can bomb Gaza to soften it up for invasion, they are painfully wrong. Hampering their armour support due to excessive debris would make for costly infantry on infantry battle, with house to house fighting too close for use of artillery or airstrikes. Israel may enter with their army, but they won't be able to raise another army again.
Gaza will be destroyed in full, but if Iran and the axis makes the correct move. Israel will be forever disabled until it decays and dies through population exodus.
People should note this is not the old war of 2021 or the ones previous that will end in 10 days or 1 month, this is a massive war, that will go on for a while and the risk of conflagration is at an all time high. Dangerous days ahead.
Gaza will be destroyed in full, but if Iran and the axis makes the correct move. Israel will be forever disabled until it decays and dies through population exodus.
People should note this is not the old war of 2021 or the ones previous that will end in 10 days or 1 month, this is a massive war, that will go on for a while and the risk of conflagration is at an all time high. Dangerous days ahead.
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When Assad did sieges they all called him a “butcher”. When Israel does its, “they have to show Force and eliminate the threat”.
When Syria and Iran did this they called “de-Sunnization and forced removal of Sunni people”, but when US and Israel do it, it’s called “safe passage”.
I have doubts about IDF ground forces, they shown terrible in 2006, but also recently crashed their own tank into a truck killing one them and requiring a crane to put the tank back on its trailer. I do not know if IDF soldiers are battle hardened as all resumes to IAF.
This is going to cost a lot of IDF lives imo, but the questions that raises is how Hamas could down these gunships which are just dreams for manpads, Israel makes intense use of Apache helicopters
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There goes US reputation.... Thank you babykiller Isisrael, you really did well, US citizen will be very happy.
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Happened again today. Once is an accident, twice is incompetence.
Battle hardened from what? Shooting press reporters and kids? All they do is glorified SWAT meets traffic police.
Last land invasion of Gaza was 2014 and last real war was 2006. That means outside of some career soldiers none of these reservists/boots on the ground have been in war.
That’s the thing with Western militaries (Israel included) they have learned to rely on Air Force + CAS to do the heavy lifting. Look what happened in Ukraine when that wasn’t there. Every weekend warrior former western soldier who went to Ukraine either left quickly or was killed. They even said that they have never been in such setting where the enemy is the one dropping the bombs and artillery strikes are hitting their positions non stop.
The average soldier in a Western is screwed if he doesn’t have an Air Force and CAS (helicopters/A-10/AC-130/drones) leading the way for them alongside massive amounts of tanks.
Russia/China/Iran should take notes and learn to devise a plan that takes this weakness into account. The key is eliminating the birds in the air.
They don’t have many manpads. Supposedly Hamas mastermind Deif built this plan two years ago, but his critical flaw was not accounting for birds in the air. Based on what Patarames posted the makeshift air defense systems they have is basically attaching proximity fuses to unguided rockets and using them as pseudo flak guns.
The only way manpads could have been helpful would have been of each squad that was infiltrating had 1 or 2 members that were posted out of sight with manpads at the ready aiming at the horizon. With manpads you have to be in the right place and right time and act quick.
If manpads can bring down K-52 with its defense system, then they can easily bring down old Apaches.
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If this happened to Iran when it was transporting large number of equipment over long distances to the North West or to Central Isfahan for drills, imagine what the haters would say. It never did though, but it happened to them twice now.
Iran and the others didn't even mentioned Israel attacking the academy nor provided any evidence whatsoever. And the U.S. entered while ISIS was still successfully invading and taking territory, not waiting long time until ISIS was losing. Don't resort to that.
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They aren't necessarily required to do so for an analyst to be able to connect dots. Beyond the terrorist attack against the military academy, provocations and escalations by the zio-American empire against the Resistance Axis have been plentiful over the past decade. Retaliation was due.
Western regimes entered the scene when the Iranian-led Resistance was successfully moving to drive "I"SIS back. This is an established chronological fact. Iran and allies were first to battle "I"SIS.
