Iranian Chill Thread

[un4given.1991]

He is Iranian prankster Hooman Nouri

@Full Moon is going to engage with his iranian boyfriend

Awesome ..... I like to see more ISIS Prank Gone Horribly Wrong

 

[Madali]

To all Iranians here who studied to be doctors or studying, why the hell are we so exciting about prescribing medicines? Doctors tell every mother to give iron supplements, A & D supplements, multivitamin supplements, and calcium supplements, and it makes one think that its a wonder that humans have been alive for so long, given that we need so many pills to survive.

I refused to give my baby any of this (except A & D) but it annoys me that whenever I visit ANY doctor, they always go, WHAT, you don't give them IRON drops??? I'm like why should I? I give my kid a healthy diet, but they still insist that if I don't give iron drops. Yesterday a doctor gave me such a guilt trip, that I bought multivitamins, calcium, and iron drops (it came to around 70,000 toman) and when I walked home and looked at all the pills, I thought, "and this all is for a HEALTHY child".

I still don't want to give it to him, but my wife thinks that if she doesn't give it to him, she's a bad mom, and my son will probably grow up to be sick, short, thin, and stupid.

 

[AmirPatriot]

To all Iranians here who studied to be doctors or studying, why the hell are we so exciting about prescribing medicines? Doctors tell every mother to give iron supplements, A & D supplements, multivitamin supplements, and calcium supplements, and it makes one think that its a wonder that humans have been alive for so long, given that we need so many pills to survive.

I refused to give my baby any of this (except A & D) but it annoys me that whenever I visit ANY doctor, they always go, WHAT, you don't give them IRON drops??? I'm like why should I? I give my kid a healthy diet, but they still insist that if I don't give iron drops. Yesterday a doctor gave me such a guilt trip, that I bought multivitamins, calcium, and iron drops (it came to around 70,000 toman) and when I walked home and looked at all the pills, I thought, "and this all is for a HEALTHY child".

I still don't want to give it to him, but my wife thinks that if she doesn't give it to him, she's a bad mom, and my son will probably grow up to be sick, short, thin, and stupid.

Its exactly the opposite in the UK... here you'll be hard pressed to get ANYTHING from a doctor. Most of the time they'll just say "rest and come back if it doesn't get better". Everybody here complains about the lack of prescriptions.

 

[Madali]

Its exactly the opposite in the UK... here you'll be hard pressed to get ANYTHING from a doctor. Most of the time they'll just say "rest and come back if it doesn't get better". Everybody here complains about the lack of prescriptions.

I think I prefer that mentality. I have stopped popping pills. I figure, if I am going to pop any pills, it better get me high, or else, forget it.

 

[mohsen]

To all Iranians here who studied to be doctors or studying, why the hell are we so exciting about prescribing medicines? Doctors tell every mother to give iron supplements, A & D supplements, multivitamin supplements, and calcium supplements, and it makes one think that its a wonder that humans have been alive for so long, given that we need so many pills to survive.

I refused to give my baby any of this (except A & D) but it annoys me that whenever I visit ANY doctor, they always go, WHAT, you don't give them IRON drops??? I'm like why should I? I give my kid a healthy diet, but they still insist that if I don't give iron drops. Yesterday a doctor gave me such a guilt trip, that I bought multivitamins, calcium, and iron drops (it came to around 70,000 toman) and when I walked home and looked at all the pills, I thought, "and this all is for a HEALTHY child".

I still don't want to give it to him, but my wife thinks that if she doesn't give it to him, she's a bad mom, and my son will probably grow up to be sick, short, thin, and stupid.

مقایسه درمان "زخم پای دیابتی" در طب مدرن و طب سنتی + عکس و فیلم (18+)

imagine what they are going to do to us with their genetically modified foods. it's not a medicine, you have to eat it everyday. I truly believe some traitor are running our health sectors.

 

[scythian500]

To all Iranians here who studied to be doctors or studying, why the hell are we so exciting about prescribing medicines? Doctors tell every mother to give iron supplements, A & D supplements, multivitamin supplements, and calcium supplements, and it makes one think that its a wonder that humans have been alive for so long, given that we need so many pills to survive.

