Ghulam-Alazhar
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man to gesmate YASHASIN hastam.
Hale be nazare shomaha javabe in yaru khosh ro khub dadam ya bad?
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man to gesmate YASHASIN hastam.
ye 1624 ta dige post bezari on vagt mishi senior member.Dustan che jri mishe senior shod?
are mamnum bazi ro nadidam vali shenidam.Chera sokut gefret?haman koja rafti ?
Mr ostad yashasin maro bordin.
migam susmar khor chill treath nist berim fuzuli konim ?
Pas 2 atishe nisti.mesle inke haman ba bachehaye dg bahse khosusi mikoneare mamnum bazi ro nadidam vali shenidam.
fek konam Darioush bashe.Fekr mikonid kie?
Pas 2 atishe nisti.mesle inke haman ba bachehaye dg bahse khosusi mikone
It is true that Safavids were Turkic people. Otherwise from where the all the Azeri people popped out from? It is no brainer. Really a pitty we have to discuss about this really. I guess certain people can't stomach that Azeri were the rulers of the whole region. Azeri people today are the most modern people in the region. With the permision of the almighty tengri from the altay mountains they will be the strongest force in the region again and the region will know peace and tranquility."Where some Turkish user for instance used this as his proof of the "Safavids being Turks"."
I didn't use that "as a proof of Safavids being Turks", do you have reading issues? Read what it says. And your comparision between that quote, and yours, basically a theory, is baseless.
What you need to remember with that theory is that it has little relevance to the time when Safavids rose, and especially to Shah Ismail. Obviously, even if Safavid ancestry were originally of non-Turkic origin (lets say IF, for the sake of discussion), they settled in Turkic Azerbaijan (as your quote says, according to that very theory, the Safavid ancestors adopted Azerbaijani Turkish after they settled in Azerbaijan, and that was nearly two centuries before Shah Ismail), and during all that time they would have undoubtedly have intermarriages with Turks of the region, Turks being the dominant group, and actual followers of the Safavid sect. The Safavid family even made royal intermariage with a well known Turkic dynasty, namely with the Aq Qoyunlu family. Shah Ismail was the grandson of Uzun Hasan on one side! Shah Ismail's Turkic blood is not something to be disputed, and he had even a Aq-Qoyunlu side to him like said, basically his other half, not any less significant than his Safavid half if we are to talk about his roots. Him being a poet in his native Azerbaijani is also a well known, and a significant fact. And your comparision about the usage of Persian in Ottoman Empire is groundless, as Persian was the lingua-france of the Muslim world, any educated person spoke it, much like the Latin during medieval Europe. On the other hand, Turkic was limited to its native speakers, and most of the Turkic empires had not even made the use of Turkic tongues. So its usage in Safavid Empire was indeed significant, as in comparision even Qajars in a later period would not make any use of it in their empire and state.
And apart from all that, it should be stressed that Safavid Empire was also Qizilbash Empire at the same time. This was an empire run by Turks, an empire whos military was provided by Turks.
Even the names of provinces, the titles were all Turkic. Name of a Safavid province was a Beglerbeglik, FYI. And governor of the province a Beglerbeg. Beglerbegs were exclusively chosen from various Turkic Qizilbash tribes.
bi soukhifek konam Darioush bashe.
ok ok okIt is true that Safavids were Turkic people. Otherwise from where the all the Azeri people popped out from? It is no brainer. Really a pitty we have to discuss about this really. I guess certain people can't stomach that Azeri were the rulers of the whole region. Azeri people today are the most modern people in the region. With the permision of the almighty tengri from the altay mountains they will be the strongest force in the region.
It is true that Safavids were Turkic people. Otherwise from where the all the Azeri people popped out from? It is no brainer. Really a pitty we have to discuss about this really. I guess certain people can't stomach that Azeri were the rulers of the whole region. Azeri people today are the most modern people in the region. With the permision of the almighty tengri from the altay mountains they will be the strongest force in the region again and the region will know peace and tranquility.
What part of my text was racist?can you please refrain from posting racist comments in our chil thread ?
tnx in advance
Dashi vasate sobat miri treat mikhuni.diruz rmi5 vasam sange tamum gozsht,didi?ba salami dobare , chi ru javab bedam dadash ?
can you please refrain from posting racist comments in our chil thread ?
tnx in advance
are midunam, ono velesh kon, kolan rad dade, kheili ajib gharibe.
What part of my text was racist?
Dashi vasate sobat miri treat mikhuni.diruz rmi5 vasam sange tamum gozsht,didi?