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Uh yeah sure.
Operation Inherent Resolve - Wikipedia
On 15 June 2014, U.S. President Barack Obama ordered United States forces to be dispatched in response to the Northern Iraq offensive (June 2014) of the Islamic State (IS) as part of Operation Inherent Resolve. At the invitation of the Iraqi government, American troops went to assess Iraqi forces and the threat posed by ISIL.[111][third-party source needed]
In early August 2014, ISIL began its Northern Iraq offensive.[112] On 5 August, the United States started supplying the Kurdish Peshmerga forces with weapons.[113] On 8 August, the United States began airstrikes against ISIL positions in Iraq. Nine other countries also launched airstrikes against ISIL, more or less in concert with Kurdish and Iraqi government ground troops.[114][115] By December 2017, ISIL had no remaining territory in Iraq, following the 2017 Western Iraq campaign.[28]
In addition to direct military intervention, the American-led coalition provided extensive support to the Iraqi Security Forces via training, intelligence, and personnel. The total cost of coalition support to the ISF, excluding direct military operations, was officially announced at ~$3.5 billion by March 2019.[116] 189,000 Iraqi soldiers and police officers received training from coalition forces.[117]
Despite U.S. objections, the Iraqi parliament demanded U.S. troops to withdraw in January 2020 following the deaths of Iraqi Deputy chief of the Popular Mobilization Units and popular Iranian Quds leader Qasem Soleimeni in a U.S. airstrike.[118][119] It was also announced that both the U.K and Germany were cutting the size of troops in Iraq as well,[120] In addition to withdrawing some of its troops, the U.K. pledged to completely withdraw from Iraq if asked to do so by the Iraqi government and Germany "temporarily thinned out" its bases in Baghdad and Camp Taji.[121][122] Canada later joined in with the coalition withdrawal as well by transferring some of its troops stationed in Iraq to Kuwait.[121] French and Australian forces stationed in the country have also objected to a withdrawal as well.[123][124] The United Nations estimated in August 2020 that over 10,000 ISIL fighters remained in Iraq and Syria.[125]
Timeline: the Rise, Spread, and Fall of the Islamic State
At its height, the Islamic State - also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh - held about a third of Syria and 40 percent of Iraq. By December 2017 it had lost 95 percent of its territory, including its two biggest properties, Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, and the northern Syrian city of Raqqa...
The group changed its name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2013. ISIS launched an offensive on Mosul and Tikrit in June 2014. On June 29, ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi announced the formation of a caliphate stretching from Aleppo in Syria to Diyala in Iraq, and renamed the group the Islamic State.
A U.S.-led coalition began airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq on August 7, 2014, and expanded the campaign to Syria the following month. On October 15, the United States named the campaign “Operation Inherent Resolve.” Over the next year, the United States conducted more than 8,000 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria. ISIS suffered key losses along Syria’s border with Turkey, and by the end of 2015, Iraqi forces had made progress in recapturing Ramadi. But in Syria, ISIS made gains near Aleppo, and still firmly held Raqqa and other strongholds.
In 2015, ISIS expanded into a network of affiliates in at least eight other countries. Its branches, supporters, and affiliates increasingly carried out attacks beyond the borders of its so-called caliphate. In October, ISIS’s Egypt affiliate bombed a Russian airplane, killing 224 people. On November 13, 130 people were killed and more than 300 injured in a series of coordinated attacks in Paris. And in June 2016, a gunman who pledged support to ISIS killed at least four dozen people at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida.
By December 2017, the ISIS caliphate had lost 95 percent of its territory, including its two biggest properties, Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, and the northern Syrian city of Raqqa, its nominal capital. The Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al Abadi declared victory over the Islamic State in Iraq on December 9, 2017. But ISIS was still inspiring and carrying out attacks all over the world, including New York City.
