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@rahi2357

To be fair, who's fault was this ghaher situation? It was Iran's own fault, more specifically that moronic ahmadinejad administration. To be frank, the more ghaher is reminded , the better, because you see just how incompetent some people in Iran are today. They said ahmadinjead was an engineer :lol: I doubt that guy even had a high school physics qualification. No person in the right mind would say the things he said when he was standing next to a clear mockup. I am not even going to repeat what he said.

The problem I have is this. These moronic unveiling are not stopping. They repeat them every now and then, even though they're not as bad as ghaher, they're still pathetic.

Iran is making some serious real achievements, in the missile field for example...why dilute the importance of those achievement in the eyes of the world by unveiling some retarded mockup elsewhere?

As for Borhan, the payload is bad because it's a small plane and Iran does not have access to a decent engine for it.
 
@rahi2357

To be fair, who's fault was this ghaher situation? It was Iran's own fault, more specifically that moronic ahmadinejad administration. To be frank, the more ghaher is reminded , the better, because you see just how incompetent some people in Iran are today. They said ahmadinjead was an engineer :lol: I doubt that guy even had a high school physics qualification. No person in the right mind would say the things he said when he was standing next to a clear mockup. I am not even going to repeat what he said.

The problem I have is this. These moronic unveiling are not stopping. They repeat them every now and then, even though they're not as bad as ghaher, they're still pathetic.

Iran is making some serious real achievements, in the missile field for example...why dilute the importance of those achievement in the eyes of the world by unveiling some retarded mockup elsewhere?

As for Borhan, the payload is bad because it's a small plane and Iran does not have access to a decent engine for it.

daghighan dorosteh. ta zamaani ke moshkel e engine dorost nasheh, ba J-85, chizi behtar az F-5 e upgrade shode nemisheh daasht. Iran ya baayad yek te'daad e ziyaadi engine az Russia, ya China bekhareh(masalan 500-1000 ta RD-33) ya inke haddeaghal baayad 15-20 saal ta mass production e yek fighter jet e dorost hesaabi(chizi behtar az saaegheh va azarakhsh) sabr kard ta yek engine e be dard bekhor develop besheh.
 
فعلا چیزی که روشن هست اینه که در یک جنگ احتمالی همه جانبه ایران برتری هوایی رو از دست میده
به همین دلیل هست که نیروهای نظامی ایران اینقدر بر نبرد نامتقارن پافشاری می کنند

به نظر می رسه راهبرد ایران برای ساعت اولیه جنگ این هست
اول پیش بینی حمله صد درصد, با رادار پیش اخطار و حمله موشکی به دشمن قبل از رسیدن هواپیما ها

پدافند فقط مناسب حملات کوچک و جزئی است
در جنگ های بزرگ کمر پدافند شکسته میشه
چون تحرک نداره



یه چند تا مستند وکتاب در مورد 3 روز اول جنگ اول و دوم خلیج فارس مطالعه کنید ... همه چی دستتون میاد
 
daghighan dorosteh. ta zamaani ke moshkel e engine dorost nasheh, ba J-85, chizi behtar az F-5 e upgrade shode nemisheh daasht. Iran ya baayad yek te'daad e ziyaadi engine az Russia, ya China bekhareh(masalan 500-1000 ta RD-33) ya inke haddeaghal baayad 15-20 saal ta mass production e yek fighter jet e dorost hesaabi(chizi behtar az saaegheh va azarakhsh) sabr kard ta yek engine e be dard bekhor develop besheh.

I have no idea why this engine development is taking so long? I understand the difficulties in developing a jet engine but Iran is not backward in science. Iran cannot be that far behind in metallurgy. The Russians made the Rd-33 about 40 years ago. wtf is this?

At this rate, by the time Iran is ready to start mass producing a decent jet, the world would either be moved on to UCAV's or 6th gen + would already be here.

I had said for a long time there are two major fields Iran should invest heavily in. One is electronics (microprocessors etc) and the other engines development and its related components, i.e metallurgy. Look at Iran's space program, the development is slow because there is no decent rocket engines development happening yet. And you know the situation with jet engines/fighter jets.

I don't know why the main obstacle is in Iran regarding these development. But I guarantee you, mismanagement is playing a big role here.

