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Iran to Purchase Russian Satellite Equipment, Superjet in $21Bln Deal

Well, then it would be kinda, ... strange ... if no to say more...
Russian was for years critisized by west for "supporting offencive Iran", made a lot in UN, including (as many resources're saying) prevented agression of EU/uas/Israel coalition against Iran. After all that Iran's gov (and actually sosiety too) should be very ... weird ... to go that deep "kissings" with those who humiliated you so long. If I were in place of Iran, I would just think: "well, I'd rather go supporting Russian and other countries industries + cooperate with them gaining TOT, expertise etc. to always have alternative to wester tech, which makes them (the west) so arrogant towards other nations and actually belive that they're only humans and all others are sorta subhumans (and the one having eyes could clearly see it in modern europ/west, just see the ugly person as markuss.151420 in other tipic related, so you could clearly see, it would be like a woman would go and praise, and give everything to someone who just brutally raped her )"
Cheers

Stating all above, I mean : have self respect, and don't "buy" shit like

Have a nice day

to add more: Pakistan, Iran, all other countries of the region should really consider their interest (and they would find that - HAVING MORE CHOICE IS NOTHING ELSE THAN GREATE then just living in the world of solid western dominance) and unite with Russian, Chine, themselfs and all other nations, create a thechological alliances and develop their own economies togather, rather then just being slaves of the west; cuz (having) CHOISE is the thing to fight for in this life!
From the point of tech/quality/reliability isses Russia have been in AeroSpace field from the beginning; From Zhukovsky (Nikolay Yegorovich Zhukovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), Igor Sikorsky to Mil, Kamov, Tupolev, Ilyushin and many, many more greate scientists who were working hard to make this world better. So, kinda Russian has huge exprerience/expertise withing the tech in general, and Aerospace in particular = it knows how to make very greate RELIABLE planes.

I think there are communication issues in Iran. Could be related to the UNSC meet of Today.
 
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So that wasn't manufactured in Iran? I thought they have reached self-sufficiency in that too.
 
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Well, then it would be kinda, ... strange ... if no to say more...
Russian was for years critisized by west for "supporting offencive Iran", made a lot in UN, including (as many resources're saying) prevented agression of EU/uas/Israel coalition against Iran. After all that Iran's gov (and actually sosiety too) should be very ... weird ... to go that deep "kissings" with those who humiliated you so long. If I were in place of Iran, I would just think: "well, I'd rather go supporting Russian and other countries industries + cooperate with them gaining TOT, expertise etc. to always have alternative to wester tech, which makes them (the west) so arrogant towards other nations and actually belive that they're only humans and all others are sorta subhumans (and the one having eyes could clearly see it in modern europ/west, just see the ugly person as markuss.151420 in other tipic related, so you could clearly see, it would be like a woman would go and praise, and give everything to someone who just brutally raped her )"
Cheers

Stating all above, I mean : have self respect, and don't "buy" shit like

Have a nice day

to add more: Pakistan, Iran, all other countries of the region should really consider their interest (and they would find that - HAVING MORE CHOICE IS NOTHING ELSE THAN GREATE then just living in the world of solid western dominance) and unite with Russian, Chine, themselfs and all other nations, create a thechological alliances and develop their own economies togather, rather then just being slaves of the west; cuz (having) CHOISE is the thing to fight for in this life!
From the point of tech/quality/reliability isses Russia have been in AeroSpace field from the beginning; From Zhukovsky (Nikolay Yegorovich Zhukovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), Igor Sikorsky to Mil, Kamov, Tupolev, Ilyushin and many, many more greate scientists who were working hard to make this world better. So, kinda Russian has huge exprerience/expertise withing the tech in general, and Aerospace in particular = it knows how to make very greate RELIABLE planes.
Most of your points are true... but

