Again you get it wrong .the ones mentioned in the article are actually receiving the treatment they were going to receive if they were sent to their respective wards . They just receive it in wrong ward and so emergency ward get crowded and had to add extra bed to receive new patients.
And please represent fact correctly the exact same problem exist in university hospitals here and I put out one example from Tehran university . Every one can go and see emergency ward 2 of imam Khomeini hospital
The article talks about:
- Hospitals having patients pile up due to a
lack of rooms. A structural deficiency of the healthcare system. No excuse for such horrendous mismanagement in the wealthiest country on earth, and one of the most developed ones too.
- Over 10% of emergency patients
leaving without care in the hardest hit hospitals. The sickest having to wait 9 to 10 hours for a bed. Patients forced to spend nights in hallways under bright lights.
- Chronic personnel shortages. Nurses crushed under the weight of a
profit-driven staffing crisis. In emergency wards, a single nurse is often asked to cover ten patients including critically ill waiting for an ICU bed.
- Patients with brain bleeds, hip fractures, and even necrotizing genital infections being treated in the
waiting room because there are no rooms or even hallway beds available in the emergency department.
- Patients
dying in the waiting room of the emergency department because they had to wait for hours to see a physician. This is all happening inside emergency wards and victims are people who received no medical care.
- Hospitals prioritizing beds for surgical patients
who bring in more money, and failing to leave a buffer of open rooms available for predictable surges of emergency cases. In other terms, patients dying because privately owned hospitals want to make more profit.
So what if the reason for the above is that patients are retained and accumulated at emergency wards because specialized departments they need to be transferred to are lacking beds? Does it somehow excuse those deaths? This is without mentioning that the article enumerates not one but several different causes leading to the issue.
To recapitulate: you explained that some patients passed away in Iran as a result of doctors being overburdened with work and not having time to examine them thoroughly enough. To this I responded with the article in question.
Now you're trying to split hairs by focusing on the reasons for emergency department overcrowding. What difference does it make when at the end of the day people are dying in western hospitals for lack of adequate care?
And again in your second part of the post you represented your misunderstanding of the article . The patients in the article are not dying because they receive no treatment.
Yes they are. As mentioned in the article:
Multiple physicians shared stories of patients dying in the waiting room because the ED was so overwhelmed, they had to wait for hours to see a physician.
But since you seem keen on brushing aside the terrible conditions witnessed at emergency wards in different countries of the west, here's a random example of the type of case under discussion:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/patie...-new-brunswick-emergency-department-1.5987414
Patient dies while waiting hours to be seen in New Brunswick emergency department
Published July 14, 2022 4:09 p.m. CEST
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He said the man appeared to be in a lot of pain and discomfort as he waited for hours in a wheelchair but eventually appeared to fall asleep.
( ... )
"I think there needs to be a really long, hard look at what we've had in place for health care. Why are people dying in the waiting rooms? I saw people leave the emergency room without being seen because they were frustrated with the long wait time," he said.
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In other terms, people passing away at the emergency departments of Canadian hospitals because after hours of wait, nobody came to treat them. It doesn't get more explicit than this.
And there are plenty such cases, just picked a random one among innumerable search results.
And again in third part you made a generalized assumption and made an statement about all western countries and all jobs without providing evidences for all those countries and all those jobs
No I mentioned a readily observable reality. Work intensity is not precisely quantified and there are no statistics to cite, so 'evidence' here will be limited to empirical observation. In this regard, my comparative outlook tends to be relatively well informed, not least because it includes testimonies from multiple persons having worked both in Iran and in different western countries across a variety of branches.
As an illustration I could actually reference you, because among the physicians I've known in Europe (they're quite a few), literally not a single one has had as much time on their hands (including during work hours) to comment on an internet forum.
