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Do you remember their initial barking about having killed over 200 American soldiers which was denied by the Americans?

Salami just few days ago said that it wasn't morally acceptable for them to kill "innocent American soldiers" for a crime committed by Trump. LOL The IRGC officially recognizes US soldiers deployed in the Middle East as terrorists.

I won't even go into detail like how their agent called C-Span out of desperation with his ridiculous Iranian accent trying to pretend that he was the father of a missing American soldier. LOL

Nevertheless, if Omid Dana's ridiculous claims about Iranian hidden weapons and UFOs were correct, why didn't the IRGC respond to the US declaration of war by an equal response?

I don't know if you heard the news but the IRGC is designated as a "Terrorist" Group by the U.S yet they did not dare retaliate for the downing of the MQ-4 or the attack on Al Assad airbase despite Trump stating twice that he was going to strike 52 sites including Cultural sites if Iran dared to retaliate for the Murder of General Soleimani. In the case of the MQ-4 Trump said he called off the retaliation when he heard how many people where going to be killed. I guess we are supposed to believe that trump has a sweet spot for IRGC "terrorists"!
 
(To anyone reading this, don't take it personally or too deeply. I'm just venting a little bit.)

Oh shit, I didn't even know they called C-SPAN, did they really call them? That's beyond sad man...

Things like this make me even more worried about Iran's future. If we have leaders who's worth isn't much and their words mean less than the papers it's written on. All we're left with is a bunch of men with missiles talking out their assess collectively. Just children pretending to be men. I think what bugs me the most is all the talk of "action" with very little actual action. How many fucking times are we going to have to hear some X or Y Iranian military figure head say "AMRIKA/ISRAEL ZIONISTS BETTER NOT ATTACK, WE WILL ATTACK 10000000000 TIMES STRONGER!!, BE KHODA MA MIKOONIM, BAVAR KHON!!". Just comes off as desperate and unnecessary. Just shut up and quietly do your job professionally without acting like a used-car salesman lmao.

Although it has been all said and done. The Ayn Al-Assad attack should have been MUCH more comprehensive than it was. Still don't understand why Iran didn't blow up the drones, planes and helicopters sitting right there on the tarmac. Would have at least sent a considerably stronger message to the Americans.....

Idk about you Qwecxz-jan, but I'm increasingly reaching the end of my rope with Iran. Soon all I will give two-shits about is the new military weapons Iran periodically unveils and that's about it..

This is just one example of IRGC propaganda campaign after attacking the Ain Al-Assad base in Iraq. Who do they think they're fooling with that obviously non-American accent?

I can't agree more with your last paragraph.
 
I don't know if you heard the news but the IRGC is designated as a "Terrorist" Group by the U.S yet they did not dare retaliate for the downing of the MQ-4 or the attack on Al Assad airbase despite Trump stating twice that he was going to strike 52 sites including Cultural sites if Iran dared to retaliate for the Murder of General Soleimani. In the case of the MQ-4 Trump said he called off the retaliation when he heard how many people where going to be killed. I guess we are supposed to believe that trump has a sweet spot for IRGC "terrorists"!
Trump held a conference after assassinating General Soleimani and called him a dangerous terrorist. The IRGC claimed they had killed over 200 American soldiers, then later Salami said that they would not kill "innocent soldiers" for the actions of their leaders. LMAO
 
Omid Dana is a crackpot like you. LOL
We still haven't forgotten his ridiculous laughable videos about Iranian UFOs and Plasma Physics that makes anyone with a minimum knowledge of physics roll on the floor laughing.

We are lucky that his videos about Iranian UFOs haven't been translated into English or any foreign language yet.

Where were those super duper UFOs when Trump assassinated General Soleimani? Why did the IR decide to take it in the *** instead of responding to the US open declaration of war by assassinating our highest ranking general?

I never claimed Omid Dana is flawless. But for the average Iranian (or average citizens from anywhere on this planet, actually), the level of his work is sufficient. The best thing about him is that considering his growing success and impact on Iranian public opinion, he achieves to upset the whole 'barandaaz' crowd.

As for your insistence that the Islamic Republic is "not doing anything" against US and zionist imperialists, how are your rhetoric talking points any different from the tired old taymiyist takfiri propaganda, which was being repeated by the likes of Falcon29 on this forum. It has all been debunked long ago, you're a bit late in the game I'm afraid. People who rehash this narrative never realize how self-contradicting it really is. For instance, if Iran hadn't seriously been confronting the US regime for the past four decades, severely damaging its interests, then Trump would not have ordered to strike shahid Soleimani to start with.

The Islamic Republic and the IRGC do not really need to prove their unparalleled courage in challenging the US and the zionists nor do they need to constantly boast about the innumerable successful chapters in their 40-year long record of confrontation against the cited oppressors - from the 600+ G.I.'s eliminated by Iranian-backed groups in Iraq to the arrest of their sailors including special forces trespassing into Iranian waters, to the downing of their drones, to the regular arrest of their spies posing as ordinary visitors, to the encircling of their zionist masters from the north (with Lebanon's Hezbollah), the south (the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza) and the west (with pro-Iranian elements stationed close to the Golan Heights) - which is driving them mad yet they're incapable of doing a damn thing against it, to the successful campaign against their takfiri proxies in Iraq and Syria which resulted in completely defeating their plans, and so on and so forth.

As if this was a negligible feat. As if any other state actor, outside of handful of exceptions like North Korea, can claim to have displayed comparable political will and prowess in standing up for their sovereign rights and repelling zio-American imperialism.

Anyone with basic knowledge knows these things. You can't just choose to ignore these and then cherry pick a specific aspect, draw faulty conclusions based on that and distort the overall picture, apparently motivated by a desire to vent some unjustified spite.

