Iran recruits Pakistani Shi'ites for combat in Syria

[Madali]

I merely replied to this message:

Iran recruits Pakistani Shi'ites for combat in Syria

Instead addressing my arguments u attack the messenger.

Your replies are off topic and only muddy the discussion. The Syrian government's defense against insurgency is not a Shia ideological template. To bring that into the discussion only moves the topic away and makes it difficult to debate. But that has always been your technique.

A group like Boko Haram or ISIS is motivated by a certain Islamic ideology. We need to first understand if their action is dangerous and unacceptable, then see if there is any familiar concepts in their ideology. (and it's not something as general as being a "Sunni" by the way, there are millions of Indonesia sunnis who are not blowing themselves up)

The government of Syria is has not been formed out of a specific religious ideology. If we find their system problematic, then I think you should target their socialist Baath ideology, which has very little to do with Islam.

 

[Styx]

Its not logical to judge a country based on a cartoon like that .

I know, I'm actually very pro Iran and anti wahhabi arabia but stoning to death is just disgusting.

 

[kaikaus]

Your attempt at turning my comment into a sectarian one is poor at best, NOWHERE DID I BLAME SHIA OR SUNNI FOR ANYTHING. By the way, Shia militias ARE known to attack Sunni groups in Pakistan, it's at a smaller rate, but it exists. Thankfully, Pakistanis are starting to reject KSA's and Iran's sectarianism.

My problem is not with Shia and Sunni, my problem is with KSA and Iran, whom use innocent civilians (regardless of being Sunni or Shia) and send them to their deaths, in some false effort to gain glory through killing and death. Shia and Sunni both are a victim of KSA's and Iran's constant bickering.

Iran should stop trying to recruit Pakistani Shia; if they're so interested in recruiting people, they should recruit Iranians and no one else. The SAME goes towards KSA.

yeah same goes towarsd saudia.but i never found a thread on that issue -_-

Nothing new . They are supporting PKK in Turkey, YPJ in Iraq.
They have financed dozens of Shite milltant groups in Pakistan while GCC funding their counterparts.

Rouhani is landing Islamabad in coming days, we should put this matter in-front of him and seek explanation.



You dont know shit about this conflict. Its more to do with your thousands year old rift with Arabs than it has to do with Pakistan.

yes true that sunni worship places were bombed more frequently and swiftly than those of shias.good going
i live in pakistan.i see more sunni places being bombed than those of shias.hazara shia tribe.they just being dramatic by putting their dead on the streets,like in all jokes

Shias are the bone of contention and the main reason of unrest in Middle East and in major muslim countries.

yeah only shias are openly opposing the west.iran threw american stooges out of the door,hezbollah killed 180 american soldiers back in the 80s,then they never came back.
hez kicked israel in the butt.
did any non shia do such stuff?

No you guys are Angles

unlike you shias threw us out of the govt in 79,killed israel in 06 and are still going strong
have non shias opposed the us and israel the way shias do?

 

[500]

Your replies are off topic and only muddy the discussion. The Syrian government's defense against insurgency is not a Shia ideological template. To bring that into the discussion only moves the topic away and makes it difficult to debate. But that has always been your technique.

A group like Boko Haram or ISIS is motivated by a certain Islamic ideology. We need to first understand if their action is dangerous and unacceptable, then see if there is any familiar concepts in their ideology. (and it's not something as general as being a "Sunni" by the way, there are millions of Indonesia sunnis who are not blowing themselves up)

The government of Syria is has not been formed out of a specific religious ideology. If we find their system problematic, then I think you should target their socialist Baath ideology, which has very little to do with Islam.

Assad himself is recognized as Shiite by Iranian regime.

Assad gets full support from Iranian Shiite regime:
1) Financial.
2) Weapons.
3) Mercenaries aka volunteers (who happen be all Shiites, for some unknown reason).
4) Resources.
5) Propaganda.

What other reason except religion has Iran to support some failed corrupt dictator 1000 miles away?

 

[ghilzai]

someone needs to teach iran a serious lesson, there getting too big for there boots.

You planning to make an example out of them if so how and with whose army?.

