Iranian Chill Thread

[xenon54 out]

I'm sure Ikhvani Turkey and Qatar will help Israelis instead of Hamas.

What does Ikhvani mean?

 

[rmi5]

all you said is correct except this misunderstanding that is mostly common among Western and Arab media.

They afraid Iran spend more money on Hizbullah, Iraqi Militia, Yemeni, Syrians, etc... This is a pointless argument. All these groups are already equipped enough to last for decades. Most of these groups are somehow self-sufficient with weapons. Iran realized soon enough that she can not support these groups forever, this is why, IRCG sent experts there to transfer the technology and let them produce their weaponry needs.

I don't say Iran will stop spending money on them, but the support will not be increasing in sum. A few decades ago, Iran used to spend nearly $500 millions for Hizbullah alone, but per recent news this numbers are very much lower today. Hizullah now builds its own missiles and ammunition. They are only dependant on Iran for communication systems, new UCAVs, new heavy caliber snipers... other stuff are built locally.

As for Hamas, Iran officially left them alone with their Ikhvani brothers to see how they will help them!! I'm sure Ikhvani Turkey and Qatar will help Israelis instead of Hamas... It is now 3 years that Iran shifted from Hamas to Jahad Eslami and Saberin. The new thing is that their bases are not in Qaza only. Jahad Islami has activities in West Bank..

Iran is trying to open new front around Israel and won't support Hamas the next time they start away they way they used to. Officially Iran will support Hamas by its media and morally but never ever militarily. They proved to be unreliable.

Plus another big misunderstanding is that Iranian government spend exported oil money on its military wings in other countries. This is a big misunderstanding. Iran has two budgets. One is official and is under inspection and is used by government to run the country. The second budget is not consuming budget but a productive one. IRCG is like a country itself economically. Bonyads like Janbazan also uses their revenues to support damaged families of war in Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine. IRCG has mulit-billion dollar industry and service sector under its own control. It has its own factories, service companies (export and import for example). IRCG has its own revenues. They also have a budget from government current budget. IRCG is funding its activities both inside and outside Iran using its own made money.

IRCG recieves budget from government only to fund its national security projects. For example, the R&D is on IRCG itself but mass production of missiles or UAVS or birds by Defense Ministry will be paid by government and from the defense budget.

Making all these weapons needs money. Where does the money come from? It comes from Iranian's pockets, that's what matters. Either they build their weapons, import them from Iran or Russia or China, ... the cost is being paid by Iranians. The same goes for IRGC. IRGC did not inherit all of those companies/banks/... from his dad. They are all legally/illegally founded by Iranians' money.

Again, what is the final goal? Let's assume that Iran encircles Israel, then what's the point? Making some sandal wearing Wahabi arabs like Iran as a result?!!! Israel has a huge stock of nukes which can destroy the whole middle east and also she has missiles and submarines to deliver the nukes to wherever she wants. What has been the outcome for Iran, so far? getting tons of sanctions in return? getting isolated by world powers?

Israel and US are just scapegoats for Iranian governments.

 

[scythian500]

What does Ikhvani mean?

It is not something bad.. It is the name of True Muslims...

 

[xenon54 out]

It is not something bad.. It is the name of True Muslims...

Nah c'mon im not gonna make an issue about it im tired of flame wars anyway, i know you dont think highly about Turks, tell me the truth.

 

[scythian500]

Making all these weapons needs money. Where does the money come from? It comes from Iranian's pockets, that's what matters. Either they build their weapons, import them from Iran or Russia or China, ... the cost is being paid by Iranians. The same goes for IRGC. IRGC did not inherit all of those companies/banks/... from his dad. They are all legally/illegally founded by Iranians' money.

Again, what is the final goal? Let's assume that Iran encircles Israel, then what's the point? Making some sandal wearing Wahabi arabs like Iran as a result?!!! Israel has a huge stock of nukes which can destroy the whole middle east and also she has missiles and submarines to deliver the nukes to wherever she wants. What has been the outcome for Iran, so far? getting tons of sanctions in return? getting isolated by world powers?

Israel and US are just scapegoats for Iranian governments.

Nazare kamele mano mitooni too poste ghablim ke bolande bebini albate be farsi neveshtam... inha hamash dar oon charchoobe... bekhatere hamine ke it does not make sense to some Iranians... bekhatere inke khodeshoon ro ba digarani moghayese mikonan ke hich tanasobi ba ham nadarand... in ye maslaye boland moddate va hame chiz dar hamoon charchoob bayad sanjide beshe... albateh in nazare mane.... bazi ha ham fekr mikonan ke khameni khsoomate shakhsi dare ba ISrael ya USa... It is somehow very naive to thing this of course!

manzoore man toolide dakheli hizbullah in nist ke dige be pool niaz nadaran... I meant they already stockpiled enough of Missiles so they don't need to import or produce in large numbers... I meant... even if they need more... their budget is not going to rise like Arabs and Israel claim... They say, Iran without sanctions will have stronger economy and then will spend more money on Hizbullahs and others... I say, no... they don't need more budget..the current budget works well... Iran won't spend more on them...