In 2018, the focus of the campaign against ISIS shifted to eastern Syria, where a U.S.-backed coalition of Syrian Kurds and Arabs known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) gradually captured key ISIS positions. The SDF briefly suspended its offensive in November 2018 after Turkish attacks on Kurdish positions diverted its attention. On December 14, the SDF captured the town of Hajin. Hajin’s fall reduced ISIS territory to a few villages along the Euphrates River near the Iraqi border.
On December 19, 2018, President Donald Trump declared that ISIS was defeated and signaled his intention to withdraw all 2,000 U.S. troops supporting the SDF in Syria. But the SDF continued its offensive and in February 2019 launched the final siege on ISIS forces in Baghouz, the last holdout. Baghouz fell on March 23, 2019, formally ending the caliphate’s claim to any territory. The mass surrender of ISIS fighters and their families illustrated the lingering challenge: how to deal with jihadists to forestall its transformation into an insurgency in Iraq and Syria. The Baghdadi era of ISIS ended on October 26, 2019, when the leader was killed in a U.S. raid in northern Syria. The following is a timeline of the rise, spread and fall of the Islamic State.
The coalition officially concluded its combat mission in Iraq in December 2021, but U.S. troops remain in Iraq to advise, train, and assist Iraqi security forces against the ongoing ISIL insurgency, including providing air support and military aid.[32][33]
How? Hamas lost many of their own in the raids and now have to resort to killing the hostages if Israel keeps on bombing. Doubt Israel will even stop even if Hamas went through their threat to execute them. Just embolden Israel to do more bombings if videos of hostages getting executed, especially women and children.
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Uh yeah sure.
Operation Inherent Resolve - Wikipedia
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On 15 June 2014, U.S. President Barack Obama ordered United States forces to be dispatched in response to the Northern Iraq offensive (June 2014) of the Islamic State (IS) as part of Operation Inherent Resolve. At the invitation of the Iraqi government, American troops went to assess Iraqi forces and the threat posed by ISIL.[111][third-party source needed]
In early August 2014, ISIL began its Northern Iraq offensive.[112] On 5 August, the United States started supplying the Kurdish Peshmerga forces with weapons.[113] On 8 August, the United States began airstrikes against ISIL positions in Iraq. Nine other countries also launched airstrikes against ISIL, more or less in concert with Kurdish and Iraqi government ground troops.[114][115] By December 2017, ISIL had no remaining territory in Iraq, following the 2017 Western Iraq campaign.[28]
In addition to direct military intervention, the American-led coalition provided extensive support to the Iraqi Security Forces via training, intelligence, and personnel. The total cost of coalition support to the ISF, excluding direct military operations, was officially announced at ~$3.5 billion by March 2019.[116] 189,000 Iraqi soldiers and police officers received training from coalition forces.[117]
Despite U.S. objections, the Iraqi parliament demanded U.S. troops to withdraw in January 2020 following the deaths of Iraqi Deputy chief of the Popular Mobilization Units and popular Iranian Quds leader Qasem Soleimeni in a U.S. airstrike.[118][119] It was also announced that both the U.K and Germany were cutting the size of troops in Iraq as well,[120] In addition to withdrawing some of its troops, the U.K. pledged to completely withdraw from Iraq if asked to do so by the Iraqi government and Germany "temporarily thinned out" its bases in Baghdad and Camp Taji.[121][122] Canada later joined in with the coalition withdrawal as well by transferring some of its troops stationed in Iraq to Kuwait.[121] French and Australian forces stationed in the country have also objected to a withdrawal as well.[123][124] The United Nations estimated in August 2020 that over 10,000 ISIL fighters remained in Iraq and Syria.[125]
The Islamic State – also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh – emerged from the remnants of al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), a local offshoot of al Qaeda founded by Abu Musab al Zarqawi in 2004. It faded into obscurity for several years after the surge of U.S. troops to Iraq in 2007. But it began to reemerge in 2011. Over the next few years, it took advantage of growing instability in Iraq and Syria to carry out attacks and bolster its ranks.Timeline: the Rise, Spread, and Fall of the Islamic State
At its height, the Islamic State - also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh - held about a third of Syria and 40 percent of Iraq. By December 2017 it had lost 95 percent of its territory, including its two biggest properties, Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, and the northern Syrian city of Raqqa...www.wilsoncenter.org
The group changed its name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2013. ISIS launched an offensive on Mosul and Tikrit in June 2014. On June 29, ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi announced the formation of a caliphate stretching from Aleppo in Syria to Diyala in Iraq, and renamed the group the Islamic State.