It's unfortunate that you're increasingly tending to show anti-IR colors beneath the ultra-nationalism, much like your friends "Cthulu" and "Dariush the Great" (who might shed (crocodile) tears for Hajj Qassem but one minute later will start insulting IRGC commanders, as if Hajj Qassem wasn't the prototypical IRGC officer).

Regarding the ad hominem, keep it up if you like, it'll lead to your posts being reported.
 
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I never claimed Omid Dana is flawless. But for the average Iranian (or average citizens from anywhere on this planet, actually), the level of his work is sufficient. The best thing about him is that considering his growing success and impact on Iranian public opinion, he achieves to upset the whole 'barandaaz' crowd.

As for your constant attempts at suggesting the Islamic Republic is "not doing anything" against US and zionist imperialists, your rhetoric talking points are barelty different from the tired old taymiyist takfiri propaganda, which was being repeated by the likes of Falcon29 on this forum. It has all been debunked long ago, you're a bit late I'm afraid. People who rehash this propaganda never realize how self-defeating it really is. For instance, if Iran hadn't seriously been confronting the US regime for the past four decades, severely damaging its interests, then Trump would not have ordered to strike shahid Soleimani to start with.

The Islamic Republic and the IRGC do not need to prove their unparalleled courage in challenging the US and the zionists nor do they need to constantly boast about the innumerable successful chapters in their 40-year long record of confrontation against the cited oppressors - from the 600+ G.I.'s eliminated by Iranian-backed groups in Iraq to the arrest of their sailors including special forces trespassing into Iranian waters, to the downing of their drones, to the encircling of their zionist masters from the north (with Lebanon's Hezbollah), the south (the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza) and the west (with pro-Iranian elements stationed close to the Golan Heights), which is driving them mad but they can't do a damn thing against it, to the successful campaign against their takfiri proxies in Iraq and Syria which resulted in completely defeating their plans, and so on and so forth.

Anyone with basic knowledge knows these things. Read a history book or something, then come try and cherry pick a specific case so as to draw faulty conclusions from it and distort the overall picture to vent your misplaced spite.

At least you're increasingly showing your anti-IR colors beneath the claimed ultra-nationalism, much like your two buddies "Cthulu" and "Dariush the Great" (who shed (crocidile) tears for Hajj Qassem and one minute later start insulting IRGC commanders, as if Hajj Qassem wasn't the prototypical IRGC officer).

Regarding the ad hominem, keep it up if you like: it would lead to your posts being reported.
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What you failed to understand is that this is not the right place for putting videos from someone like Omid Dana in a serious discussion about Iran. We are on a military forum. Nobody here buys ridiculous claims like Iran's hidden weapons, UFOs or our knowledge of undiscovered branches of physics, you know. This is not a place similar to YouTube's comments section.

It's funny that someone like you who has shown disrespect towards Iranian communities such as Zoroastrians, times and times again, dares to call others Takfiris. You are the very definition of a radical Muslim by all means.

There's a huge difference between resisting against a greater power out of outdated ideology with stupidity and resisting against it with power and might. When Trump ordered the assassination of an Iranian general and took responsibility for it officially, informing Iraqis to warn the Americans before launching a revenge attack does not really signal might. Also, why should the Americans attack the Islamic Republic while they have successfully contained it after the JCPOA and they're using it as a boogeyman to milk the filthy rich Sheikhdoms like Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Do you know how many billions of dollars of Iranian assets they have frozen worldwide since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA? Most estimates point to over 150 billion dollars. What kind of trade can they do with Iran that benefits them more than the status quo?

As for the reemergence of riots like the last year's October Riots, that's very likely to happen. The government's monetary policies, widespread fraud and embezzlement, systematic corruption, the devaluation of the Iranian rial has diminished the minimum wage in Iran to 100 USD. That's unprecedented. Local statistics in Iran published in Iranian newspapers, even conservative newspapers like Mashreghnews, show that the minimum wage is barely enough for a hand-to-mouth life for 2 weeks. The GINI coefficient is rising every year. The government hasn't done enough to reduce the gap between annual salary increases and annual inflation. And the worst part is that the government doesn't even talk about the devaluation of the Iranian rial anymore. In less than 8 months, the Iranian rial has lost 60% of its value. In 7 years of the Rouhani administration, the Iranian rial has lost 90% of its value. If that's normal for you, let me tell you something: for most people (almost everyone), it's not.
 
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What you failed to understand is that this is not the right place for quoting someone like Omid Dana in a serious discussion about Iran. We are on a military forum. Nobody here buys ridiculous claims like Iran's hidden weapons, UFOs or our knowledge of undiscovered branches of physics, you know.

Except that I'm not quoting him on military matters, which aren't his strength. I'm posting his excellent work exposing oppositionist clowns and their 40-year old dreams about an imminent "downfall" of the IR.

Considering how I've seen some fill this topic with pages of predictions about the "upcoming end of the regime" (a non-military topic by nature) based on similarly debatable arguments and motivated by a comparable antagonism towards the IR, I think it was pretty much the right place to share those particular video compilations. As a matter of fact at least three users here enjoyed them.

Since we're at this game of shooting the messenger, perhaps you may want to practice what you preach and refrain from taking as gospel every claim made by the American regime, including when it comes to their casualties from the Ayn al-Assad strike (we remember how they went from "zero dead, zero injured" to ten, then twenty, then thirty... and finally some 100+ brain-injured troops). Seeing how unreliable their statements have been in this regard, who is to say they aren't hiding more severe types of casualties from the public?

It's funny that someone like you who has shown disrespect towards Iranian communities such as Zoroastrians, times and times again, dares to call others Takfiris. You are the very definition of a radical Muslim by all means.

