Iranian Air Defense Systems

[Draco.IMF]

"end of current Iranian year" could be next possible date of unveiling, but I have doubts, we will see....

 

[WinterNights]

I don't understand why people are so eager to have to see bavar be shows to public? Who cares when they unveil it as long as it is ready? They're probably now focused on working on readying the mass production factories before officially unveiling it...

 

[Draco.IMF]

Bavar-373 is functionally ready (which is what really matters), they just have not revealed it fully yet. Look at Fateh submarine, Iran will not reveal these strategic systems until they have passed all their rigorous tests up to high standards. Bavar has passed all such tests and is very close to its fully unveil date.

yeah, take the sublaunched missile for example which was shown some days ago
there were pictures of this model in a tube dated back to 2012!, but we only saw it now, 6-7 years later....
so it could be same with B-373, its already functional but we have to wait some more years to see it in public

I don't understand why people are so eager to have to see bavar be shows to public?

because we have waited so long and we would love to see this beast in action

And B-373 is not a weapon like any other one, its THE weapon which could reshape the middle east, a truly gamechanger....so yeah, thats the reason why we are crazy about it

 

[WinterNights]

yeah, take the sublaunched missile for example which was shown some days ago
there were pictures of this model in a tube dated back to 2012!, but we only saw it now, 6-7 years later....
so it could be same with B-373, its already functional but we have to wait some more years to see it in public

Yes, we just need to be happy in the fact that it is ready. I much rather see it unveiled once they have actually started the mass production.

 

[TheImmortal]

yeah, take the sublaunched missile for example which was shown some days ago
there were pictures of this model in a tube dated back to 2012!, but we only saw it now, 6-7 years later....
so it could be same with B-373, its already functional but we have to wait some more years to see it in public



because we have waited so long and we would love to see this beast in action

And B-373 is not a weapon like any other one, its THE weapon which could reshape the middle east, a truly gamechanger....so yeah, thats the reason why we are crazy about it

B-373 will not reshape the Middle East any more than Turkey or Saudi Arabia will reshape the Middle East by having the S-400.

It’s an air defense system (first generation) people, not a 6th gen AI powered terminator.

It will at least protect Iran’s skies better and make it more costly for air strikes.

But let me tell you this, prior to civil war Syria had one of the densest and protected air defense of any country even Iran at the time per US generals. And yet Israel was still able to strike all the way inside Deir-ez-Zor nuclear reactor.

 

[Tokhme khar]

That so called Syrian reactor strike was carried out by the IDF using Turkish airspace.

And no shit, Syria was not expecting it from that direction.

B-373 will not reshape the Middle East any more than Turkey or Saudi Arabia will reshape the Middle East by having the S-400.

It’s an air defense system (first generation) people, not a 6th gen AI powered terminator.

It will at least protect Iran’s skies better and make it more costly for air strikes.

But let me tell you this, prior to civil war Syria had one of the densest and protected air defense of any country even Iran at the time per US generals. And yet Israel was still able to strike all the way inside Deir-ez-Zor nuclear reactor.

 

[TheImmortal]

That so called Syrian reactor strike was carried out by the IDF using Turkish airspace.

And no shit, Syria was not expecting it from that direction.

Baloney. Only a foolish idiot would expect Israel to fly right through the heart of Syria and Syrian air defenses to get to eastern Syria.

There were only two viable options through Jordan and up the right side or from the Mediterranean through Lebanon and the Turkish border.

Your logic is also flawed because Syrian longer range radars can pick up any Israeli F-16’s leaving Israeli airspace and track through Lebanon and Turkey. Syria has/had plenty of radars stationed on Turkish side as the heart of Alawite territory is runs along the coast.

The raid was actually more complex then that and included blinding radar points and jamming.

The real answer is a syria didn’t think Israel knew. And if Syria didn’t think Israel knew and if the project is top secret only upper brass know, then certain anomalies that night get disregarded by AD team or result in delayed reaction.

