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For the love of God not everything is about the workforce, and nobody is saying that we increase the population heiati style, Of course infrastructures should be build for it and the traitors we have in power should get on it right now, But Some tasks simply can't be done in serial, You can't wait for the infrastructures to be built and then increase the population, That would be too little too late, These two things should be done in parallel. And also the policies to keep the population at it's current level will eventually backfire, It backfired for the Chinese, It backfired for the Japanese, It backfired for the Europeans, And is going to backfire for us too, Better not to adopt a policy that already proven to be a failure.

BTW you can at least listen to these guys, These people are like sharks in the water, They already smelled the blood and are jerking of with the thought of us going extinct.
https://pjmedia.com/spengler/norm-not-democracy-norm-extinction/

I knew my country , do you knew yours
you are talking of parallelism but well are you guaranty it happens ? when was the last time that it happened.
If we follow your suggestion , I see a day maybe in 10-20 years that we have 120-150 million population but
the infrastructure for 90 million to 80 million . look at how fast our developmental and infrastructural project
move forward , when was the last time the promised they'll open north freeway ? how delayed is south pars
field development , how many unfinished project we have .
I recall sitting in classes with 5 other student , are you old enough to sit in those classes ?
are you aware how expensive is raising a child ,it's schooling , clothes are you providing for those expenses .
do you knew how is people income these days ?

to me supporting the increase of population right now is like shooting at our head . the quantity of population is
useless what is more important is it's quality .

by the way why we must increase the population what is the problem with our current population ?
 
Iraniran empire before qajar:

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Iran is as big as 22 european countries.

Yazd are Kerman provinces are bigger than G(TINY)BR, UK:

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Iraniran empire before qajar:

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Iran is as big as 22 european countries.

Yazd are Kerman provinces are bigger than G(TINY)BR, UK:

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Well there is no doubt that Qajar dynasty is one of the most useless dynasty in Iran and Aqa Mohammad Khan qajar was more man than all the rest of the dynasty kings together but let be fair . that is not the map of iran at the time.
You knew even this map is somehow flawed .and what we lost in Afghanistan and Pakistan was not that big.
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Seriously the solution to Iran's unemployment is simple. A free market economy.

Do you realize that the oldest alcohol in the entire world has been found in Iran. Do you realize that Iran has wine making tradition which spans thousands of years. Today the "Shiraz" brand of wine is one of the most popular varieties of wine on the market, especially in the west.

I can guarantee that Iran could easily make just as much from producing wine as they do from oil. I'm not even counting other forms of alcohol & liquor.

On top of that there could be lottery, other forms of gambling. Even if Iran just had one city on the coast of the Persian Gulf or Caspian sea with casino's, even if it were just available for foreigners. That's what the Chinese do in Macau & look at how much the city generates.

and then on top of everything else there's tourism. Currently, 5 million people a year visit Iran. Turkey, Iran's neighbor, averages 25 million tourists a year. Iran could potentially do much better. Realistically Iran should be making just as much from tourism as they are from oil. Iran's GDP last year was near 400 billion nominal, 1.6 trillion PPP. With a free market economy, Iran should be able to increase its GDP to atleast 1 trillion per year nominal.

You know, another issue is this. Iran's current unemployment rate stands at around 12-15%. The real number might actually be much higher, especially among youths. However, recently, a few of my family members visited Iran & they told me that no matter where they went, even when they were in the middle of nowhere, people would always offer them liquor & they would look for the slightest hint to flick their fingers and order liquor. According to my sources, even in the middle of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of a desolate highway stop, liquor was brought & offered to them within 5 minutes. It seems that it's easier to buy liquor in Iran then it is in the west. You flick ur finger, u say one word & suddenly a man with a backpack filled with liquor appears.

This makes me wonder, what percentage of Iran's youth and unemployed in general are actually employed within Iran's black market. Whether its smuggling, alcohol, drugs, sex industry, etc the black market is huge. There are no reliable estimates, however I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that a quarter or more of Iran's unemployed are actually employed in the black market.


I knew my country , do you knew yours
you are talking of parallelism but well are you guaranty it happens ? when was the last time that it happened.
If we follow your suggestion , I see a day maybe in 10-20 years that we have 120-150 million population but
the infrastructure for 90 million to 80 million . look at how fast our developmental and infrastructural project
move forward , when was the last time the promised they'll open north freeway ? how delayed is south pars
field development , how many unfinished project we have .
I recall sitting in classes with 5 other student , are you old enough to sit in those classes ?
are you aware how expensive is raising a child ,it's schooling , clothes are you providing for those expenses .
do you knew how is people income these days ?

to me supporting the increase of population right now is like shooting at our head . the quantity of population is
useless what is more important is it's quality .

by the way why we must increase the population what is the problem with our current population ?
 