:tup::lol:
Hala jalebesh midooni chiye ? hey hardafe khabarnegar ha masoolin e defayi e in dolat ro gir mindazand o az qaher miporsan hamashoun tafre miran . tou ye barname zende ba'd az ronamayiye saeghe 2 kabine mojri goft : bebakhshid kheylia alan sms dadand goftan az qaher che khabar tou che marhaleyi hast ?kholase hey soal pichesh mikard
taraf ham hey migoft : oon marbout be maa nist . Oon projhe ro ye organe dige masooleshe :lol: (yani hata masooline rade balaye nezami ham nemidonand ???!! )
ye ja dige ham az vazire defae fe'li khabarnegar porsid az qaher che khabar? .saresho andakht zir o ba ye haalate akhm javab dad : bara emsal nist . ( hamin ) :frown: :lol:

ey ahmadiii.... :cheesy:

:rofl::rofl::lol:

Khak to sareshoon. At least this new defence minister seems to be more wise.
Az harfa ke shoma zadin dige maloom hast ke in ghaher hichee joz ye doroogh a makhsareh nabood. Makhsareh baraye doshmanye ma va na mardome badbakhtamoon. :frown:
 
The Russians made the Rd-33 about 40 years ago. wtf is this?
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محض اطلاع روسها دانش فنی طراحی و ساخت جت رو به طور کامل از انگلیس خریدند
ان هم با تمامی جزئیات و با قیمت بسیار زیاد

همان موقع هم امریکا خیلی ناراحت بود ولی چون انگلیس تو رکود بزرگ بعد از جنگ بود مجبور شد تکنولوژی ترانسفر کنه

قسمت جالبش اینجا هست
امریکا به تمامی ایرلاین ها دستور داده بود از خاک شوروی عبور نکنند
چرا که ممکن هست مجبور به فرود بشوند و روسها به موتور جنرال اکتریک دسترسی پیدا کنند

البته حق هم داشت چون بعد از ساخته شدن موتور جت در شوروی
شوروی تعداد زیادی از همون جت جنگنده ها رو به کره شمالی داد تا با نیروهای سازمان ملل ( همون امریکا و انگلیس خودمون) بجنگند

خلاصه از همون دست بدی از همون دست می گیری
 
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I have no idea why this engine development is taking so long? I understand the difficulties in developing a jet engine but Iran is not backward in science. Iran cannot be that far behind in metallurgy. The Russians made the Rd-33 about 40 years ago. wtf is this?
Azize dele baradar hame , hatta chalgooz abad ham midoone ye jet engine az chi saakhte shode va che ajzaayi daare . vali chera in 200 ta keshvar va hata china nemitoune engine dorost kone ?
zirsaakhtesho nadarand dige ! ba 2 ta sooleye khaali ke nemishe engine tolid kard . ba budgete 10 billion defayi ke 9 billionesh be zoor kafaafe hoghooghe karkonan ro mide chetor mikhan zirsaakhte teste engine besaazand ??
alan kaafiye beri wikipedia va hazineye developmente 4 gen fighters ro check koni ta bebini aslan iran poolesho ham nadare bahse in nist ke chera ma mochalim . No Money ! No Honey !
 
Azize dele baradar hame , hatta chalgooz abad ham midoone ye jet engine az chi saakhte shode va che ajzaayi daare . vali chera in 200 ta keshvar va hata china nemitoune engine dorost kone ?
zirsaakhtesho nadarand dige ! ba 2 ta sooleye khaali ke nemishe engine tolid kard . ba budgete 10 billion defayi ke 9 billionesh be zoor kafafe hoghooghe karkonan ro mide chetor mikhan zirsaakhte teste engine besaazand ??
alan kaafiye beri wikipedia va hazineye developmente 4 gen fighters ro chek koni ta bebini aslan iran poolesho ham nadare bahse in nist ke chera ma mochalim . No Money ! No Honey !

همه چیز رو همه نمی دونند
اصل مشکل ایران الیاژ و کریستال هست که با هیچ فرمولی ریاضی به طور کامل ساخته نمیشه
مهمترین نحوه بدست اوردنش , ازمون و خطا و ازمایش تمامی حالات منطقی برای ساخت پره موتور هست
که نیاز به پول داره


قضیه الیاژ موتور شباهت عجیبی به مواد رادار گریز داره
هر دوشون به سختی و با خرج کردن پول و وقت به دست می ایند

هر وقت روسیه و چین تونستند مواد رادار گریز بسازند , ایران هم می تونه موتور جت تولید کنه
زمان می بره
 
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@Irfan Baloch

i'm truly sorry for what you did in that thread . may sectarianism die in the hearts of the people

@Khalid Newazi my dearest bro , Tnx for your input in qaher thread .

Qaher will indeed fly . that mockup sucked big time
very sorry for resorting to ban you in that thread
we were on different frequency it seems. so blinded that you cant even decipher my signature.
my stance is beyond race, religion, sect, faith or sexual orientation.