Anyway the point was that no matter how dense an AD, it all comes down to capabilty of crew and how well you can overcome your enemies tricks.

Bavar-373 will bolster Iran’s AD system tremendously just based on the fact enemy hasn’t trained against it and the code is Iranian.

But reshape the middle east? Not even close

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

It's been a few years since I followed this forum and I registered this year. Dear TheImmortal your analyzes are often very painful to read. About Bavar 373 you will have big surprise. Yes, it will be the first generation but this first generation will be unique in the world. A new generation of air defense system science. Russia, the US, China, Israel and other countries will be surprised by the Bavar 373 ... it arrives soon and the news will circumnavigate the world and analysts will fall on the *** ...

It already seems rumored that Iran is working on Bavar 373 II for hypersonic missile interception. A form of Iranian S-500. Iranian scientists are really on a mission to surpass themselves. The manufacture of Bavar 373 raised the scientific level of Iranian scientists

 

[TheImmortal]

It's been a few years since I followed this forum and I registered this year. Dear TheImmortal your analyzes are often very painful to read. About Bavar 373 you will have big surprise. Yes, it will be the first generation but this first generation will be unique in the world. A new generation of air defense system science. Russia, the US, China, Israel and other countries will be surprised by the Bavar 373 ... it arrives soon and the news will circumnavigate the world and analysts will fall on the *** ...

It already seems rumored that Iran is working on Bavar 373 II for hypersonic missile interception. A form of Iranian S-500. Iranian scientists are really on a mission to surpass themselves. The manufacture of Bavar 373 raised the scientific level of Iranian scientists

My friend....I been following the Iranian military developments for over 15 years.

I bring logic to an otherwise optimistic group. If you have inside information (I doubt it) then that’s one thing. I rely on what’s been leaked and available through public source.

Bavar 373 is a national priority project and I have never underestimated its importance. However, I will challenge those that think it will radically reshape the landscape outside of Iran.

Iran is not being attacked at the homeland (minus cowardly terrorism) it is being attack on the outer edges of its reach (Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon). It is being pressured in order to cut that reach and force the war machine into retreat.

Defensive weapons raise the cost for the enemy, but they don’t eliminate it. In a full blown war, Iran’s air defense system will simply be overwhelmed even with bavar-373, if the adversary is the US.

It is unrealistic to think Iran’s air defense systems are enough to protect against saturation wave attacks and may never be if your adversary fields 600+ warplanes and CMs in tens of thousands. There simply isn’t enough interceptor missiles to counter all that at a cost benefit rationale.

Lastly, air defenses increase possibility of BM interception but let’s be realistic unless you are intercepting a SCUD or low technology missile where warhead and body do not detach, chances of interception are low but still better than nothing.

If you can claim otherwise, then that would make Iran’s entire defense doctrine (Based on BMs) also in jeopardy.

Since Iran continues to increase BM count it can be reasoned that Iran’s leadership believes current ADs cannot intercept a significant amount of BMs at a successful rate. And if you can’t intercept a BM at a successful rate then you certainly aren’t going to intercept a Hypersonic Glide Vehicle.

So Russia may claim they will be able to intercept HGV’s yet at the same time they claim their own HGV is indefensible.

 

[Draco.IMF]

B-373 will not reshape the Middle East any more than Turkey or Saudi Arabia will reshape the Middle East by having the S-400

By reshape I mean in an militarily and strategically way, and yes, sure it will!
For decades Israel enjoyed total dominance by air, violating other countries airspace and bombing everything in name of so called "self defence" without fearing consequences...these days are over...
They already got a taste of it in Syria

Turkish/Saudi Arabian S-400 will be heavy downgraded (export versions), there are in noy way a match to B-373
+ im sure russians can deactivate them, whereas B-373´s codes are totally unknown..

In an full out war the airspace from the Mediterranean Sea through to the Persian Gulf will be not safe for them.
Im sure they will get the surprise already in the Lebanon airspace..