You never correctly understood my posts about the Zoroastrians. That's not my fault. Fact is I didn't disrespect them, on the contrary, I care enough for their well-being (and continued existence, actually) to denounce the plots hatched by the globalist oligarchy against them (such as their liberal subversion, which might end up uprooting them and readying their religion for ultimate dissolution into the planned Noahide one-world faith), as well as the agents in their midst trying to abuse their religious congregations for nefarious ends in line with the zionist agenda.

You may choose to excuse the machinations of certain Indian-based Zoroastrian elites who are on the payroll of Iran's existential enemies (including their promotion of Kurdish separatism against Iran) merely because of their Zoroastrian background, but for my part, I am not going to idealize nominal affiliations to the point of blinding myself to political realities.

Which is why I have no problem denouncing Muslim Iranians, even Shia ones, who collaborate with the enemy or whose actions are benefitting the latter (such as proponents of the liberal 'American Islam' which Imam Khomeini used to condemn, or British turbans from the Shirazi and Hojjatieh circles and so on, all of which are representative of the enemy's attempts at infiltrating and subverting Shia Muslim communities). It doesn't mean that I show "disrespect" towards the Shia Muslim Iranian community as such.

Also, when did I excommunicate (exercice 'takfir' on) anyone?

I still maintain that the rhetoric you and few others here have been expressing, claiming that Iran's Resistance against zio-American imperialism is "fake" or purporting some sort of a "secret connivence" between the Iranian leadership and "Jews" (like "Dariush the Great" has been suggesting recently), is nearly identical to and just as detached from reality as the anti-Iran propanda we are used to hear from those radical so-called "jihadi" salafist groups. If you don't want to be in such debatable company, you can revise your discourse.

There's a huge difference between resisting against a greater power out of outdated ideology and stupidity and resisting against it with power and might.

So now you're backtracking on previous statements and conceding that the IR is in fact resisting the global empire. That's some marginal progress there.

As to whether the IR's ideology is "outdated" or not, you're free to believe it is, however others are witnessing the daily crumbling of the secular liberal order upon which western polities are based, and which they've been imposing on nations accross the world.

By the way, for as long as someone adheres to the principle of Resistance against this global order, they'd be well advised not to disparage fellow resisters because of manageable ideological differences. Here again the Islamic Republic is showing the way, hence its cooperation and alliance with secular nationalist governments such as Syria or even socialist or non-Muslim ones like the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and so on.

When Trump ordered the assassination of an Iranian general, informing Iraqis to warn the Americans before launching a revenge attack does not really signal might.

Iran never asked the Iraqis to warn the Americans, that's a myth. What Iran did was to stay true to its habit of respecting Iraqi sovereignty by informing Baghdad authorities shortly before the strikes and without naming the bases that would be targeted.

Iranian authorities, unlike US occupiers, do not look down on their partners and allies, please remember this (since you were using questionable semantics the other day in reference to the Iraqi people, suggesting they were at fault for welcoming US invaders - which they didn't, actually, or for allowing Iran to compromise Iraq's sovereignty, which again isn't factual, since Iran unlike the US is respectful of Iraqi sovereignty).

As I wrote before, when it comes to Iran's foreign policy, you seem to have this habit of cherry picking specific events from which you draw invalid conclusions about the big picture. The fact that a developing nation like Iran has managed to withstand 40+ years of non-stop plots of all sorts by the major "superpower" and its oligarchic infrastructure (international zionism, global bankster and industrial mafias, masonry etc), ranging from terrorism, sabotage, psy-ops and soft war in all its dimensions (in fact the largest and most comprehensive propaganda campaign ever witnessed in human history), economic warfare, intelligence operations, fifth column infiltration, the extensive use of state- (Saddam's Iraq) and non-state proxies (ISIS and other such groups) unleashed on Iran and her allies, basically every imaginable type of aggression short of all-out military invasion... and not only hit back at the opportune moment but grow stronger every day despite these challenges, does pretty much signal resilience, prowess, and might.

And there's primarily one reason Iran has not been subject to direct military aggression by the US regime, and that is the deterrence she has been able to establish. Nothing else.

Also, why should the Americans attack the Islamic Republic while they have successfully contained it after the JCPOA and they're using it as a boogeyman to milk the filthy rich Sheikhdoms like Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Do you know many billions of dollars of Iranian assets they have frozen worldwide since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA? Most estimates point to over 200 billion dollars.

Again you sound more and more like Falcon29. I gain the impression of having to reply to a copy-paste of his former arguments.

And you're mistaken just like he was.

First of all, how has the US regime "contained" Islamic Iran with the JCPOA? Did the JCPOA cause Iran to roll back her asymmetric deterrence capability, namely her ballistic missile program and arsenal, or were these significantly expanded including through new technologically advanced additions? Did the JCPOA lead Iran to cut off ties with her extensive network of allies accross the region, or did the Resistance Axis welcome an unexpected newcomer in the form of Yemen's Ansarallah-led government? Has Iran lost her deterrence against the zionist regime, now that Hezbollah is more powerful than ever, that Hamas and Islamic Jihad have proven they are no walkover, and that a third potential front has been established around the Golan?

So I can't really see what containment you're referring to. Iran wasn't going to rush into manufacturing nuclear weapons anyway, so the JCPOA did nothing much to deter Iran from a geostrategic and military standpoint.

Also, why should the Americans want to attack Iran? Maybe because their zionist masters have been dreaming of it since 9-11? Many of us here are old enough to remember the post-9-11 slogan "real men go to Tehran"...

Maybe because Iran is highest on the Bernard Lewis and Oded Yinon list of nations scheduled to be destroyed in order to guarantee Isra"el"'s regional hegemony, as confirmed by US general Wesley Clark's revelation about the seven nations designated to be attacked in confidental Pentagon meetings?