Iran is asking Russia and China to form some sort of all-aspect alliance against Western dominance in world for some time now but to no avail... Russia and China are seeking a role in world leadership while can not act BOLD like what USA does... You can not be a great power unless you act like one... Iran was hit hard by the harshest ever sanctions ever applied to a nation... Russia do some cooperation and stand behind Iran only when its own interests says so... There are many occasions where Russians sold Iran in open day... Everybody in Iran knows it is not wise to put your chips on only EAST bet... Actually, despite all close relations Iran has with Russia, you can still see clearly that most of the cooperation stays on paper and that a majority of the nation don't trust Russia and its policies... Iran asked Russia to resist against American bully and don't approve sanctions... Iranian logic was and is very simple and clear... Iran says, while regimes like Israel have nuclear weapons in hundreds and do attack neighbors from time to time are treated like innocent kids and Iran not having a bomb and not attacked any country in centuries is the EVIL!!! The whole sanctions concept is ridiculous... Iran is sanctioned for human rights (imprisoning reporters while Turkey has the highest rate of reporter imprisonment!!), Iran is sanctioned for not letting girls wear puncky dresses while Saudi Arabia does not allow women to breathe ( Women are not allowed to drive, go out of home, breathe in KSA)

Now, that Russia itself is hit by sanctions they expect Iran to help him with it...

For a country like Iran with many issues to deal with from Lebanon to Yemen, to Africa to South America, it is not safe to rely on friendship of countries like Russia while it is being sold from time to time...

In simple words, Russia is not trusted in Iran due to their actions and not predictions... Russia knew well how much Iran needs the S-300 in 2007 and despite this, they played with their promises not delivering it... Even Obama said couple of months ago that "Russia could deliver s-300 to Iran as it was not under sanctions in first place and Russia did it itself!!"

Regarding the tech issue, everybody knows that Russia is quite advanced in aero-space techs but...

Russia is good with launchers and satellites but this does not make them great at automobiles or commercial airliners... Russian commercial planes are considered second grade in all around world. If you ask a pilot about it, he would say, it is always better to fly an Airbus or Boeing than a Tupolev or Superjet... I know, this superjet bird is very different from previous Russian models but it takes time for the world to regain its lost confidence in Russian planes...

Despite all this mistrust, Iran declared her intention to considering to purchase regional superjet-100s... Iran strived greatly in solid-fueled launchers and its related tech but still can use couple of newer techs from Russians... If today, Russia opens its arms truly Iran would order tens of billions of high tech stuff overnight... but Iranian decision makers are not dumb, they know this will not happen... relying on Russia for strategically important weaponry or sensitive satellite parts is just a mistake that will hurt Iran hard on the day Iran needs it the most...

Iran has decided right and clear decades ago that No NATION will help Iran and Iran needs to stand on its own feet... Today, if Iran still shows interest in buying S-300 or 3-400 or Su-35 it is only because Iran needs more time to catch the trend on these highly advanced techs... I promise you that in a decade or two, Iran not only never order any sensitive techs again...be it from East or West...but will start to create loyal customers for herself...

One thing Iran showed to the world is that, it is true that national interests comes first every time..but it is also crucial to back those who you promised to support in tough days... Iran supported whoever she promised them to do...

so, the problem never been about Iran... It is about Russia and China... They have to know their enemies and friends for the first time... Iran asked to convert Shanghai pact to an all-aspect alliance between Iran, Russia, China and others in order to have a greater effect on world affairs... Iran asked China and Russia to form a common wealth market between Shanghai members and beyond and get rid of USD... Iran asked to form a military alliance to neutralize Western interference... what happened in the end? Russia still plays a backstabber when she needs to act...

There are signs that Putin learned a lesson lately... There are signs that Russia now understands better what Iran used to say for decades... so let's hope this time your leaders get wise and do what we as Eastern powers needed to do a long time ago... I always prefer to be a part of an Eastern monster than a Western one...

Russia has great influence in Eastern Europe, North East Asia, Central Asia and have good access to North Pole.... Iran has great influence in Middle East, South America, Central Asia.... China has great influence in East Asia, Central Asia, Pacific, and Africa.... These three + some other minor nations can form an alliance that can exchange all they need internally... They can form a power that overpower West as a whole hence, great instability in the planet earth...