Amen to your prayer
 
محض اطلاع روسها دانش فنی طراحی و ساخت جت رو به طور کامل از انگلیس خریدند
ان هم با تمامی جزئیات و با قیمت بسیار زیاد

همان موقع هم امریکا خیلی ناراحت بود ولی چون انگلیس تو رکود بزرگ بعد از جنگ بود مجبور شد تکنولوژی ترانسفر کنه

قسمت جالبش اینجا هست
امریکا به تمامی ایرلاین ها دستور داده بود از خاک شوروی عبور نکنند
چرا که ممکن هست مجبور به فرود بشوند و روسها به موتور جنرال اکتریک دسترسی پیدا کنند

البته حق هم داشت چون بعد از ساخته شدن موتور جت در شوروی
شوروی تعداد زیادی از همون جت جنگنده ها رو به کره شمالی داد تا با نیروهای سازمان ملل ( همون امریکا و انگلیس خودمون) بجنگند

خلاصه از همون دست بدی از همون دست می گیری

Aziz jan, bishtar misheh goft ke rous ha, technology ra az rolls royes e engelestan dozdidand!!! Ageh dastanesh ra bekhouni, daastaan e jaalebu hast vaghean!!!
 
@Irfan Baloch You have banned me in ME section will u unban me?
I can unban you from posting thee if you promise not no initiate, indulge or respond to controversial, offensive postings that are sectarian or racist in particular or anything else which causes flaming.

time and again I am asked why I banned them although they "only" responded to an offensive post by responding offensively and in same manner. well the answer lies in their own admission.


if I have your word that you wont disappointment me and @Serpentine then I will unban you.
 
@The Last of us @rahi2357 @Shahryar Hedayati
Azizan, man ye meghdaari raaje be maajaraaye in engine, ... midounam. Belakhareh chand ta az doustaam tou MAPNA kaar mikonan, va yek te'daad doust e metalurgist ham dar Iran daaram ke rou in chizha kaar mikonan.
Chand ta ghaziyeh matrah hast. @Serpentine mitouneh confirm bekoneh ke saakht e single crystal blade, che ghadr kaar e sakhti hast. be ma'ni ye vaghe'i ye kalameh, az sakht taring kaar haye engineering hast. Sarmaayeh ziyaad, Tajrobeh, emkaanaat e saakht, va nirouye ensaani ye ghavi mikhaad. Iran sarmaayeh gozaari ye kaafi dar in zamineh nakardeh. Hadde aghal, 5-10 billion dollar sarmaayeh laazem hast ta be mass production e yek engine e khoub resid. Be alaaveh tajrobeh ham mohem hast. dar in zamineh ha, Iran keshvar e kheyli javaani hast, dar haali ke rolls royce, amricayi ha, ... chandin daheh tajrobeh daarand! ba yek barnaameh ye 15 saaleh, ba saali 1 billion dollars sarmaayeh gozaari, misheh be mass production e yek engine kheyli aali resid.
In harf hayi ham ke ba'zi ha mizanand, ke masalan ma ghablan engine e F-16 boland kardim va az roush copy misaazim, ... ham BS hast ;) saakht e engine, ageh be in saadegi boud ke ...
Dar mored e microelectronics ham ageh khaastid, mitounam behetoun tozih bedam.

I can unban you from posting thee if you promise not no initiate, indulge or respond to controversial, offensive postings that are sectarian or racist in particular or anything else which causes flaming.

time and again I am asked why I banned them although they "only" responded to an offensive post by responding offensively and in same manner. well the answer lies in their own admission.


if I have your word that you wont disappointment me and @Serpentine then I will unban you.

No offense, but your post is a joke. Comparing the horde of trolls, ISIS supporters, racists, and takfiris roaming freely in the Middle East section, 2800 is like an innocent child.
 
I can unban you from posting thee if you promise not no initiate, indulge or respond to controversial, offensive postings that are sectarian or racist in particular or anything else which causes flaming.

time and again I am asked why I banned them although they "only" responded to an offensive post by responding offensively and in same manner. well the answer lies in their own admission.


if I have your word that you wont disappointment me and @Serpentine then I will unban you.
It is very funny because I never (90% of times) used offences or insults. Very funny..... . You have closed 60% of my threads while you do not close anti Iranian threads in me section. Another funny thing is that an nuts Arab insults us ethnicity by calling "farsi" and bringing "terrorist mullahs" in every thread. Please show me only one time that I have insulted a race ethnicity? Please stop your censorship since it would not work in 2015.
 
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