Maybe because the US regime and its underlying oligarchy constitute a totalitarian entity bent on total planetary domination, which therefore cannot tolerate even a semblance of insubordination?

Maybe because Western Asia, "pivot to the East" notwithstanding, is still a critical region concentrating considerable proportion of global energy resources, where thus the global hegemon cannot allow a revisionist regional power to emerge?

Maybe because the longer Iran manages to hold out, the more its model of resistance could spread outside its borders, as US power is declining to the benefit of Washington's emerging multi-lateral rivals?

Maybe because the much vaunted alternatives to military aggression have blatantly failed to reach their goal?

It's simple, the US regime would love to attack Iran directly. It's just that it knows the price it would have to pay for doing so would be unbearable. And it's Iran's deterrence power that is fixing the price at the level it now stands.

As for the reemergence of riots like the last year's October Riots, that's very likely to happen. The government's monetary policies, embezzlements, systematic corruption, the devaluation of the Iranian rial has diminished the minimum wage in Iran to 100 USD. That's unprecedented. Local statistics in Iran published in Iranian newspapers, even conservative newspapers like Mashreghnews, show that the minimum wage is barely enough for a hand-to-mouth life for 2 weeks. The GINI coefficient is rising. The government hasn't done enough to reduce the gap between annual salary increases and annual inflation. And the worst part is that the government doesn't even talk about the devaluation of the Iranian rial anymore. In less than 8 months, the Iranian rial has lost 60% of its value. In 7 years of the Rouhani administration, the Iranian rial has lost 90% of its value. If that's normal for you, let me tell you something: for most people, it's not.

"Normal" under what circumstances? When subjected to the harshest sanctions ever imposed on a country, and when on top of this, a western-apologetic administration practicing neoliberal economic policies is in charge, then yes, such developments are quite expectable. However, this administration is to be replaced pretty soon by a very different one which is most likely to increase welfare measures destined to cushion the adverse effects of sanctions on the economically vulnerable segments of society. Likewise, the war on corruption initiated by Ebrahim Raisi is going to bear more and more fruit as time passes, which the upcoming administration is equally going to benefit from.

As for those statistical reasonings you propose, it's surprising that you don't grasp their flawed nature. For according to this reasoning, a considerable proportion of the Iranian population, namely all those earning the minimum wage or less, are currently suffering from severe undernutrition (getting to eat half as much as necessary). How is it possible that you're living in Iran, yet won't realize how obviously false this assertion is? What more can one say, other than referring readers to the previously posted series of best-of videos showcasing exiled opposition figures who ecstatically tout the "soon-to-come downfall of the regime" based on out-of-touch assessments.

And also, isn't it peculiar that you'd suddenly evoke the plight of the financially destitute, when you're on the record for attacking forum user ashool for being poor (according to you)?
 
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Except that I'm not quoting him on military topics, which aren't his strength. I'm posting his excellent work exposing oppositionist clowns and their 40-year old dreams about an imminent "downfall" of the IR.

Considering how I've seen some fill this topic with pages of predictions about the "upcoming end of the regime" (a non-military topic by nature) based on similarly debatable arguments and motivated by a comparable antagonism towards the IR, I think it was pretty much the right place to share those particular video compilations. As a matter of fact at least three users here enjoyed them.

Oh, and since we're at this game of shooting the messenger, perhaps you may want to practice what you preach and refrain from taking as gospel every claim by the American regime, including when it comes to their casualties from the Ayn al-Assad strike (we remember how they went from "zero dead, zero injured" to ten, then twenty, then thirty... and finally some 100+ brain-injured troops). Seeing how unreliable their statements have been in this regard, who is to say they aren't hiding more severe types of casualties from the public?



You never correctly understood my posts about the Zoroastrians. That's not my fault. Fact is I didn't disrespect them, on the contrary, I care enough for their well-being (and continued existence, actually) to denounce the plots hatched by the globalist oligarchy against them (such as their liberal subversion, which might end up uprooting them and readying their religion for ultimate dissolution into the planned Noahide one-world faith), as well as the agents in their midst trying to abuse their religious congregations for nefarious ends in line with the zionist agenda.

You may choose to excuse the machinations of certain Indian-based Zoroastrian elites who are on the payroll of Iran's existential enemies (including their promotion of Kurdish separatism against Iran) merely because of their Zoroastrian background, but for my part, I am not going to idealize nominal affiliations to the point of blinding myself to political realities.

Which is why I have no problem denouncing Muslim Iranians, even Shia ones, who collaborate with the enemy or whose actions are benefitting the latter (such as proponents of the liberal 'American Islam' which Imam Khomeini used to condemn, or British turbans from the Shirazi and Hojjatieh circles and so on, all of which are representative of the enemy's attempts at infiltrating and subverting Shia Muslim communities). It doesn't mean that I show "disrespect" towards the Shia Muslim Iranian community as such.

Also, when did I excommunicate (exercice 'takfir' on) anyone?

I still maintain that the rhetoric you and few others here have been expressing, claiming that Iran's Resistance against zio-American imperialism is "fake" or purporting some sort of a "secret connivence" between the Iranian leadership and "Jews" (like "Dariush the Great" has been suggesting recently), is nearly identical to and just as detached from reality as the anti-Iran propanda we are used to hear from those radical so-called "jihadi" salafist groups. If you don't want to be in such bad company, you can revise your discourse.



So now you're backtracking on previous statements and conceding that the IR is in fact resisting the global empire. That's some marginal progress there.

As to whether the IR's ideology is "outdated" or not, you're free to believe it, however others are witnessing the daily crumbling of the secular liberal order upon which western polities is based, and which they've been spreading and imposing on nations accross the world.

