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Manteghe Iranihaye inja:

1- Amrika? Amrika asan adadi hast be ma hamle kone? Age Amrika hamle kone kolle naavgane panjom ro ghargh mikonim, hameye sarbazaye amrika ro asir mikonim, hameye paygahashoon ro mizanim, hameye chahhaye nafto gas ro mizanim. Naft mishe boshkeyi 200 dollar. Amrika jorat nadare ba ma bejange. Kolle eghtesade jahan nabood mishe bekhatere ma.

2- Turkiye? Taliban? Cheghadr ehsasi barkhord mikoni. Dava chera? Bezar har kari mikhan bokonan. Ma strategy boland moddat darim. LOL

Khodetoonam midoonid zooretoon nemirese faghat too in moredaye dovvom chon vaghean jang mishe mitarsid amma to morede avval chon midoonid Amrika hamle bokon nist haar mishid
 
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Instructions for polite communication in the USAF. LOL
 
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The problem with this is that we have a stable and working relationship with Turkey
economic relationship mainly.
not the best but still Iran and Turkey are benefitting from each other.
ok
Iran's relationship with Azerbaijan is at a lower level compared to the one with Turkey but still no open enmity.
true
I do not think making enemies out of Turkey and Azarbaijan is a good idea
Iran didnt make enemies of them, they made enemies of Iran, esp. Azerbaijan by inviting and hosting IDF and MOssad in Azerbaijan territory right close to Iran.
especially with the Zionist scum waiting for the opportunity.
But opportunity or risk for Iran? If its Risk waiting and delaying usually comes with few advantages.
Direct all the energy towards the Zionists, they are safe sitting and stoking tensions waiting for us to fight each other.
that is a separate theater with its own timing...doing so could also bring the wrong attention to Syria and LEbanon or at the wrong time..
Do not fall for their trap.
yup, but Iran wont in general - national trap and national risk look similar, but they're different
 
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But as far as Armenian president continues his weak policy Iran should not intervene. I feel that the political leaders of Armenia expect others to fight for them because they dont believe in their own spirit.
Iran should not go into confict for a nation wich is not willing to fight for themselves.

Agreed, but with the nuance introduced by user jauk: if Azarbaijan seizes Armenian territory bordering Iran, then Iran will have to intervene.

Of course, even then support to Armenian forces would be preferable over direct military action. However as you highlighted the current western- and zionist-friendly administration in Yerevan is not interested in confronting Baku (perhaps this treasonous passivity is part of an assignment it received from Washington and Tel Aviv).

This leads me to elaborate on my previous explanations as to how Iran could proceed (point 1 of my post in question - short- to mid-term solutions). Iran should lend support to the Armenian opposition, and do so with plausible deniability. If there is a serious move to topple Pashinyan and replace him with a more patriotic, less NATO-subservient figure, Iran ought to back it.

Secondly, if Azarbaijan really dares to occupy Zangezur and if the present administration in Yerevan stays in power, Iran could set up a non-state Armenian resistance movement. Armenians, including in the diaspora, have a history of non-state militantism, as exemplified by the ASALA (Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia). And there's no lack of Armenians fed up with the current government's defeatism.

The resistance formation Iran could help build would not engage in terrorism but fight a regular guerilla war against Baku regime forces in a hypothetically occupied Zangezur. Complete with the absolute best weaponry, intelligence, logistics and training Iran may offer. As well as a perfect safe haven on Iranian soil to retreat to after relentless, around the clock hit and run attacks.

Thirdly, Iran should not miss the opportunity to inform the Armenian public about the zionist regime's deep involvement in propping up and arming the Baku regime, and insist on this aspect. While also underscoring Pashinyan's zionist-friendly leanings, and asking what good it did to allow a zionist "embassy" in Yerevan, since Tel Aviv hasn't stopped throwing its weight behind Baku's expansionist policy to the detriment of Armenia. The Armenian opposition ought to be encouraged to adopt a similar discourse.