Seriously the solution to Iran's unemployment is simple. A free market economy.

Do you realize that the oldest alcohol in the entire world has been found in Iran. Do you realize that Iran has wine making tradition which spans thousands of years. Today the "Shiraz" brand of wine is one of the most popular varieties of wine on the market, especially in the west.

I can guarantee that Iran could easily make just as much from producing wine as they do from oil. I'm not even counting other forms of alcohol & liquor.

On top of that there could be lottery, other forms of gambling. Even if Iran just had one city on the coast of the Persian Gulf or Caspian sea with casino's, even if it were just available for foreigners. That's what the Chinese do in Macau & look at how much the city generates.

and then on top of everything else there's tourism. Currently, 5 million people a year visit Iran. Turkey, Iran's neighbor, averages 25 million tourists a year. Iran could potentially do much better. Realistically Iran should be making just as much from tourism as they are from oil. Iran's GDP last year was near 400 billion nominal, 1.6 trillion PPP. With a free market economy, Iran should be able to increase its GDP to atleast 1 trillion per year nominal.

You know, another issue is this. Iran's current unemployment rate stands at around 12-15%. The real number might actually be much higher, especially among youths. However, recently, a few of my family members visited Iran & they told me that no matter where they went, even when they were in the middle of nowhere, people would always offer them liquor & they would look for the slightest hint to flick their fingers and order liquor. According to my sources, even in the middle of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of a desolate highway stop, liquor was brought & offered to them within 5 minutes. It seems that it's easier to buy liquor in Iran then it is in the west. You flick ur finger, u say one word & suddenly a man with a backpack filled with liquor appears.

This makes me wonder, what percentage of Iran's youth and unemployed in general are actually employed within Iran's black market. Whether its smuggling, alcohol, drugs, sex industry, etc the black market is huge. There are no reliable estimates, however I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that a quarter or more of Iran's unemployed are actually employed in the black market.

The problem with people like you is that you have no morals. You only see Dollar signs!
 
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Seriously the solution to Iran's unemployment is simple. A free market economy.

Do you realize that the oldest alcohol in the entire world has been found in Iran. Do you realize that Iran has wine making tradition which spans thousands of years. Today the "Shiraz" brand of wine is one of the most popular varieties of wine on the market, especially in the west.

I can guarantee that Iran could easily make just as much from producing wine as they do from oil. I'm not even counting other forms of alcohol & liquor.

On top of that there could be lottery, other forms of gambling. Even if Iran just had one city on the coast of the Persian Gulf or Caspian sea with casino's, even if it were just available for foreigners. That's what the Chinese do in Macau & look at how much the city generates.

and then on top of everything else there's tourism. Currently, 5 million people a year visit Iran. Turkey, Iran's neighbor, averages 25 million tourists a year. Iran could potentially do much better. Realistically Iran should be making just as much from tourism as they are from oil. Iran's GDP last year was near 400 billion nominal, 1.6 trillion PPP. With a free market economy, Iran should be able to increase its GDP to atleast 1 trillion per year nominal.

You know, another issue is this. Iran's current unemployment rate stands at around 12-15%. The real number might actually be much higher, especially among youths. However, recently, a few of my family members visited Iran & they told me that no matter where they went, even when they were in the middle of nowhere, people would always offer them liquor & they would look for the slightest hint to flick their fingers and order liquor. According to my sources, even in the middle of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of a desolate highway stop, liquor was brought & offered to them within 5 minutes. It seems that it's easier to buy liquor in Iran then it is in the west. You flick ur finger, u say one word & suddenly a man with a backpack filled with liquor appears.

This makes me wonder, what percentage of Iran's youth and unemployed in general are actually employed within Iran's black market. Whether its smuggling, alcohol, drugs, sex industry, etc the black market is huge. There are no reliable estimates, however I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that a quarter or more of Iran's unemployed are actually employed in the black market.
Those are not the solution as long as there is corruption even if the income become 10 time more or you make 500000 more job per year nothing will change.

And all you said is just a little boost the tourism industry that's not enough . it will just make several more Bali in iran it won't help the country that much a healthy development plan most answer all sector of industry, agriculture and entertainment sector not just one sector. Otherwise it'll be replacing oil by something else.
The first step in solving iran problem is answering two problem.
First corruption and then the closing the gap between universities and industries. We must make the training of university students relevant to the realities of our industries and country .
After that we must increase our capabilities in producing science and converting that into actual marketable products.
 
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@Ziggurat “TepeSialk“ what happened? didn't answer me.
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