By the way, for as long as someone adheres to the principle of Resistance against this global order, they'd be well advised not to disparage fellow resisters because of manageable ideological differences. Here again the Islamic Republic is showing the way, hence its cooperation and alliance with secular nationalist governments such as Syria or even socialist or non-Muslim ones like the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and so on.



Iran never asked the Iraqis to warn the Americans, that's a myth. What Iran did was to stay loyal to its habit of respecting Iraqi sovereignty by informing Baghdad authorities shortly before the strikes and without naming the bases that would be targeted.

Iranian authorities, unlike US occupiers, do not look down on their partners and allies, please remember this (since you were using debatable semantics the other day in reference to the Iraqi people, suggesting they were at fault for welcoming US invaders - which they didn't, actually, or for allowing Iran to compromise Iraq's sovereignty, which again isn't factual, since Iran unlike the US is respectful of Iraqi sovereignty).

As I wrote before, you like to cherry picking an isolated event to draw invalid conclusions about the big picture. The fact that a developing nation like Iran has managed to withstand 40+ years of non-stop plots of all sorts by the major "superpower" and its oligarchic infrastructure (international zionism, global bankster and industrial mafias, masonry etc), ranging from terrorism, sabotage, psy-ops and soft war in all its dimensions (in fact the largest and most comprehensive propaganda campaign ever witnessed in human history), economic warfare, intelligence operations, fifth column infiltration, the extensive use of state- (Saddam's Iraq) and non-state proxies (ISIS and other such groups) unleashed on Iran and her allies, basically every imaginable type of aggression short of all-out military invasion... and not only hit back at the opportune moment but grow stronger every day despite these challenges, does very much signal resilience, prowess, and might.

And there's primarily only one reason Iran was not subjected to direct military aggression by the US regime, and that is the deterrence she has been able to establish. Nothing else.




Again you sound more and more like Falcon29. I get the impression of having to reply to a near copy-paste of his former arguments.

And you're mistaken just like he was.

First of all, how has the US regime "contained" Islamic Iran with the JCPOA? Did the JCPOA cause Iran to roll back her asymmetric deterrence capability, namely her ballistic missile program and arsenal, or were these significantly expanded including through new technologically advanced additions? Did the JCPOA lead Iran to cut off ties with her extensive network of allies accross the region, or did the Resistance Axis welcome an unexpected newcomer in the form of Yemen's Ansarallah-led government? Has Iran lost her deterrence against the zionist regime, now that Hezbollah is more powerful than ever, that Hamas and Islamic Jihad have proven they are no walkover, and that a third potential front has been established around the Golan?

Don't know what containment you're referring to. Iran wasn't going to rush into manufacturing nuclear weapons anyway, so the JCPOA did nothing to deter Iran from a geostrategic and military standpoint.

Also, why should the Americans want to attack Iran? Maybe because their zionist masters have been dreaming of it since 9-11? Many of us here are old enough to remember the post-9-11 slogan "real men go to Tehran"... Maybe because Iran is highest on the Bernard Lewis and Oded Yinon list of nations to destroy in order to guarantee Isra"el"'s regional hegemony, as confirmed by US general Wesley Clark's revelation about the seven nations that ha designated to be attacked in confidental Pentagon meetings? Maybe because

You and Falcon have much more in common than he and I. Both of you believe in the same religion, only different interpretations of it. Both of you see the world through the lens of fantasy and cherry-picked facts that are irrelevant to the main point of the argument most of the time.

How did the JCPOA contain Iran? Well, where do you want me to start? We lost all of our 20% enriched uranium stockpile. We lost 13,000 kilograms of our 3.5% enriched uranium stockpile and we handed over half of it for free to Russia. Now considering the fact that uranium is hard to mine in Iran, that's quite significant for our nuclear deterrence. Did Iran cut off ties with her allies? Well, countries where we had investments did cut their ties with us. Djibouti did cut all her ties with Iran. We built their parliament for them for free due to their geopolitical significance for us. Tajikistan did the same. We built a free power plant in Tajikistan due to cultural similarities. Did Iran lose deterrence? Well, our nuclear breakout time was changed from weeks to months or years. If you don't understand the importance of nuclear deterrence, I can only feel sorry for you. Did it affect our ballistic missile program? The Iranian Space Agency was nearly dissolved by the Rouhani administration. We didn't have a successful launch until just recently. Do I need to say more? All sides have reached a stalemate in Syria. The instability and vulnerability of Syria as one of our main allies in the region go completely against our regional interests.

Today, the regional hegemony of Israel (which has been non-existent since 1970s in my opinion) is threatened by countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia way more than Iran. If they want to attack a country just for that purpose, they should target Turkey first and then maybe Saudi Arabia. So, your argument holds no merit in my opinion. As I said, the US is gaining billions of dollars of money through freezing Iranian assets and arms sales to Arabs. Israel is normalizing her relations with all Arab countries one by one, something it couldn't have dreamed of just a decade ago. It seems that the status quo is serving them well and the Islamic Republic has run out of options to change it and honestly, it doesn't seem willing to change it as long as the IR system remains in power.

Previously, before the conservatives become the majority in the parliament, one could blame the inadequate foreign and domestic policies of Iran on the Rouhani administration. But when the impeachment of Rouhani was cancelled, it became evident that Rouhani alone is not responsible for the current situation.
 
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Except that I'm not quoting him on military topics, which aren't his strength. I'm posting his excellent work exposing oppositionist clowns and their 40-year old dreams about an imminent "downfall" of the IR.

Considering how I've seen some fill this topic with pages of predictions about the "upcoming end of the regime" (a non-military topic by nature) based on similarly debatable arguments and motivated by a comparable antagonism towards the IR, I think it was pretty much the right place to share those particular video compilations. As a matter of fact at least three users here enjoyed them.