New country just dropped! Lion and Sun flag Imao

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This is actually not to be taken lightly.

What is an Iranian national symbol doing on the "flag" devised by Azarbaijan Republic nationalists for the Zangezur corridor they dream of occupying?

Read between the lines: this is a signal to the exiled anti-IR opposition, namely monarchists and MKO, and part of a broad policy to enlist their support for Baku's endeavour, which ultimately aims at separating Azari-speaking regions from Iran herself.

The fingerprints of the zionist regime and NATO are all over this, as it's them who are not just actively sponsoring every single one of Iran's enemies, but have actively been working to connect these assorted enemies and oppositionists with each other. They made them coordinate their actions.

By the way, as you can see Baku regime forces have not quite taken the border zone with Iran, so the Islamic Republic did well to hold back so far. Hopefully this may serve as an inspiration not to judge all too quickly, and to be confident in the Iranian Leadership's wisdom and competence.



This by far exceeds any threat Israel poses to Iran. Former Iranian empires had a centuries-old tradition of going to war with the Romans for changes happening on Armenia's plateau - with a reason.

Tel Aviv is the driving force and mastermind behind anti-Iranian Azari separatism. Isra"el" is also the main source of cutting edge weaponry for the so-called Republic of Azarbaijan. The threat emanating from Baku can't therefore be fully appreciated without taking into account the zionist factor.

More details can be found in the following post:


But the zionist regime does not restrict itself to supporting Azari separatism against Iran. It is also involved with Kurdish separatists, Arab separatists eyeing Khuzestan and others.

Moreover, zionist- and western-sponsored media are the forefront of a very extensive campaign to make the "ethnic" disintegration of Iran theacceptable to Iranian people themselves, by promoting the notion of an "ethnicity"-based federalization of the Iranian polity.

These same western and zionist powers have also directed the exiled anti-IR opposition they bankroll (shahis, MKO, secular nationalists, liberal democrats, leftists etc) to endorse this extremely dangerous agenda. Hence Reza Pahlavi's regular meetings with separatists oppositionists and so on.

Tel Aviv and NATO remain in pole position of the existential threats Iran is facing, since they are the ones pulling the strings of hostile client states in Iran's vicinity, as well as of separatist opposition and terrorist grouplets.
 
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This is correct but with the nuance introduced by user jauk: if Azarbaijan seizes Armenian territory bordering Iran, then Iran will have to intervene.

Of course, even then support to Armenian forces would be preferable over direct military action. However as you highlighted the current western- and zionist-friendly administration in Yerevan is a defeatist one that is not interested in confronting Baku (perhaps this treasonous passivity is part of an assignment it received from Washington and Tel Aviv).

This leads me to elaborate on my previous explanations as to how Iran could proceed (point 1) of my post in question - short- to mid-term solutions). Iran should lend support to the Armenian opposition, and do so with plausible deniability. If there is a serious move to topple Pashinyan and replace him with a more patriotic, less NATO-subservient figure, Iran ought to back it.

Secondly, if Azarbaijan really dares to occupy Zangezur and if the present administration in Yerevan stays in power, Iran could set up a non-state Armenian resistance movement. Armenians, including in the diaspora, have a history of non-state militantism, as exemplified by the ASALA group (Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia). And there's no lack of Armenians fed up with the current government's defeatism.

The resistance formation Iran could help to build would not engage in terrorism but fight a regular guerilla war against Baku regime forces in a hypothetically occupied Zangezur. Complete with the best weaponry, intelligence, logistics and training Iran may offer. As well as a perfect safe haven on Iranian soil to retreat to after hit and run attacks.

Thirdly, Iran should not miss the opportunity to inform the Armenian public about the deep zionist involvement in propping up and arming the Baku regime, and insist on this aspect above all. While also underscoring Pashinyan's zionist-friendly leanings, and asking what good it did to allow a zionist "embassy" in Yerevan, since Tel Aviv hasn't stopped throwing its weight behind Baku's expansionist policy to the detriment of Armenia. The Armenian opposition ought to be encouraged to adopt this line of discourse.