Let's pray Khamenei, Putin and Jinping make a difference in planet earth

So that wasn't manufactured in Iran? I thought they have reached self-sufficiency in that too.
what is not manufactured in Iran? Superjet or sensitive Satellite systems? you're playing dumb again my friend...

Iran is Germany to the Arab world as a whole but this does n't make it superior to Russia in aero-space hyper-technologies... Iran while being in a great progress still needs time to reach the top....

Even Canada, Europe and USA asked Indian space agency to launch their satellites... Does this make India superior to those customer nations or Europe inferior to the Indian ones?

Iran is now in the middle of its long way to being a top space power... It was very impressive and unique as Iran did not have an open support for its program and space plans.. Iran is making a great stride in space and space telecommunication tech but still needs time to master building, launching enduring tele-communication, spionage, navigation satellites... There are a lot a head of Iran in these fields and a little help from a veteran like Russia or China can help Iran jump couple of steps at once...

Please don't insult your and our intelligence but posting these kind of comments... it is not just right... at least it is not right for a Saudi to post about Iranian high tech advances... if u know what I mean!
 
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Most of your points are true... but

Iran is asking Russia and China to form some sort of all-aspect alliance against Western dominance in world for some time now but to no avail... Russia and China are seeking a role in world leadership while can not act BOLD like what USA does... You can not be a great power unless you act like one... Iran was hit hard by the harshest ever sanctions ever applied to a nation... Russia do some cooperation and stand behind Iran only when its own interests says so... There are many occasions where Russians sold Iran in open day... Everybody in Iran knows it is not wise to put your chips on only EAST bet... Actually, despite all close relations Iran has with Russia, you can still see clearly that most of the cooperation stays on paper and that a majority of the nation don't trust Russia and its policies... Iran asked Russia to resist against American bully and don't approve sanctions... Iranian logic was and is very simple and clear... Iran says, while regimes like Israel have nuclear weapons in hundreds and do attack neighbors from time to time are treated like innocent kids and Iran not having a bomb and not attacked any country in centuries is the EVIL!!! The whole sanctions concept is ridiculous... Iran is sanctioned for human rights (imprisoning reporters while Turkey has the highest rate of reporter imprisonment!!), Iran is sanctioned for not letting girls wear puncky dresses while Saudi Arabia does not allow women to breathe ( Women are not allowed to drive, go out of home, breathe in KSA)

Now, that Russia itself is hit by sanctions they expect Iran to help him with it...

For a country like Iran with many issues to deal with from Lebanon to Yemen, to Africa to South America, it is not safe to rely on friendship of countries like Russia while it is being sold from time to time...

In simple words, Russia is not trusted in Iran due to their actions and not predictions... Russia knew well how much Iran needs the S-300 in 2007 and despite this, they played with their promises not delivering it... Even Obama said couple of months ago that "Russia could deliver s-300 to Iran as it was not under sanctions in first place and Russia did it itself!!"

Regarding the tech issue, everybody knows that Russia is quite advanced in aero-space techs but...

Russia is good with launchers and satellites but this does not make them great at automobiles or commercial airliners... Russian commercial planes are considered second grade in all around world. If you ask a pilot about it, he would say, it is always better to fly an Airbus or Boeing than a Tupolev or Superjet... I know, this superjet bird is very different from previous Russian models but it takes time for the world to regain its lost confidence in Russian planes...

Despite all this mistrust, Iran declared her intention to considering to purchase regional superjet-100s... Iran strived greatly in solid-fueled launchers and its related tech but still can use couple of newer techs from Russians... If today, Russia opens its arms truly Iran would order tens of billions of high tech stuff overnight... but Iranian decision makers are not dumb, they know this will not happen... relying on Russia for strategically important weaponry or sensitive satellite parts is just a mistake that will hurt Iran hard on the day Iran needs it the most...

Iran has decided right and clear decades ago that No NATION will help Iran and Iran needs to stand on its own feet... Today, if Iran still shows interest in buying S-300 or 3-400 or Su-35 it is only because Iran needs more time to catch the trend on these highly advanced techs... I promise you that in a decade or two, Iran not only never order any sensitive techs again...be it from East or West...but will start to create loyal customers for herself...