I refused to give my baby any of this (except A & D) but it annoys me that whenever I visit ANY doctor, they always go, WHAT, you don't give them IRON drops??? I'm like why should I? I give my kid a healthy diet, but they still insist that if I don't give iron drops. Yesterday a doctor gave me such a guilt trip, that I bought multivitamins, calcium, and iron drops (it came to around 70,000 toman) and when I walked home and looked at all the pills, I thought, "and this all is for a HEALTHY child".

I still don't want to give it to him, but my wife thinks that if she doesn't give it to him, she's a bad mom, and my son will probably grow up to be sick, short, thin, and stupid.

I recently talked about this very same issue with my friend ( an specialist with 40 years of experience).. He is a very progressive doctor and are up to-date. He told me if you are given your kids and other family members a balanced diet then there is no critical problems as you said but:

He said Iranian soil and inland fishes lost the power to enrich food by very important minerals like iodine and Selenium. The latter was the one guilty of soulless color of skin, darkened skins, bad hair, so much cancer, so much liver and kidney problems... He said there is no selenium left in soil... and we need to take the selenium supplement ASAP.

He said specially for those who live in polluted areas with all sorts of heavy metals like lead. Because Selenium is the one that act against these poisonous heavy metals.

This is why he suggested Selenium and iodine as the only two supplements needed only if we have a balanced diet of fish, vegs, fruits, protean, fiber..He recommended a 50 micro gram dose of selen per day for people who have weak status. Only a pill (50) once a week for myself and all other healthy people. and of course consulting your doctor if you are going to give it to children and seek people (including pregnant)..


We have many doctors here... How do you see these Selenium thing ?

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Full Moon and his iranian boyfriend hahahahahahaha

یا خیی... هالزلمه بالصوره تبعتک منه احد الارهاببین مزعومه بانو کان ورا 9/11 بامریکا؟

 

[SALMAN F]

I recently talked about this very same issue with my friend ( an specialist with 40 years of experience).. He is a very progressive doctor and are up to-date. He told me if you are given your kids and other family members a balanced diet then there is no critical problems as you said but:

He said Iranian soil lost its power to enrich food by very important minerals like iodine and Selenium. The latter was the one guilty of soulless color of skin, darkened skins, bad hair, so much cancer, so much liver and kidney problems... He said there is no selenium left in soil... and we need to take the selenium supplement ASAP.

He said specially for those who live in polluted areas with all sorts of heavy metals like lead. Because Selenium is the one that act against these poisonous heavy metals.

This is why he suggested Selenium and iodine as the only two supplements needed only if we have a balanced diet of fish, vegs, fruits, protean, fiber..He recommended a 50 micro gram dose of selen per day for people who have weak status. Only a pill (50) once a week for myself and all other healthy people. and of course consulting your doctor if you are going to give it to children and seek people (including pregnant)..


We have many doctors here... How do you see these Selenium thing ?


یا خیی... هالزلمه بالصوره تبعتک منه احد الارهاببین مزعومه بانو کان ورا 9/11 بامریکا؟

I imagined that full moon is obsessed and hateful like him

 

[mohsen]

I recently talked about this very same issue with my friend ( an specialist with 40 years of experience).. He is a very progressive doctor and are up to-date. He told me if you are given your kids and other family members a balanced diet then there is no critical problems as you said but:

He said Iranian soil lost its power to enrich food by very important minerals like iodine and Selenium. The latter was the one guilty of soulless color of skin, darkened skins, bad hair, so much cancer, so much liver and kidney problems... He said there is no selenium left in soil... and we need to take the selenium supplement ASAP.

He said specially for those who live in polluted areas with all sorts of heavy metals like lead. Because Selenium is the one that act against these poisonous heavy metals.

This is why he suggested Selenium and iodine as the only two supplements needed only if we have a balanced diet of fish, vegs, fruits, protean, fiber..He recommended a 50 micro gram dose of selen per day for people who have weak status. Only a pill (50) once a week for myself and all other healthy people. and of course consulting your doctor if you are going to give it to children and seek people (including pregnant)..