This is actually not to be taken lightly.

What is an Iranian national symbol doing on the "flag" devised by Azarbaijan Republic nationalists for the Zangezur corridor they dream of occupying?

Read between the lines: this is a signal to the exiled anti-IR opposition, namely monarchists and MKO, and part of a broad policy to enlist their support for Baku's endeavour, which ultimately aims at separating Azari-speaking regions from Iran herself.

The fingerprints of the zionist regime and NATO are all over this, as it's them who are actively sponsoring every single one of Iran's enemies, and have been actively working to connect these assorted enemies and oppositionists with each other, and make them coordinate their actions.

By the way, as you can see Baku regime forces have not quite taken the border zone with Iran, so the Islamic Republic did well to hold back so far. Hopefully this may serve as an inspiration not to judge all too quickly, and to be confident in the Iranian Leadership's wisdom and competence.





Tel Aviv is the driving force and mastermind behind anti-Iranian Azari separatism. Isra"el" is also the main source of cutting edge weaponry for the so-called Republic of Azarbaijan. The threat emanating from Baku can't therefore be fully appreciated without taking into account the zionist factor.

More details can be found in the following post:


But the zionist regime does not restrict itself to supporting Azari separatism against Iran. It is also involved with Kurdish separatists, Arab separatists eyeing Khuzestan and others.

Moreover, zionist- and western-sponsored media are the forefront of a very extensive campaign to make the "ethnic" disintegration of Iran theacceptable to Iranian people themselves, by promoting the notion of an "ethnicity"-based federalization of the Iranian polity.

These same western and zionist powers have also directed the exiled anti-IR opposition they bankroll (shahis, MKO, secular nationalists, liberal democrats, leftists etc) to endorse this extremely dangerous agenda. Hence Reza Pahlavi's regular meetings with separatists oppositionists and so on.

Tel Aviv and NATO remain in pole position of the existential threats Iran is facing, since they are the ones pulling the strings of hostile client states in Iran's vicinity as well as of separatist opposition and terrorist grouplets.
Only answer is direct and full military intervention plus testing a nuclear bomb at the same time. If Pashiniyan is a passive receiver... we'll move into nakhchivan. If Baku zionist regime doesnt give up, we'll move into Talysh region and create a separatist republic there or we'll add them to Iran. The coast of Caspian up to Baku should also be a target. Missiles shall rain upon the zionist thugs in Baku.

Some are panicking and want to create problems for Iran before we become full member of SCO, BRICS, EAEU and create nuke. All these could happen in 1-2 year, and that's why they want to invite Iran into a war.
 
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Read between the lines: this is a signal to the exiled anti-IR opposition, namely monarchists and MKO, and part of a broad policy to enlist their support for Baku's endeavour, which ultimately aims at separating Azari-speaking regions from Iran herself.
I think this might be more about their claims regarding the Safavid Dynasty. They are so full of forgery, they believe that part of history is theirs

By the way, as you can see Baku regime forces have not quite taken the border zone with Iran, so the Islamic Republic did well to hold back so far. Hopefully this may serve as an inspiration not to judge all too quickly, and to be confident in the Iranian Leadership's wisdom and competence
True, but this may only be the beginning.
 
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A lot of talk has been made of Russian SU-34’s being shot down.

Here is why:

Lack of PGM’s is forcing them to very low altitude. Much easier to hit even with a manpad let alone a capable air defense system. Also less reaction time for pilot to start evasive actions


This is basically SU-25/A-10 warthog altitude.
 
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Only answer is direct and full military intervention plus testing a nuclear bomb at the same time. If Pashiniyan is a passive receiver... we'll move into nakhchivan. If Baku zionist regime doesnt give up, we'll move into Talysh region and create a separatist republic there or we'll add them to Iran. The coast of Caspian up to Baku should also be a target. Missiles shall rain upon the zionist thugs in Baku.