One thing Iran showed to the world is that, it is true that national interests comes first every time..but it is also crucial to back those who you promised to support in tough days... Iran supported whoever she promised them to do...

so, the problem never been about Iran... It is about Russia and China... They have to know their enemies and friends for the first time... Iran asked to convert Shanghai pact to an all-aspect alliance between Iran, Russia, China and others in order to have a greater effect on world affairs... Iran asked China and Russia to form a common wealth market between Shanghai members and beyond and get rid of USD... Iran asked to form a military alliance to neutralize Western interference... what happened in the end? Russia still plays a backstabber when she needs to act...

There are signs that Putin learned a lesson lately... There are signs that Russia now understands better what Iran used to say for decades... so let's hope this time your leaders get wise and do what we as Eastern powers needed to do a long time ago... I always prefer to be a part of an Eastern monster than a Western one...

Russia has great influence in Eastern Europe, North East Asia, Central Asia and have good access to North Pole.... Iran has great influence in Middle East, South America, Central Asia.... China has great influence in East Asia, Central Asia, Pacific, and Africa.... These three + some other minor nations can form an alliance that can exchange all they need internally... They can form a power that overpower West as a whole hence, great instability in the planet earth...

Let's pray Khamenei, Putin and Jinping make a difference in planet earth


what is not manufactured in Iran? Superjet or sensitive Satellite systems? you're playing dumb again my friend...

Iran is Germany to the Arab world as a whole but this does n't make it superior to Russia in aero-space hyper-technologies... Iran while being in a great progress still needs time to reach the top....

Even Canada, Europe and USA asked Indian space agency to launch their satellites... Does this make India superior to those customer nations or Europe inferior to the Indian ones?

Iran is now in the middle of its long way to being a top space power... It was very impressive and unique as Iran did not have an open support for its program and space plans.. Iran is making a great stride in space and space telecommunication tech but still needs time to master building, launching enduring tele-communication, spionage, navigation satellites... There are a lot a head of Iran in these fields and a little help from a veteran like Russia or China can help Iran jump couple of steps at once...

Please don't insult your and our intelligence but posting these kind of comments... it is not just right... at least it is not right for a Saudi to post about Iranian high tech advances... if u know what I mean!

Jesus christ......Are you dreaming bro?o_O I can see you are still dreaming of a 'united anti western block'.lool

Seems you iranians dont understand how big powers play geo politcs.lool Keep thinkng Iran Iran is superman who can take on the West/U.S. You think Russia and China are fools by not chanting empty radical rhetorics day and night like the Mullahs?? Lol
Iran’s supreme leader: No talks with ‘Great Satan,’ Israel won’t exist in 25 years | New York Post
Chilling "Death to England" graffiti at British Embassy in Tehran still visible at reopening ceremony - Mirror Online

Only immature powers can be so childish as to invade a country's sovereign embassy and ransack it. not even N.Korea does that.:disagree:

The problem is not with Russia or China unlike what tou said, problem is with Iran's delusional leaders who dont seem to understand how big power politics works. :pop: They need to chill and stop makng their people suffer under sanctions for nothing just because they want to show they can challenge the west. :drag:
 
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Jesus christ......Are you dreaming bro?o_O I can see you are still dreaming of a 'united anti western block'.lool

Seems you iranians dont understand how big powers play geo politcs.lool Keep thinkng Iran Iran is superman who can take on the West/U.S. You think Russia and China are fools by not chanting empty radical rhetorics day and night like the Mullahs?? Lol
Iran’s supreme leader: No talks with ‘Great Satan,’ Israel won’t exist in 25 years | New York Post
Chilling "Death to England" graffiti at British Embassy in Tehran still visible at reopening ceremony - Mirror Online

Only immature powers can be so childish as to invade a country's sovereign embassy and ransack it. not even N.Korea does that.:disagree:

The problem is not with Russia or China unlike what tou said, problem is with Iran's delusional leaders who dont seem to understand how big power politics works. :pop: They need to chill and stop makng their people suffer under sanctions for nothing just because they want to show they can challenge the west. :drag:
ok, you seem to be allll right... does n't worth a reply... seems u did n't read my post correctly...
but just for other readers to know... how come, it is ok when people or parties go print anti-iran...anti-islam or even anti-God ads on buses in USA... they are free to ask to bomb Iran day and night in TVs even by presidential candidates (who I bet can not locate USA or Iran on the map if you ask them to!!)... but when a group of students... a party in Iran goes chant death to America or britain (although this Down with America that is said in Persian, does not mean what West tries to make it mean... It means, we condemn X or Z... It means their regime needs to be pulled DOWN...