We have many doctors here... How do you see these Selenium thing ?

and probably a few decade later they will notice the consequences of adding that artificial supplements!

like what happened to milk, turning an anti cancer product to a source of cancer, it's part of our capabilities!

http://jamejamonline.ir/sara/2376955889337844734/این-شیرهای-سرطان-زا-را-نخورید

 

[Hack-Hook]

To all Iranians here who studied to be doctors or studying, why the hell are we so exciting about prescribing medicines? Doctors tell every mother to give iron supplements, A & D supplements, multivitamin supplements, and calcium supplements, and it makes one think that its a wonder that humans have been alive for so long, given that we need so many pills to survive.

I refused to give my baby any of this (except A & D) but it annoys me that whenever I visit ANY doctor, they always go, WHAT, you don't give them IRON drops??? I'm like why should I? I give my kid a healthy diet, but they still insist that if I don't give iron drops. Yesterday a doctor gave me such a guilt trip, that I bought multivitamins, calcium, and iron drops (it came to around 70,000 toman) and when I walked home and looked at all the pills, I thought, "and this all is for a HEALTHY child".

I still don't want to give it to him, but my wife thinks that if she doesn't give it to him, she's a bad mom, and my son will probably grow up to be sick, short, thin, and stupid.

well as of my understanding a healthy newborn need Iron supplement because of the low amount of Iron in human breast milk so if a child exclusively receive breast milk after 4 month till he/she manage to it the family food as main food he is at risk of Iron Deficiency so we prescribe Iron drop at those times ,by the way when you give the Irons you find in Iran drugstore to the child you must be too careful about the baby teeth .
about A+D again we have the same problem with vitamin D ,Breast Milk likely won't provide enough vitamin D for the child. so I suggest you gave the child Iron and Vitamin D but the rest of the supplements are nonsense.and you better provide the mother with a balanced diets o she ca gave whats needed to the child.
by the way I see no reason why you must gave the child any multivitamin if the diet is a healthy one and the baby is healthy and have enough outdoor time.

and probably a few decade later they will notice the consequences of adding that artificial supplements!

like what happened to milk, turning an anti cancer product to a source of cancer, it's part of our capabilities!

http://jamejamonline.ir/sara/2376955889337844734/این-شیرهای-سرطان-زا-را-نخورید

چه مقاله مستند و علمی . چه قدر برای ادعاش دلیلهای محکم آورده بود
جانم به اطلاع نویسنده مقاله برسانید که وقتی میخواد خبر علمی بده اول خبر را درست بفهمد. بگذارید اون چیزی را که نویسنده مقاله فراموش کرده بنویسه برایتان توضیح بدم
تحقیقات نشان میدهند که لبنیات با چربی کامل باعث افزایش ریسک سرطانهایی مثل پروستات ، سینه ، تخمدان و ..... میشود
حالا هرکی دلش میخواهد بره برای سلامتی لبنیات سنتی بگیره

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357167/

 

[mohsen]

well as of my understanding a healthy newborn need Iron supplement because of the low amount of Iron in human breast milk so if a child exclusively receive breast milk after 4 month till he/she manage to it the family food as main food he is at risk of Iron Deficiency so we prescribe Iron drop at those times ,by the way when you give the Irons you find in Iran drugstore to the child you must be too careful about the baby teeth .
about A+D again we have the same problem with vitamin D ,Breast Milk likely won't provide enough vitamin D for the child. so I suggest you gave the child Iron and Vitamin D but the rest of the supplements are nonsense.and you better provide the mother with a balanced diets o she ca gave whats needed to the child.
by the way I see no reason why you must gave the child any multivitamin if the diet is a healthy one and the baby is healthy and have enough outdoor time.