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

The Immortal still comes back to us with a weak analysis. Sorry but Iran is in the club of the 4 greatest powers in Air Defense and will not be overwhelmed by the US. Your 15 years of research are not very useful. In addition, the artillery will do a lot of interception in the last seconds of approach missile. The Bavar 373 is unique in the world and very powerfull, you will see very soon. The ability of many powerful radar in the country and the super capacity in electronic warfare makes Iran highly protected ...

And you seriously think that the US launchers and their planes will not be reached? You are not really serious, sir. And the number of defense system is already incredible in the country and it will increase again. You see too many Americans film because their army is presented as the most powerful force in the universe by destroying aliens far more powerful than themselves.

Stop speculating and do the lessons to the Iranian scientists who are made much further than you think. The Irannians should do this and that but stop this because they are made much further than your advice and reflections

 

[GWXP]

If to deploy Bavar 373 in the Straight of Hormuz---it will paralyze US air force, thus securing Iranian speedboats which will be safely mining the Straight of Hormuz

Also Bavar 373 will make potential Israeli air assault much less effective and increase the loss rate of US air force

But note that in all out war no air defense system in the world can match US air power and its anti-radiation capabilities.

So Bavar-373 is a game changer in the Straight of Hormuz (guaranteeing that Iran will successfully mine the Straight before US air power will be able to do something about it) and a game changer when it comes to threats from Israeli air force

Also Bavar 373 will complicate potential US war against Iran, because USA will have to 1) spend many days first to clean Straight of Hormuz and oil rich Persian Gulf from Iranian air defenses by committing substantial portion of its air power for anti-radiation operations 2) destroy Iranian navy for preventing it from harassing oil tankers 3) and only when Bavar 373 in the Persian Gulf is paralyzed and navy is destroyed ----only then US can attack targets deep inside Iran

So Bavar 373 will help Iran to buy time

 

[Draco.IMF]

The "Exploration" radar is one of the radar shields of the Ministry of Defense, which is the result of reverse engineer or upgrading the Russian radar.
Explore and Costa is a specialist in the discovery of low-level targets such as cruise missiles, helicopters and UAVs. Command and energy cameras are integrated into a car.

MERSAD AD SYSTEM CLOSE VIEW:

New missile defense system "Morsad 2" launcher

The system uses missiles similar to the "standard" and "altar" missiles for short-range and medium-range bird interactions.

The military's "effort" defense project is likely to be filled with this version

 

[sha ah]

The Iraqi's & Syrians were both quite foolish with their nuclear programs. They should have known the Israeli's would target their reactors, especially Syria after seeing what happened to Saddam's reactor decades earlier.

They should have built heavily fortified underground facilities preferably underneath mountain ranges protected by their best air defense batteries. They should not have put all their eggs in one basket, depending merely on one site for their entire program.

Well at least Iran got it right where both Syria & Iraq got it wrong.

That so called Syrian reactor strike was carried out by the IDF using Turkish airspace.

And no shit, Syria was not expecting it from that direction.

 

[sanel1412]

The "Exploration" radar is one of the radar shields of the Ministry of Defense, which is the result of reverse engineer or upgrading the Russian radar.
Explore and Costa is a specialist in the discovery of low-level targets such as cruise missiles, helicopters and UAVs. Command and energy cameras are integrated into a car.


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MERSAD AD SYSTEM CLOSE VIEW:

New missile defense system "Morsad 2" launcher

The system uses missiles similar to the "standard" and "altar" missiles for short-range and medium-range bird interactions.

The military's "effort" defense project is likely to be filled with this version

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That radar Costa...it is Kasta 2E radar,it is wrongly named or maybe original text was translated and name was translated wromgly.Any way,it can be used as standalone but mostly it is used with Tor,Pantsir and Buk as as search and acquisition radar...I think it is 150km range and it is very acurate thus it is capable to identify low RCS objects...it is specialized for low altitudes...