A U.S.-led coalition began airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq on August 7, 2014, and expanded the campaign to Syria the following month. On October 15, the United States named the campaign “Operation Inherent Resolve.” Over the next year, the United States conducted more than 8,000 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria. ISIS suffered key losses along Syria’s border with Turkey, and by the end of 2015, Iraqi forces had made progress in recapturing Ramadi. But in Syria, ISIS made gains near Aleppo, and still firmly held Raqqa and other strongholds.
In 2015, ISIS expanded into a network of affiliates in at least eight other countries. Its branches, supporters, and affiliates increasingly carried out attacks beyond the borders of its so-called caliphate. In October, ISIS’s Egypt affiliate bombed a Russian airplane, killing 224 people. On November 13, 130 people were killed and more than 300 injured in a series of coordinated attacks in Paris. And in June 2016, a gunman who pledged support to ISIS killed at least four dozen people at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida.
By December 2017, the ISIS caliphate had lost 95 percent of its territory, including its two biggest properties, Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, and the northern Syrian city of Raqqa, its nominal capital. The Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al Abadi declared victory over the Islamic State in Iraq on December 9, 2017. But ISIS was still inspiring and carrying out attacks all over the world, including New York City.
In 2018, the focus of the campaign against ISIS shifted to eastern Syria, where a U.S.-backed coalition of Syrian Kurds and Arabs known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) gradually captured key ISIS positions. The SDF briefly suspended its offensive in November 2018 after Turkish attacks on Kurdish positions diverted its attention. On December 14, the SDF captured the town of Hajin. Hajin’s fall reduced ISIS territory to a few villages along the Euphrates River near the Iraqi border.
On December 19, 2018, President Donald Trump declared that ISIS was defeated and signaled his intention to withdraw all 2,000 U.S. troops supporting the SDF in Syria. But the SDF continued its offensive and in February 2019 launched the final siege on ISIS forces in Baghouz, the last holdout. Baghouz fell on March 23, 2019, formally ending the caliphate’s claim to any territory. The mass surrender of ISIS fighters and their families illustrated the lingering challenge: how to deal with jihadists to forestall its transformation into an insurgency in Iraq and Syria. The Baghdadi era of ISIS ended on October 26, 2019, when the leader was killed in a U.S. raid in northern Syria. The following is a timeline of the rise, spread and fall of the Islamic State.
The coalition officially concluded its combat mission in Iraq in December 2021, but U.S. troops remain in Iraq to advise, train, and assist Iraqi security forces against the ongoing ISIL insurgency, including providing air support and military aid.[32][33]
Demagogy from regime-affiliated USA propaganda sources.
Reality is this:
https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/...ion_docs/INTA91_1_01_Esfandiary_Tabatabai.pdf
"I"SIS was a strategic tool of NATO and zionist policy to destabilize the Axis of Resistance, uproot and tear the social fabric in West Asia and facilitate revision of regional borders inherited from the Sykes-Picot agreement, the ultimate goal being generalized "ethno"-sectarian balkanization of nation-states as per the Bernard Lewis, Oded Yinon and Ralph Peters plans and in accordance with "constructive chaos" theories prevalent in Washington establishment circles.
"I"SIS had fulfilled its mission in part when the Resistance reorganized to launch a counter-offensive in the summer of 2014. That's when a panicked USA jumped in to prevent the Resistance from regaining all "I"SIS-occupied territories, else it would have lost its foothold in Iraq and Syria.
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