چه مقاله مستند و علمی . چه قدر برای ادعاش دلیلهای محکم آورده بود
جانم به اطلاع نویسنده مقاله برسانید که وقتی میخواد خبر علمی بده اول خبر را درست بفهمد. بگذارید اون چیزی را که نویسنده مقاله فراموش کرده بنویسه برایتان توضیح بدم
تحقیقات نشان میدهند که لبنیات با چربی کامل باعث افزایش ریسک سرطانهایی مثل پروستات ، سینه ، تخمدان و ..... میشود
حالا هرکی دلش میخواهد بره برای سلامتی لبنیات سنتی بگیره

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357167/

این تحقیق جدید هست، مقاله ای که لینکش رو دادی خلاصه ای از مقالات مختلف در سالهای گذشته بوده که هیچ کدوم هم به تاثیر اضافه کردن ویتامین دی نپرداخته بودن، در ضمن این خبر تحقیق هست نه خود مقاله علمی
البته میزان مستند و علمی بودن مقاله خودت هم بماند!

تو کدوم یکی از مقاله هات به جامعه آماریشون لبنیات سنتی دادن که حالا واسه ما نتیجه گیری علمی هم رو کردی!؟

 

[Madali]

well as of my understanding a healthy newborn need Iron supplement because of the low amount of Iron in human breast milk so if a child exclusively receive breast milk after 4 month till he/she manage to it the family food as main food he is at risk of Iron Deficiency so we prescribe Iron drop at those times ,by the way when you give the Irons you find in Iran drugstore to the child you must be too careful about the baby teeth .
about A+D again we have the same problem with vitamin D ,Breast Milk likely won't provide enough vitamin D for the child. so I suggest you gave the child Iron and Vitamin D but the rest of the supplements are nonsense.and you better provide the mother with a balanced diets o she ca gave whats needed to the child.
by the way I see no reason why you must gave the child any multivitamin if the diet is a healthy one and the baby is healthy and have enough outdoor time.

But this is a major problem I have with this mentality. Why would breast milk not have enough iron for a baby? Human evolution has gone through millions of years to be where we are today. Why should we reach 2016 and suddenly realize, oh shit, breastmilk doesn't have enough iron. In evolution science, to me the logical course would be if there were several babies born, and one mother had a gene that produced more iron in her breast, and this was beneficial to human beings, than her babies would have a more likelihood to survive, therefore her extra iron genetics would survive for longer and produce more.

Iron in human milk is supposed to be absorbed by the body much more than other iron fortified foods
http://kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/iron/

Here is a publication that mentions that,
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/104/1/119
I quote, ". For example, greater than 50% of iron from human milk is absorbed compared with typically less than 12% of iron from cow milk–derived formula"


One of the side effects of iron supplements is diarrhea. Every doctor shrugs this off as if its no big deal. But diarrhea is the body's way of telling us that what the body is receiving is dangerous. Like vomiting, the body is cleansing itself. From the same article mentioned above,
"The proposed mechanism is that the higher iron content of iron-fortified formulas may saturate lactoferrin, a protein important in protecting the intestine from overgrowth with Escherichia coli. Infants fed iron-fortified formula, partially breastfed infants supplemented with iron-fortified formula, and exclusively breastfed infants who receive iron supplements may have a higher prevalence of E coli in the fecal flora compared with exclusively breastfed infants who receive no iron supplementation. In the latter, lactobacillus predominate"

Check out this study which shows that unnecessary iron adversely affects growth in babies,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421836?dopt=Abstract

And one of the worst aspects of iron drops that is issued in Iran is the psychological factor. Due to evolution, babies are programmed to trust their parents. Its a useful survival trait. So, when a mother gives a baby iron drop, the baby eagerly opens his or her mouth, and then realizes, oh shit, this tastes HORRIBLE. So, the existing trust level is declining. And this is what happens next. Baby stops eating everything mom offers, baby becomes fussy, baby doesn't eat many different kinds of food, baby's diet now is not diverse enough, baby needs a bunch of supplements so they don't get sick, but since supplements are not natural, they continue becoming a very unhealthy baby.

I'm sorry, but this really makes me angry. It's like how most women in Iran are having caesarean surgery instead of natural birth, because caesarean is so convenient for the doctors and hospital, since they can plan it well and schedule patients in such a way to maximize profitability per day, while natural births can be unexpected surprises.