Oh, and since we're at this game of shooting the messenger, perhaps you may want to practice what you preach and refrain from taking as gospel every claim by the American regime, including when it comes to their casualties from the Ayn al-Assad strike (we remember how they went from "zero dead, zero injured" to ten, then twenty, then thirty... and finally some 100+ brain-injured troops). Seeing how unreliable their statements have been in this regard, who is to say they aren't hiding more severe types of casualties from the public?

You never correctly understood my posts about the Zoroastrians. That's not my fault. Fact is I didn't disrespect them, on the contrary, I care enough for their well-being (and continued existence, actually) to denounce the plots hatched by the globalist oligarchy against them (such as their liberal subversion, which might end up uprooting them and readying their religion for ultimate dissolution into the planned Noahide one-world faith), as well as the agents in their midst trying to abuse their religious congregations for nefarious ends in line with the zionist agenda.

You may choose to excuse the machinations of certain Indian-based Zoroastrian elites who are on the payroll of Iran's existential enemies (including their promotion of Kurdish separatism against Iran) merely because of their Zoroastrian background, but for my part, I am not going to idealize nominal affiliations to the point of blinding myself to political realities.

Which is why I have no problem denouncing Muslim Iranians, even Shia ones, who collaborate with the enemy or whose actions are benefitting the latter (such as proponents of the liberal 'American Islam' which Imam Khomeini used to condemn, or British turbans from the Shirazi and Hojjatieh circles and so on, all of which are representative of the enemy's attempts at infiltrating and subverting Shia Muslim communities). It doesn't mean that I show "disrespect" towards the Shia Muslim Iranian community as such.

Also, when did I excommunicate (exercice 'takfir' on) anyone?

I still maintain that the rhetoric you and few others here have been expressing, claiming that Iran's Resistance against zio-American imperialism is "fake" or purporting some sort of a "secret connivence" between the Iranian leadership and "Jews" (like "Dariush the Great" has been suggesting recently), is nearly identical to and just as detached from reality as the anti-Iran propanda we are used to hear from those radical so-called "jihadi" salafist groups. If you don't want to be in such bad company, you can revise your discourse.



So now you're backtracking on previous statements and conceding that the IR is in fact resisting the global empire. That's some marginal progress there.

As to whether the IR's ideology is "outdated" or not, you're free to believe it, however others are witnessing the daily crumbling of the secular liberal order upon which western polities is based, and which they've been spreading and imposing on nations accross the world.

By the way, for as long as someone adheres to the principle of Resistance against this global order, they'd be well advised not to disparage fellow resisters because of manageable ideological differences. Here again the Islamic Republic is showing the way, hence its cooperation and alliance with secular nationalist governments such as Syria or even socialist or non-Muslim ones like the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and so on.



Iran never asked the Iraqis to warn the Americans, that's a myth. What Iran did was to stay loyal to its habit of respecting Iraqi sovereignty by informing Baghdad authorities shortly before the strikes and without naming the bases that would be targeted.

Iranian authorities, unlike US occupiers, do not look down on their partners and allies, please remember this (since you were using debatable semantics the other day in reference to the Iraqi people, suggesting they were at fault for welcoming US invaders - which they didn't, actually, or for allowing Iran to compromise Iraq's sovereignty, which again isn't factual, since Iran unlike the US is respectful of Iraqi sovereignty).

As I wrote before, you like to cherry picking an isolated event to draw invalid conclusions about the big picture. The fact that a developing nation like Iran has managed to withstand 40+ years of non-stop plots of all sorts by the major "superpower" and its oligarchic infrastructure (international zionism, global bankster and industrial mafias, masonry etc), ranging from terrorism, sabotage, psy-ops and soft war in all its dimensions (in fact the largest and most comprehensive propaganda campaign ever witnessed in human history), economic warfare, intelligence operations, fifth column infiltration, the extensive use of state- (Saddam's Iraq) and non-state proxies (ISIS and other such groups) unleashed on Iran and her allies, basically every imaginable type of aggression short of all-out military invasion... and not only hit back at the opportune moment but grow stronger every day despite these challenges, does very much signal resilience, prowess, and might.

And there's primarily only one reason Iran was not subjected to direct military aggression by the US regime, and that is the deterrence she has been able to establish. Nothing else.
Except that he's a clown pretty much as anyone else that he's making fun of, if not more. An idiot that thinks some late blooming, unrecognized genius has provided Iran with some extremely high tech knowledge that no one else possesses is not any less ridiculous than those clowns.

Large scale riots like October riots will happen again soon if the economic situation doesn't get better. That's a fact that is beyond doubt. People have basic needs. When their basic needs are not met, they get violent and aggressive. Now if you want to continue to live in your fantasies, that's a different story.

Who is to say they're not hiding more severe casualties from the public? General Salami. He literally confirmed that no American soldier was killed by saying that they would not kill "innocent soldiers" for the actions of their leaders. The IRGC claimed they had proof of the American casualties and they would release it when they see fit. It seems that Salami's speech completely violates that claim.

Fact is that your nonsense about Iranians upset a lot of people here. You're a Raefipoor type of guy in my opinion, except that even Raefipoor is trying to sound less fanatical and more rational lately.

Nobody is backtracking on anything. The status quo has reached an equilibrium point where IR actions not only do not hurt her enemies anymore, but in fact strengthens them economically and politically. It's a type of symbiotic relationship between the Islamic Republic regime and her enemies where only Iranian people get screwed. The Americans have no reason to want the IR to go as long as the regime is in fact serving them better than a puppet dictator by their stupid policies.