Although, in case of Syrian government,... man midoonam ke bakhshe bozorgi az komak haye Iran az tarighe forooshe nafte eraghe... ye bakhshish ham russia komak karde... albate iran ham dare komake mostaghim mikone... vali intori nist ke hamash ro Iran bede...

badesham ISrael aslan oontor ke fekr mikoni nist... bombe atom male injoor dargiriha nist dooste man... agar oonha sub daran ke az harja deleshoon mikhad nuke shelik konan... iran ham inghadr beheshoon nazdike ke harchi delesh mikhad ro ba ya mooshake kootah bord befreste vasate israel... aslan tarse Israel az Iran bekhatere weapons nist.. khodet mashallah adame informed va educatedi hasti...midooni chi migam

 

[rmi5]

Nazare kamele mano mitooni too poste ghablim ke bolande bebini albate be farsi neveshtam... inha hamash dar oon charchoobe... bekhatere hamine ke it does not make sense to some Iranians... bekhatere inke khodeshoon ro ba digarani moghayese mikonan ke hich tanasobi ba ham nadarand... in ye maslaye boland moddate va hame chiz dar hamoon charchoob bayad sanjide beshe... albateh in nazare mane.... bazi ha ham fekr mikonan ke khameni khsoomate shakhsi dare ba ISrael ya USa... It is somehow very naive to thing this of course!

Man ham motevajjeh shodam aziz. Point e man in hast ke in stratgy ye boland moddat e in aghaayaan, natijeh ye mosbati tou siyaasat e khaareji nadaadeh. bahs e man ham, sar e ashkhaas nist. Man ham inke ba'zihaa fekr mikonan ke masalan Ahmadi ya rohani kheyli tou siyaasat e khaareji kaare i hastand, ra ghaboul nadaaram!

 

[scythian500]

Nah c'mon im not gonna make an issue about it im tired of flame wars anyway, i know you dont think highly about Turks, tell me the truth.

Turks are high... I can never deny that!!

Ikhvani = Muslim Bortherhood

or the same:

Ihvanlar kardasi

or something like this!!

Man ham motevajjeh shodam aziz. Point e man in hast ke in stratgy ye boland moddat e in aghaayaan, natijeh ye mosbati tou siyaasat e khaareji nadaadeh. bahs e man ham, sar e ashkhaas nist. Man ham inke ba'zihaa fekr mikonan ke masalan Ahmadi ya rohani kheyli tou siyaasat e khaareji kaare i hastand, ra ghaboul nadaaram!

yek inke Iran rahe digeyee nadare baraye inke dobare abar ghodrat she... va dovoom inke kheili ham movafagh boode... vaghti natijeye ye siasat ro misanji bayad boland moddat negah koni.... yavash yavash brother... yavash yavash... injoor sisatha baraye amrica took centuries... baraye Iran zoodtar natije mide chon eshtebahate USA ro tekrar nemikone....

agha ye chand ta bully daran too kooche footbal bazi mikonan...mano ke koochiktaram az nazare senni vali pooldaram be khatere erse babam bazi nemidan... man chikar bayad bokonam ta bazim bedan?

 

[xenon54 out]

Turks are high... I can never deny that!!

Maybe you should also chill a little bit and get high with us.

 

[rmi5]

Turks are high... I can never deny that!!

Ikhvani = Muslim Bortherhood

Akh = Brother
Ikhwan = Brethren
Ikhwan Al Muslimeen = MB = Ikhwan = Muslim Brotherhood scums

yek inke Iran rahe digeyee nadare baraye inke dobare abar ghodrat she... va dovoom inke kheili ham movafagh boode... vaghti natijeye ye siasat ro misanji bayad boland moddat negah koni.... yavash yavash brother... yavash yavash... injoor sisatha baraye amrica took centuries... baraye Iran zoodtar natije mide chon eshtebahate USA ro tekrar nemikone....

agha ye chand ta bully daran too kooche footbal bazi mikonan...mano ke koochiktaram az nazare senni vali pooldaram be khatere erse babam bazi nemidan... man chikar bayad bokonam ta bazim bedan?

Az key taa haalaa yek keshvar ba isolate shodan va doshman kardan e keshvar haaye mohem bar zed e khodesh va chasbidan be 4 ta keshvar e gedaa goudouleh, abar ghodrat shodeh?
Na aziz jan, in khabaraa ham nist. In aghayoun, vaghti rouye kaar oumadan(1980s) ke owj e communist baazi va pan-islamist baazi boud. bad shaansishoun in boud ke in dore zoud tamoun shod(1990-1995). Vali inha tou oun dore freeze shodan, chon kolli sho'aar daadan va haalaa mesle arreh toushoun gir kardeh. Na mitounan ke in sho'aar ha ra jelo bebaran ke hich faayede i digeh nadaare, va na mitounan aghab neshini konan, chon mitarsan tarafdaar hashoun ra az dast bedan, ...

