Iran shows film of captured US drone

[gambit]

Any official comments on the video so far? Am sure Skunkworks people should be able to tell straight away if this is the real deal or not.

They are not going to comment. I know some 'stuff' about some sub-systems and I have never crossed the line here.

 

[gambit]

If GPS positions are directly fed to the aircraft. The Iranians said they shot it down. Recently an Indian Helicopter landed in Pakistan inspite of having a handheld GPS. These things happen in war.

GPS signals are 'shotgunned' meaning they are broadcasted from orbit with no one in particular. The burden of exploitation is upon the end user. The GPS system take no responsibilities for stupidity and/or incompetence.

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Turns out, western tech isn't as advanced as it is rumored to be. Now what do those western fan boys say about America?.... Yeah !! America is years ahead of her adversaries ....... I guess Iranians had help from Martians then.

Sure as the sky is blue our 'stuff' is a lot more advanced than whatever can come out of the ME.

 

[longbrained]

Maybe he meant 26 feet.

No, it is actually 26 meters. Our ignorant readers here, do not understand anything about optics. As the wings sweep back they go farther away from the camera lens and the guy in picture. So they look smaller and smaller. The picture is 2D and the real thing is 3D.

 

[JonAsad]

Yeah , and one thing more the martians ordered the US drone to land inside Iran ... Happy now ?
Crash landing doesn't result in a intact drone ... Why would it caught fire ? It was hacked and made to land inside Iran ...
and yes it does look real ... Whether you believe it for not

from where you getting this info?-
You know the difference between a landing and a crash landing?-

 

[gambit]

This where your mistaken. When the drone is in the air it is controlled via a satellite link from a remote operating station. But during start and landing the drone is piloted via line-of-sight radio by an operator near the start or landing field. This is necessary because the remote satellite link has a delay of several hundred milliseconds which is just too much latency to correct wind sheer and other problems during takeoff and landing. No drone ever takes off and lands on remote.

Everything is correct. Operators in Nevada have 'hands-off' status during take-offs and landings.

 

[Oldman1]

Explains the whole thing ...

Lets keep it at that.

 

[500]

No, it is actually 26 meters. Our ignorant readers here, do not understand anything about optics. As the wings sweep back they go farther away from the camera lens and the guy in picture. So they look smaller and smaller. The picture is 2D and the real thing is 3D.

No, its nowhere close to 26 m, not even half of it. Swept wings from front look dont change anything. You missed optics lessons.

 

[Oldman1]

from where you getting this info?-
You know the difference between a landing and a crash landing?-

If they really hijacked it then they would have made it land to the nearest airstrip. Not crash it into the ground and have to repaint and glue it back on.

 

[longbrained]

Looks like the Brigadier General takes his info from wiki aswell-

JonAsad,

Unfortunately you and your American friends are always dismissive of truth. That is your hallmark. You see when Moses (PBUH) went to Pharaoh and invited him to the truth, he asked for confirmation and Moses (PBUH) showed him his famous stick and turned it into a python. Pharaoh, instead of accepting the truth termed this miracle as sorcery. It is the same case here with you and people like you. You are shameless and incapable of accepting truth. Even if imagery and video as well as numerous officials approve it. Even if they allow you to touch that drone still you will not be able to accept it. You know why? Because God says, he has put a veil on your eyes and ears and you can not see the truth. That is the reason.

 

[gambit]

Thats a mystery which will be solved. The Iranians do have a very good Russian ECM jammer, which can jam the US Operators Signal, but anybody who has landed in a Plane knows the Pilot takes immediate action to correct for wind shear etc. A satellite signal even several milli second delays can have a catastrophic effect during landing or take off but will probably have no effect during flight. For your information all UAV's are landed manually. At the best you can affect a crash landing of the drone but never a perfect landing without direct control. Miracles of landing in wrong airfields have taken place many times as recently a Helicopter of the Indian Army landed on a PA helo pad inspite of having a GPS. If you read a little bit about Military History a Fighter Jet crashlanded intact 200 miles away after his pilot ejected. You may wish to google that.

It is possible that the drone can literally land itself but the conditions would have to be statistically so ideal that we might as well call it 'perfect'. However, for an RTB programming in the event of a loss of contact/control, the drone would orbit the 'friendly' airfield and wait for reestablishment of control, which we assume at this time would be certain due to line-of-sight condition. Bottom line is that the drone -- THIS drone -- can land itself but it would be unwise to let it do so without the human operator's inputs.

 

[Secur]

from where you getting this info?-
You know the difference between a landing and a crash landing?-

From what we have discussed so far ... It appears that you are in complete denial mode ...
Just enlighten me , would a crash landing result in such a intact drone shown in the video ?
and after that ask yourself , did the Americans order the drone to land in Iran if you dont want to believe that it crash landed ?
Or somehow the Iranians hacked it and brought it down ...

 

[Roybot]

No, it is actually 26 meters. Our ignorant readers here, do not understand anything about optics. As the wings sweep back they go farther away from the camera lens and the guy in picture. So they look smaller and smaller. The picture is 2D and the real thing is 3D.

Swept wing doesnt affect Wingspan. Wingspan is straight line, tip to tip.

 

[A1Kaid]

Actual video of the presentation.

 

[longbrained]

If they really hijacked it then they would have made it land to the nearest airstrip. Not crash it into the ground and have to repaint and glue it back on.

You are such a moron. It has landed just 200 kilometers from border, which is safe enough distance from Americans. It has not crashed, since an air crash wreck does not look scratchless. It is not glued either. The wings are designed to come off in original design it seems for ease of transportation of the drone. Iranians seem also to have disassembled it too. The color is desert camo color and is in perfect harmony with mission it was carrying on with in Iranian desert.

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Swept wing doesnt affect Wingspan. Wingspan is straight line, tip to tip.

Your picture shows the aircraft from below not from front. Try it from the front, now. As I said you are ignorant about optics.

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It is possible that the drone can literally land itself but the conditions would have to be statistically so ideal that we might as well call it 'perfect'. However, for an RTB programming in the event of a loss of contact/control, the drone would orbit the 'friendly' airfield and wait for reestablishment of control, which we assume at this time would be certain due to line-of-sight condition. Bottom line is that the drone -- THIS drone -- can land itself but it would be unwise to let it do so without the human operator's inputs.

oh, gambit, you are back again. Did not read your comment since it is a waste of time. But now you have proven to by lying specially remembering the discussion we had in previous thread. http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/144802-us-stealth-uav-rq-170-downed-iran-49.html

 

[Birbal]

No, its nowhere close to 26 m, not even half of it. Swept wings from front look dont change anything. You missed optics lessons.

Swept wing doesnt affect Wingspan. Wingspan is straight line, tip to tip.

It's not the wingspan that changes because of the swept wing, but the perceived size due to optics. The guy is standing a lot closer to the camera than the wingtips. If the wingtips are three times as far from the camera as the guy, then they will look one third their actual size relative to the guy in 2D. This is simple projective geometry.