LMAO Iran warned Iraqis that an attack was going to happen several hours before launching it, giving the Iraqis and the Americans enough time to hide in bunkers and fully prepare for it. I remember very well that the Americans predicted the attack was going to happen a day before it took place. Now that could be just a mere prediction based on reading signals and analyzing our behaviors or it could be based on some sort of intelligence provided to them a day before the attack. I'm not even going to talk about how the IR mishandled the whole situation of Soleimani's assassination.

As I wrote before, the only reason that the Islamic Republic has lasted for 41 years is because from a game theoretical point of view, the IR has successfully established a win-win situation for herself and the Americans where the Islamic Republic and its close circles remain in power and the US collects the economic benefits of having them in power indirectly. The status quo is good for the Americans and the Israelis. It is not bad for the Islamic Republic in the sense that they can remain in power and steal people's wealth and resources. And it is terrible for the Iranian people who have to tolerate them due to the lack of a better alternative at the moment.
 
Trump held a conference after assassinating General Soleimani and called him a dangerous terrorist. The IRGC claimed they had killed over 200 American soldiers, then later Salami said that they would not kill "innocent soldiers" for the actions of their leaders. LMAO

What can I say man..... no use getting all that mad over it now. One can only hope that things will get "better".
What you failed to understand is that this is not the right place for putting videos from someone like Omid Dana in a serious discussion about Iran. We are on a military forum. Nobody here buys ridiculous claims like Iran's hidden weapons, UFOs or our knowledge of undiscovered branches of physics, you know. This is not a place similar to YouTube's comments section.

It's funny that someone like you who has shown disrespect towards Iranian communities such as Zoroastrians, times and times again, dares to call others Takfiris. You are the very definition of a radical Muslim by all means.

There's a huge difference between resisting against a greater power out of outdated ideology with stupidity and resisting against it with power and might. When Trump ordered the assassination of an Iranian general and took responsibility for it officially, informing Iraqis to warn the Americans before launching a revenge attack does not really signal might. Also, why should the Americans attack the Islamic Republic while they have successfully contained it after the JCPOA and they're using it as a boogeyman to milk the filthy rich Sheikhdoms like Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Do you know how many billions of dollars of Iranian assets they have frozen worldwide since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA? Most estimates point to over 150 billion dollars. What kind of trade can they do with Iran that benefits them more than the status quo?

As for the reemergence of riots like the last year's October Riots, that's very likely to happen. The government's monetary policies, widespread fraud and embezzlement, systematic corruption, the devaluation of the Iranian rial has diminished the minimum wage in Iran to 100 USD. That's unprecedented. Local statistics in Iran published in Iranian newspapers, even conservative newspapers like Mashreghnews, show that the minimum wage is barely enough for a hand-to-mouth life for 2 weeks. The GINI coefficient is rising every year. The government hasn't done enough to reduce the gap between annual salary increases and annual inflation. And the worst part is that the government doesn't even talk about the devaluation of the Iranian rial anymore. In less than 8 months, the Iranian rial has lost 60% of its value. In 7 years of the Rouhani administration, the Iranian rial has lost 90% of its value. If that's normal for you, let me tell you something: for most people (almost everyone), it's not.

90% of its value....... holy jesus, that's a death sentence.
 
You and Falcon have much more in common than he and I. Both of you believe in the same religion, only different interpretations of it. Both of you see the world through the lens of fantasy and cherry-picked facts that are irrelevant to the main point of the argument most of the time.

It's plain obvious how your assertions on Iran's foreign policy are quasi identical to Falcon29's, while I am adopting a diametrically opposed view. Anyone with a pair of eyes realizes this. The rest of your comment doesn't affect this reality, and neither does the fact that the two of you don't share the same ideology.

How did the JCPOA contain Iran? Well, where do you want me to start? We lost all of our 20% enriched uranium stockpile. We lost 13,000 kilograms of our 3.5% enriched uranium stockpile and we handed over half of it for free to Russia. Now considering the fact that uranium is hard to mine in Iran, that's quite significant for our nuclear deterrence.

As I explained, Iran was not planning to manufacture nuclear weapons anytime soon, nor did its deterrence doctrine ever center on a rapid nuclear break-out option. The US and zionist regimes themselves were fully aware of this.

Plus, Iran is still pretty much in possession of every building block required for this solution to materialize, should she ever decide to go down that path (which she won't need to and therefore most probably won't engage in).

Well, countries where we had investments did cut their ties with us. Djibouti did cut all her ties with Iran. We built their parliament for them for free due to their geopolitical significance for us. Tajikistan did the same. We built a free power plant in Tajikistan due to cultural similarities.

Seriously? I really don't understand how you would consider Iran's relations with Djibouti to be of strategic nature, let alone to form part of Iran's deterrent network of regional alliances?

Tajikistan did not cut ties with Iran, bilateral diplomatic relations are intact. They essentially shut down Iranian welfare funds operating on their soil and downgraded a few common projects.

Nor did Tajikistan play a role in Iran's regional deterrence architecture. Members of the Axis of Resistance do.

Besides, these two examples aren't a consequence of the JCPOA, they stem from bilateral US and Saudi lobbying.

Well, our nuclear breakout time was changed from weeks to months or years. If you don't understand the importance of nuclear deterrence, I can only feel sorry for you.

As I noted above, Iran's deterrence doctrine never centered nor relied primarily on the nuclear weaponization option. Her conventional deterrence is largely sufficient. I invite you to ask PeeD, one of the most knowledgeable and respected Iranian users when it comes to military affairs and technicalities.

You're somewhat exaggerating the current breakout time and underestimating the pre-JCPOA one. After the JCPOA, Kerry and his colleagues were talking of one single year, not several years, while prior to the JCPOA, the general consensus was of a few months (rather than weeks).