 

[scythian500]

Akh = Brother
Ikhwan = Brethren
Ikhwan Al Muslimeen = MB = Ikhwan = Muslim Brotherhood scums



Az key taa haalaa yek keshvar ba isolate shodan va doshman kardan e keshvar haaye mohem bar zed e khodesh va chasbidan be 4 ta keshvar e gedaa goudouleh, abar ghodrat shodeh?
Na aziz jan, in khabaraa ham nist. In aghayoun, vaghti rouye kaar oumadan(1980s) ke owj e communist baazi va pan-islamist baazi boud. bad shaansishoun in boud ke in dore zoud tamoun shod(1990-1995). Vali inha tou oun dore freeze shodan, chon kolli sho'aar daadan va haalaa mesle arreh toushoun gir kardeh. Na mitounan ke in sho'aar ha ra jelo bebaran ke hich faayede i digeh nadaare, va na mitounan aghab neshini konan, chon mitarsan tarafdaar hashoun ra az dast bedan, ...

injoori ham mishe goft! ma ke mimirim..vali shoma javoona hastin ke bebinid natijasho...ya iran mishe kharej...ya mishim soumali... omidvaram dovomish nashe...heife shoma nasle javoone tahsil kardast ke soomali beshin..!!

 

[rmi5]

injoori ham mishe goft! ma ke mimirim..vali shoma javoona hastin ke bebinid natijasho...ya iran mishe kharej...ya mishim soumali... omidvaram dovomish nashe...heife shoma nasle javoone tahsil kardast ke soomali beshin..!!

lol, Iran soumaali besho nist, vali khaarej ham nemisheh. Iran niyaaz be adam haye jadid ba fekr haye jadid va khoun e taazeh daareh. hokoumat ham baayad yaad begire ke ba mardomesh baayad bishtar raah biyaad, va az sho'aar kam bekoneh. Javoun haye in dore zamouneh, be sho'aar digeh kheyli kaari nadaaran, natijeh ye amali doust daaran bebinan.

 

[scythian500]

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[Henry ME 95]

I just wanted to come on here and congratulate all of you Iranians on this thread and forum.
THE DEAL IS OFFICIALLY STRUCK AND THE SANCTIONS ARE GOING!
CHEERS to the Iranian nation may you last forever.

 

[Shahryar Hedayati]

بعد از اینکه تحریم‌های بانکی شدت گرفت، ایران در مرحله اول با تبدیل پول‌ها به یورو و انتقال آن از طریق هالک بانک، عملیات مبادلاتی را تا حدودی انجام می‌داد که بعد از مدتی این کانال ارتباطی هم با اعمال تحریم مسدود شد.

مدتی بعد بانک مرکزی از طریق خرید طلا و فروش آن در بازارهای جهانی سعی در ایجاد تامین منابع ارزی برای کشور برآمد که پس از مدتی، دارایی‌های طلای ایران هم تحریم شد.

در توافق ژنو که آذر 92 انجام شد، تحریم فلزات گران‌بها برای ایران برداشته شد اما اجرای این توافق تا تیر ماه جاری به طول انجامید تا اینکه در دهم تیر ماه خبر آزادسازی 13 تن طلای ایران منتشر شد.

رئیس کل بانک مرکزی ارزش طلای آزاد شده را 700 میلیون دلار عنوان کرده و گفته بود: علاوه بر این طی دو سال گذشته 8 تن طلا به ارزش 400 میلیون دلار خریداری و وارد کشور شده است.

از طرف دیگر بعد از توافق ژنو در مرحله اول 4.2 میلیارد دلار و در مرحله دوم 2.8 میلیارد دلار از پول‌های بلوکه شده آزاد شد. همچنین بعد از توافق لوزان در فروردین، ماهانه 700 میلیون دلار از پول‌های بلوکه شده آزاد و به حساب بانک مرکزی واریز می‌شد که بر اساس آن باید تا کنون 2.8 میلیارد دلاری نیز از این طریق آزاد شده باشد.

با احتساب این برداشت و انتقال‌ها، به عدد 100 میلیارد دلار پول بلوکه شده که در ابتدای اعمال تحریم‌‌ها اعلام شد، می‌توان بسیار نزدیک شد. مجموع این نقل و انتقال‌ها و منابع بلوکه شده که توسط وزیر اقتصاد، رئیس کل بانک مرکزی، آزاد‌سازی طلا، واریز 7 میلیارد دلار در دو مرحله به حساب بانک مرکزی و پرداخت ماهانه 700 میلیون دلار، به عدد 96.9 میلیارد دلار می‌رسیم.

همچنین باید به این مساله توجه داشت که در دوران تحریم، مسائل تا حدودی در هاله ابهام قرار می‌گیرد و برخی اقدامات چندان برای عموم مردم و رسانه‌ها تشریح نمی‌شود. چنانکه ایران در بسیاری از موارد به دلیل مشکل نقل و انتقال وارد معاملات نفت در برابر کالا با طرف‌های تجاری خود می‌شد. از طرف دیگر باید این را هم در نظر گرفت که 100 میلیارد دلار، رقمی قطعی و رسمی نبوده و در این سال‌ها به صورت برآوردی و حدودی عنوان شده است.

 

[Shahryar Hedayati]

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