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And we have people here like @SalarHaqq who think +5,000 (let's say 20,000) missiles will be enough to cripple not only all US bases in the neighboring countries to as far as Diego Garcia, but they think we can also cripple our neighbor's infrastructures as well and force them to end the war.
And when I show them calculations, to which they do not object, that we'll need at least 2,000,000 missiles to do what a decent air force can do in a prolonged war, they say we won't need that much destructive power because the war will end soon. This kind of thinking is very dangerous for Iran's national security.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Yeah, good luck locating and eliminating 32,000 missiles, but good luck producing 32,000 missiles in the first place. Even Iranian military analysts here do not think we have over 20,000 missiles, after decades of R&D and missile production. If a fighter jet is destroyed, it can be replaced after weeks or months. If you run out of 32,000 missiles, it will take decades to replace them.As said, in a prolonged war missiles again will be much more survivable than fighter jets. Even against neighboring states. And in your calculation, it will be enough for the enemy to take out a single Su-30 jet to deprive Iran of 32.000 potentially dropped bombs... Good luck locating and succesfully eliminating 32.000 or even 10.000 ballistic missiles, on the other hand.
Also, in a war no air force drops 2 million bombs or actually 3 to 4 million bombs (since each bomb will have smaller warheads and kinetic power than a ballistic mssile).
Whatever the air force can achieve, a combination of standoff ballistic missiles plus cruise missiles and drones can in a more secure and thus cheaper manner.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Yeah, good luck locating and eliminating 32,000 missiles, but good luck producing 32,000 missiles in the first place. Even Iranian military analysts here do not think we have over 20,000 missiles, after decades of R&D and missile production. If a fighter jet is destroyed, it can be replaced after weeks or months. If you run out of 32,000 missiles, it will take decades to replace them.
Ballistic missiles and cruise missiles are by no means, in any way, a replacement for an air force. Not even close. And they are not cheaper either.
Just one US base in our neighbor needs more than 100 ballistic missiles to get completely destroyed. And the US has too many bases in our vicinity. Our missiles will run out fast and obviously some of our missiles will malfunction instead of reaching their intended targets. Hence, the longer the war lasts, the harder it will be for us.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Yeah, good luck locating and eliminating 32,000 missiles, but good luck producing 32,000 missiles in the first place. Even Iranian military analysts here do not think we have over 20,000 missiles, after decades of R&D and missile production.
If a fighter jet is destroyed, it can be replaced after weeks or months. If you run out of 32,000 missiles, it will take decades to replace them.
Ballistic missiles and cruise missiles are by no means, in any way, a replacement for an air force. Not even close. And they are not cheaper either.
Just one US base in our neighbor needs more than 100 ballistic missiles to get completely destroyed. And the US has too many bases in our vicinity. Our missiles will run out fast and obviously some of our missiles will malfunction instead of reaching their intended targets. Hence, the longer the war lasts, the harder it will be for us.
If true this would imply that Iran, which has been able to churn out close to 100.000 automobiles a month
Importance and relevance of conventional capability should be the most important lesson of this war. Air superiority is critical to protect troops and equipment on ground. I was of the opinion that Iranian missiles were an effective deterrence but now I think they are not enough. Iranians should start focusing on Artesh now, more tanks, artillery, jets etc. Numbers are also very important. I think a jet like JF 17 in large numbers would do Iranians good. But given the geography of Iran. dual engine jets might be needed.
And once again the Bayraktar TB2 is still in the sky over Ukraine..... Wow. I assume the bulk of these system were moved prior to the initial strike wave since Ukrainian armed forces are being fed up-to-date intel from EU and US intelligence (which is better than Russias).
Have to say, staying off PDF nd spending time on twitter these couple days to keep an eye on the war has been the worst thing I ever done.
The level of lies and the dangerous levels of use of copium on twitter by NATO European cheerleaders has disgusted me like nothing I've ever seen before. I don't think any war in human history there has been so much lies and misinformation spread by one party about the real situation on the ground. No pictures, no evidence, only superficial claims.
They think it's normal for an army to achieve total victory within 24 hrs. After the progress Russia made after day 1 they Went on thumping their chest how Russia was defeated, they have no will or morale or whatever shit that they were saying.
OMG, goddamned Nazis, you are getting enveloped on all sides and Russians only used what? Around 65k TROOPS?
These uneducated NATO cheerleaders were nowhere to be found, they were busy taking drugs when the Nazis attacked innocent Russian speaking civilians, when they were relentlessly bombing donbass. Oh wait, the people of east Ukraine are not WESTERN ENUF, just like the Syrians.
These morons needs to be taught a lesson... I have no pity for Ukrainians. In fact I hope Ukraine ceases to exist and Russia just annexes the whole of Ukraine..
How in the holy-hell did the Russians not manage to destroy the Ukrainian air-force? They're suffering totally unnecessary losses due to their inept military planning. Wtf....
And once again the Bayraktar TB2 is still in the sky over Ukraine..... Wow. I assume the bulk of these system were moved prior to the initial strike wave since Ukrainian armed forces are being fed up-to-date intel from EU and US intelligence (which is better than Russias). Begs the questions of just how many more air-assets have and are continuing to survive in Ukraine.
And we have people here like @SalarHaqq who think +5,000 (let's say 20,000) missiles will be enough to cripple not only all US bases in the neighboring countries to as far as Diego Garcia, but they think we can also cripple our neighbor's infrastructures as well and force them to end the war.
And when I show them calculations, to which they do not object, that we'll need at least 2,000,000 missiles to do what a decent air force can do in a prolonged war, they say we won't need that much destructive power because the war will end soon. This kind of thinking is very dangerous for Iran's national security.