Also, easy-peasy for the moms ,who don't have to have natural births, don't need to breastfeed, and don't have to both with natural, diverse food, since its easier to give cerealac and supplements.

 

[mohsen]

به این میگن یه تلاش سازمان یافته علیه کلینتون:
http://hastidownload.biz/دانلود-فیلم-clinton-cash-2016/

به نظرم ترامپ از قبل انتخاب شده

But this is a major problem I have with this mentality. Why would breast milk not have enough iron for a baby? Human evolution has gone through millions of years to be where we are today. Why should we reach 2016 and suddenly realize, oh shit, breastmilk doesn't have enough iron.

cause aluminum pots became dominant in our kitchen. Aluminum will replace itself in blood; so unless you leave Aluminum behind or Mr evolution decides to build our body with Aluminum! we will continue to have this problem.

 

[Madali]

به این میگن یه تلاش سازمان یافته علیه کلینتون:
http://hastidownload.biz/دانلود-فیلم-clinton-cash-2016/

به نظرم ترامپ از قبل انتخاب شده


cause aluminum jars became dominant in our kitchen. Aluminum will replace itself in blood; so unless you leave Aluminum behind or Mr evolution decides to build our body with Aluminum! we will continue to have this problem.

If iron deficiency is a recent occurrence in the human body, then the medical industry needs to look at the roots, rather then give us pills.

 

[Hack-Hook]

این تحقیق جدید هست، مقاله ای که لینکش رو دادی خلاصه ای از مقالات مختلف در سالهای گذشته بوده که هیچ کدوم هم به تاثیر اضافه کردن ویتامین دی نپرداخته بودن، در ضمن این خبر تحقیق هست نه خود مقاله علمی
البته میزان مستند و علمی بودن مقاله خودت هم بماند!

تو کدوم یکی از مقاله هات به جامعه آماریشون لبنیات سنتی دادن که حالا واسه ما نتیجه گیری علمی هم رو کردی!؟

کدوم تحقیق جدید لطفا لینک اون تحقیق را هم بگذارید تا ما هم بدونیم.
اون لینکها هم خودشان کیفیتشان مشخص است یکی بدون هر گونه رفرنسی هستش اون یکی برای هرچی گفته رفرنسشم هست
در مورد ویتامین دی و سرطان تا حالا که تحقیقها همه بر سر این بوده که ویتامین دی اثر محافظت کننده در برابر انواع سرطانها بخصوص
دستگاه گوارش دارد .
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/vitamin-d-fact-sheet
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470481/

But this is a major problem I have with this mentality. Why would breast milk not have enough iron for a baby? Human evolution has gone through millions of years to be where we are today. Why should we reach 2016 and suddenly realize, oh shit, breastmilk doesn't have enough iron. In evolution science, to me the logical course would be if there were several babies born, and one mother had a gene that produced more iron in her breast, and this was beneficial to human beings, than her babies would have a more likelihood to survive, therefore her extra iron genetics would survive for longer and produce more.

Iron in human milk is supposed to be absorbed by the body much more than other iron fortified foods
http://kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/iron/

Here is a publication that mentions that,
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/104/1/119
I quote, ". For example, greater than 50% of iron from human milk is absorbed compared with typically less than 12% of iron from cow milk–derived formula"


One of the side effects of iron supplements is diarrhea. Every doctor shrugs this off as if its no big deal. But diarrhea is the body's way of telling us that what the body is receiving is dangerous. Like vomiting, the body is cleansing itself. From the same article mentioned above,
"The proposed mechanism is that the higher iron content of iron-fortified formulas may saturate lactoferrin, a protein important in protecting the intestine from overgrowth with Escherichia coli. Infants fed iron-fortified formula, partially breastfed infants supplemented with iron-fortified formula, and exclusively breastfed infants who receive iron supplements may have a higher prevalence of E coli in the fecal flora compared with exclusively breastfed infants who receive no iron supplementation. In the latter, lactobacillus predominate"

Check out this study which shows that unnecessary iron adversely affects growth in babies,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421836?dopt=Abstract

And one of the worst aspects of iron drops that is issued in Iran is the psychological factor. Due to evolution, babies are programmed to trust their parents. Its a useful survival trait. So, when a mother gives a baby iron drop, the baby eagerly opens his or her mouth, and then realizes, oh shit, this tastes HORRIBLE. So, the existing trust level is declining. And this is what happens next. Baby stops eating everything mom offers, baby becomes fussy, baby doesn't eat many different kinds of food, baby's diet now is not diverse enough, baby needs a bunch of supplements so they don't get sick, but since supplements are not natural, they continue becoming a very unhealthy baby.