Some are panicking and want to create problems for Iran before we become full member of SCO, BRICS, EAEU and create nuke. All these could happen in 1-2 year, and that's why they want to invite Iran into a war.
Iran should not partake in a change in doctorine (invasion/ land offensives on another country) if it does not possess a large nuclear arsenal that can sheild it fromt attack.

Simply put, if Russia did not have a large nuclear weapons stockpile, they would be giving Ukrainians 500km missiles and target Moscow, and/or NATO would directly attack Russia inside Ukraine and try to push them out similar to a Kuwait scenario. The only reason Russia is not getting hit from all sides, is cause of their nukes. Plain and simple

A lot of talk has been made of Russian SU-34’s being shot down.

Here is why:

Lack of PGM’s is forcing them to very low altitude. Much easier to hit even with a manpad let alone a capable air defense system. Also less reaction time for pilot to start evasive actions

A country without PGMs should not be considered a super power. Even we have small diameter glide bombs.
 
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A country without PGMs should not be considered a super power. Even we have small diameter glide bombs. them.

It’s inventory issue. Iran likely suffers same fate.

For example, Russia runs 300 sorties each day. Let’s say hypothetically Each sortie they drop only one bomb (likely way more) That’s 300 PGMs per day in a single month that’s 9000 PGMs at the low end.

Does Iran have 9000 qaem missiles for their drones? Does Iran have 9000 Qased or qadr bombs for their jets? How many Phoenix missiles does Iran have for their F-14’s?

The issue for these countries on smaller budgets (Russia $60B and Iran $15-20B) is certain types of inventories are not massive like a USA or China with their bloated military spending budgets and massive arms industries.
 
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It’s inventory issue. Iran likely suffers same fate.

For example, Russia runs 300 sorties each day. Let’s say hypothetically Each sortie they drop only one bomb (likely way more) That’s 300 PGMs per day in a single month that’s 9000 PGMs at the low end.

Does Iran have 9000 qaem missiles for their drones? Does Iran have 9000 Qased or qadr bombs for their jets? How many Phoenix missiles does Iran have for their F-14’s?

The issue for these countries on smaller budgets (Russia $60B and Iran $15-20B) is certain types of inventories are not massive like a USA or China with their bloated military spending budgets and massive arms industries.
Here's the thing though for country like Russia, they had so much time to produce these bombs over the years, So reaching 9000 Qaem bombs is certainly achievable given the time. Producing Qaem bombs till 2026 for example, we could certainly end up with inventory in the 4 digits., this seems to me more of a priority issue in the sense that they did not find it super important to produce a large inventory of them.

If we assume $20,000 for Qased each (or just some JDAM equivalent), the numbers can get quite high if the military sees value in them till 2030. Russia has had plenty of time to modernize itself.

Even as you state, 9000 would get consumed fast, so you'd certainly hope after dropping 9000 PGMs on your opponents equipment, you'd atleat have a breakthrough to win the fight.
 
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Even as you state, 9000 would get consumed fast, so you'd certainly hope after dropping 9000 PGMs on your opponents equipment, you'd atleat have a breakthrough to win the fight.

Now you understand my point. Without absurd PGM supply numbers within 6 months most militaries run low. Russia ended up having to turn to soviet era dummy bombs and lacked JDAM or glide kits to turn these into fairly accurate munitions.

And 9000 PGMs spread across a country like Iran or Ukraine is nothing in terms of overall damage.

Which brings me to my next point where people think 10,000 Shahab + F-110 will win you a war. They won’t, at best they are Area defense and denial assets. They can hurt static targets and reduce efficiency of an enemy’s offensive assets, but the damage output from a missile outside of its terminal impact shockwave is not that much different than a 1000lb bomb.

Thus Iran needs unmanned high altitude supersonic drone bombers to compliment missile force to cause force multipliers.
 
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Strike a refinery or pipeline in Az. They will come to beg with the next flight.

They cannot afford not having energy resources.

Key is to be ruthless with drone and missiles strikes on infrastructures.
 
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