Unlike many puppets, many Iranian ordinary people can not bare a shithoole under the name of embassy of UK do whatever kind of espionage and supporting anti-Iranian terrorists they want... in Iran if an embassy is proved to do these anti-Iranian shhhit... Iranians will wrap their curtain down... others are stupid to wait and watch their enemies do back-stab them in their own home...

Leader of Iran never said, he will destroy Israel in 25 years... you easy to fool people are so much caught by your media that you don't bother checking if it is true... Mr. Khameni said " Israelis are saying with the nuclear deal they will be unconcerned for 25 years, now I,m saying by God's help, you won't be there to worry about it in 25 years (as your regime will go down by itself in 25 years or less)

It is like what Ahmadi nejad said as : "Israeli regime must be gone and people should decide their fate there by free election by its native people Palestinians.... Israel must get off the map is your translation of what he meant as the israeli regime is not a legal entity and they are invaders and need to leave the land for the native owners....

If you go through American, Israeli leadership and politician statements you see clearly that they are a Threat to humanity by threatening to bomb this and that... they even threaten to use nukes if necessary!! This we must take seriously as USA is the first and only country to use NUKES on innocent people... they are evil and must be taken care of by other powers such as IRan, Russia and China... if ever they believe in themselves and their power of balance against evil Zionists...

and geo-politics my ashhhh.... now the world is seeing the other side of the coin baby... like it or not... China is owning a big part of the world... Russia is owning another big part... Iran is owning the most important part of the world... you keep dreaming about your Western geo-political importance!!!!!!!!


btw, come to the bed... and close the window..it is chilling... :agree:
 
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Well, pal, with all the respect, remember one thing - it's all about the markets..period! You can invest in R'n'D only having access to some relatevlyt big markets; i.e to make civil aviations you need to guaranty market of aprox. 1bln. of people; same goes to computers' and any other industry.
Talking about non trusting anybody... well, always do remember that those you "don't trust" can have the same "feelings" about you, so ...
The outcome - the best thing : humbleness, cold mind, flexibility, reationality, understanding your own goals and reasons, less emotions ...
Good day
 
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BTW, what's wrong with Russian automotive? Here's just a few examples:
And most sweet "automotive" :))
 
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PIA should also switch to Superjet 100

Far cheaper than Airbus
 
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even if the choice is between airbus A-318 and Sukhoi SuperJet-100 ?
I don't know what it is.. (I know actually what it is!!) but somehow I don't trust Russian aviation... They probably are very up to date today but when I get the chance to use a 2015 Russian bird, it would be 2025 and by then Airbus possibily introduced A-980 with an speed of 5mach!!

This is the case for Iranian cars for many but I don't feel the same... I had the chance to examine a Samand Dena many times lately... It looks something to trust... so it is all about personal experience...
 
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Reformers are master of making this kind of deals ....

And what did the osoolgarayan retards do ? Turning our once 1$ -7 toman currency into Somalian standards ? What happened to the 700$billion money from oil incomes under retarded conservatives ? hapooli kardan, na ?

Most iranian aviation accidents happened under conservative retards who have no clue about modern safety standards. Also i am willing to bet that this ''deal'' is a fake one put forward by some conservative retard to keep the Russians happy.

Reformists will go with modern top technology like Boeing&Airbus while the conservative wil ride with donkeys the long distances. :lol:
 
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Better alive than rich.

Superjet does not suffer from the problems that older jets did. Boeing 737 has the maximum number of crashes and superjet has large amount of western design components.
 
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