Iran did not significantly reduce its “breakout time.” Prior to the JCPOA, Iran's breakout time — the amount of time it would take to accumulate enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon — was only 2-3 months. After the JCPOA, this timeline was increased to about 12 months


And as said, a more rapid break out option can always be restored. Nothing was lost irreversibly in this respect.

You're ascribing too much importance to a particular aspect that is rather marginal in the big picture.

The Iranian Space Agency was nearly dissolved by the Rouhani administration. We didn't have a successful launch until just recently. Do I need to say more?

Sorry, but this argument is not functional in the context of the present discussion. It shall be reminded that when we're talking about Iran's ballistic missile deterrence, we don't mean possible long-term developments somewhere in the distant future but that which was/is already part of Iran's BM arsenal.

If you're suggesting that some theoretical projects which might have seen the light of day way, way down the road, are the only thing defining Iran's ballistic missile deterrent, then Iran had no concrete, materially existing deterrent to speak of when the JCPOA was agreed upon. Thence in all logic, the JCPOA could not have neutralized that deterrent since it did not concretely exist yet. But you're applying an opposite type of reasoning in the nuclear field, where you won't consider readily existing ingredients for an increase in Iran's enriched uranium stockpile as a sufficient factor of deterrence.

Anyway, the thing that matters here is Iran's existing BM arsenal.

And that latter arsenal has kept being upgraded and expanded since the implementation of the JCPOA. In other words, the JCPOA did not roll back Iran's existing deterrence in terms of operational ballistic missiles; on the contrary, that capability was massively increased, thanks to the IRGC and the Leadership (it's well known that liberals were and are rather opposed to it, so all praise and credit goes to the mentioned institutions).

But even when it comes to the space program, we all saw how the IRGC revealed it had been pursuing its own parallel iteration all along. So Rohani's antics yet again were rendered irrelevant.

All sides have reached a stalemate in Syria. The instability and vulnerability of Syria as one of our main allies in the region go completely against our regional interests.

What has it to do with the JCPOA? Did the JCPOA bring about or faciliate instability in Syria?

Also, many are quick to forget how Iran and particularly the IRGC are masters at turning threats into opportunities, something Hajj Qassem repeatedly insisted on. And so it is that the turmoil in Syria, which ought to have seriously threatened Iran's position in the Levant, unwillingly and paradoxically opened up new opportunities, such as the stationing close to the Golan Heights of military units under direct Iranian command, or Iran's role in supervizing entire brigades if not divisions of the Syrian armed forces including the NDF as well as Sunni tribal elements in the strategic Deir ez-Zour region, something that could not have been envisaged prior to the war.

The fact that the "regime change" project miserably failed due to Iran's intervention completely goes against the interest of Iran's enemies. The fact that they missed the opportunity to cut Iran off from the Mediterranean, which was to be a prelude to some (direct or indirect proxy-)attack on Iran herself following the removal of one of Tehran's main assets of deterrence, namely the supply line to Lebanon's Hezbollah, represents a sound defeat for the enemy. There's no stalemate in Syria, the zio-Americans and their cronies lost the war because they failed to reach their stated goal of "regime change" in Damascus.

Today, the regional hegemony of Israel (which has been non-existent since 1970s in my opinion) is threatened by countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia way more than Iran. If they want to attack a country just for that purpose, they should target Turkey first and then maybe Saudi Arabia.

I don't think I really need to address an argument like this, which claims that a US-client state such as Saudi Arabia, on the verge of normalizing its relations with Tel Aviv, represents a "threat" to the latter. Or Turkey, which has regular diplomatic relations with the zionist entity and no intention of fundamentally questioning said entity's legitimacy.

Again, the above cited comment appears as if it was lifted from Falcon29's rhetoric almost word for word. But even the latter has meanwhile ceased to repeat this delusional belief, seeing how Gulf monarchies have begun to adhere to Kushner's joke of a "peace plan".

As I said, the US is gaining billions of dollars of money through freezing Iranian assets and arms sales to Arabs. Israel is normalizing her relations with all Arab countries one by one, something it couldn't have dreamed of just a decade ago. It seems that the status quo is serving them well and the Islamic Republic has run out of options to change it and honestly, it doesn't seem willing to change it as long as the IR system remains in power.

Sure, the status quo is serving them so well that they are doubling and tripling down on their comprehensive, multi-dimensional efforts to bring about "regime change" in Iran.

Conversely, Iran too isn't interested in challenging the status quo, so much so that this essential point of contention between Tehran and the Washington-Tel Aviv axis no longer exists, which is why Iran is now best friends with the US and is purchasing goods and services from the Americans worth far more than what the Yanks might earn from freezing Iranian assets under a sanctions regime... not!

Of course Isra"el" could have envisaged normalization of ties with Arab regimes a decade ago, since at that point they all (with the exception of Syria, Lebanon and pro-Iranian elements in Iraq, and to some extent Algeria and Sudan) had ceased any meaningful resistance against the occupation of Palestine, and had been refraining from supporting the Palestinian Resistance militarily ever since the Camp David accords.

Previously, before the conservatives become the majority in the parliament, one could blame the inadequate foreign and domestic policies of Iran on the Rouhani administration. But when the impeachment of Rouhani was cancelled, it became evident that Rouhani alone is not responsible for the current situation.

Another faulty conclusion is drawn. Not impeaching Rohani does not make members of Majles responsible for Rohani's policies, nor does it imply that they are endorsing these policies, most of which are going to be revised by Rohani's successor with the full backing of the Majles.

Other than that, Rohani alone isn't at fault for Iran's economic woes indeed, since he shares this burden with the criminal US regime which imposed illegal sanctions on the Iranian people, in pursuit of "regime change", due to the fact that Islamic Iran has been challenging their illegitimate policies for over 40 years.
 
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