I'm sorry, but this really makes me angry. It's like how most women in Iran are having caesarean surgery instead of natural birth, because caesarean is so convenient for the doctors and hospital, since they can plan it well and schedule patients in such a way to maximize profitability per day, while natural births can be unexpected surprises.

Also, easy-peasy for the moms ,who don't have to have natural births, don't need to breastfeed, and don't have to both with natural, diverse food, since its easier to give cerealac and supplements.

well caesarean is easier for doctor but not for the mother. and our problem with this procedure is partly due to the fact that they pay a lot less to a doctor in normal delivery compared to C-section while a normal delivery is a lot harder for the doctor.

and well absorption of Iron is easier in mother milk but the amount of the Iron is so low that in many cases that can't compensate the needs of the baby.
also about natural evolution ,well nature prefer to conserve mother rather than the child ,the mother itself need iron,if a mother genetic is so that she produce a milk with less iron then she'll be healthier and can take better care of the children and can produce more children and so that gene have better chance of survival.if the mother produce more Iron in milk then the children like it at the beginning but the mother loose iron specially in primitive societies of let say 50000 years ago she become anemic , and she'll become sic now who is gonna protect the child and take care of him ?

این تحقیق جدید هست، مقاله ای که لینکش رو دادی خلاصه ای از مقالات مختلف در سالهای گذشته بوده که هیچ کدوم هم به تاثیر اضافه کردن ویتامین دی نپرداخته بودن، در ضمن این خبر تحقیق هست نه خود مقاله علمی
البته میزان مستند و علمی بودن مقاله خودت هم بماند!

تو کدوم یکی از مقاله هات به جامعه آماریشون لبنیات سنتی دادن که حالا واسه ما نتیجه گیری علمی هم رو کردی!؟

لبنیات سنتی چربی بالاتری داره و اون چربی بالاتر با سرطان نسبت داره

If iron deficiency is a recent occurrence in the human body, then the medical industry needs to look at the roots, rather then give us pills.

Its not a new problem , we just didn't care about health in last centuries . if any one was sick it was the will of God if anybody died young , he lived his allocated time. people in old days if lived to 50 years were considered quite old

cause aluminum pots became dominant in our kitchen. Aluminum will replace itself in blood; so unless you leave Aluminum behind or Mr evolution decides to build our body with Aluminum! we will continue to have this problem.

شما به میزان 1 بار یک قاشق شربت انتی اسید بخور صد برابر میزانی که در عرض یکسال استفاده از ظروف آلومینیومی جذب بدنتان بشه آلومینیوم به بدنتان میرسه

 

[mohsen]

کدوم تحقیق جدید لطفا لینک اون تحقیق را هم بگذارید تا ما هم بدونیم.
اون لینکها هم خودشان کیفیتشان مشخص است یکی بدون هر گونه رفرنسی هستش اون یکی برای هرچی گفته رفرنسشم هست
در مورد ویتامین دی و سرطان تا حالا که تحقیقها همه بر سر این بوده که ویتامین دی اثر محافظت کننده در برابر انواع سرطانها بخصوص
دستگاه گوارش دارد .
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/vitamin-d-fact-sheet
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470481/

کسی هم نگفته ویتامین دی که به صورت طبیعی توی غذاها هست سرطنزاست ولی حالا چند تحقیق در مورد ویتامین دی که به صورت مصنوعی و به همراه کوفت و زهرمارهای مصنوعی دیگه به شیر اضافه میشه وجود داره؟

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