 

[kaikaus]

Since you said "shias killed by fellow Pakistanis" , lemme clear this sir I have met Iranians and they are somehow made to believe that in Pakistan, shias are killed for no reason, this is absolute BS. Our founder was a shia, most of our presidents/prime ministers/generals were shias (zardari, ZA Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, Yahya Khan), we have the 2nd highest number of shias in the world in Pak after Iran.
Yes in the previous years, we suffered as a nation, it included both shias and sunnis, we sacrificed 50,000 lives of innocent people and more than 5000 soldiers with over 10,000 injured. But we overcame it, today terror attacks have fallen by more than 90%, Pakistanis are united in this war, please don't create divisions.
Pakistan has banned terror organizations receiving funds from Saudis and Iranians, we have arrested those criminals who incite sectarianism, so this isn't new for us. Pakistan isn't Syria or Iraq or any Arab country for that matter, please don't try to use such sentences as if Pakistanis deliberately killed fellow shia citizens, it was a war on terror in which sunnis / shias were killed alike, Pakistan has overcome it, its economy is rising, it has freedom of speech and expression, it has 4-5 24/7 chrisitian religious channels, it has numerous Shia religious channels, it is heading towards becoming a liberal country with the will of God inshAllah !!!

died alike?when was the last time a sunni tribe put their dead on the road the way hazara shias do?
i grew up being told that i am a shia fagot,i am filth.that's what i was told at my school.i was alienated.
there were only 2 sunnis in ym class who were not like
-_- my school made me feel like a freak.before zarbe azab the things were going i was willing to change my name to a mroe sunni name.so that i won't be killed.

 

[ghilzai]

These guys would be from Parachinar in the tribal areas I guess

Idiots of the highest order

Anyone returning from Syria be it Wahabi or Shia needs to be put down

Must be my cousins if so hold your head high boys for you are a beacon of freedom and no friend of an Arab and proud Pakistanis first.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Iran recruits Pakistani Shi'ites for combat in Syria

Ah. More "proof" that Islam is a religion of peace.

 

[ghilzai]

Shias Burned the whole market in Karachi.2009
Shias attacked a Masjid and martyred ppl performing prayers in Raja Bazar Rawalpindi.2013
Shias of Hizbul-Shitan have been beheading innocent ppl in syria and Iraq.

[QUOTE="Shias are the main victims of terrorism in region from Pakistan to Bahrain , Egypt , Syria and even Iraq ..

Shias are the bone of contention and the main reason of unrest in Middle East and in major muslim countries.[/QUOTE]

Wow look your Arab masters have taught you propaganda and skills to only portray one of side of the story.

Well my Arab wanna be you probably have an Arab name too just shows your inferiority complex.

 

[Serpentine]

Assad himself is recognized as Shiite by Iranian regime.

Assad gets full support from Iranian Shiite regime:
1) Financial.
2) Weapons.
3) Mercenaries aka volunteers (who happen be all Shiites, for some unknown reason).
4) Resources.
5) Propaganda.

What other reason except religion has Iran to support some failed corrupt dictator 1000 miles away?

If you think Iran is in Syria because Assad is an Alawite, it really shows the shallowness of your understanding of the whole situation, such a pity.

 

[Barmin]

I know, I'm actually very pro Iran and anti wahhabi arabia but stoning to death is just disgusting.

It is proganda. Iranian women are living much better than most of the countries in the f-cking world.

Wow is this pic for real, they dug the grave ? Whose grave is it ?

'Hujr ibn Uday (ra)'

Search the pictures on Google


On 2 May 2013, foreign-backed extremists (allegedly from the Wahhabi movement) attacked the mausoleum andexhumed his remains.[5] His body was taken to an unknown location by the rebels.[6] According to a report published in the NY Times, a widely distributed Facebook photo of the desecration of the pilgrimage site gives credit for the exhumation to a man named Abu Anas al-Wazir, or Abu al-Baraa, a leader of a military group called the Islam Brigade of the Free Army.[1]

Also in Iraq ISIS beetles have destroyed some of shrines of prophets (pbut) who are mentioned in Quran and have removed their bodies.

 

[kaikaus]

You were asking if Shias practices things like beheading, suicide bomb, burning people alive, etc... and I'm showing you the terrorist state of Iran has much more brutal, agonizing and backward practices like stoning than all those terrorist organazations you mentioned including ISIS.

Ah. More "proof" that Islam is a religion of peace.

Ah. More "proof" that Islam is a religion of peace.

-_- US showed a lot of peace in vietnam with napalm
show a lot of peace all the time

 

[HAIDER]

what's wrong with you people, some retards are giving so much importance to facebook page. Nobody knows who own the page . And some arabs news paper giving so much coverage, who never condemn the act of terrorism in Pakistan. Who's countries banks are full of Pakistani politicians corruption money. Kick out hundreds of Pakistani shia, who been living peacefully for decades. And some retard wanna be arab is calling Pakistani shia maniacs...what a shame...

 

[like_a_boss]

You were asking if Shias practices things like beheading, suicide bomb, burning people alive, etc... and I'm showing you the terrorist state of Iran has much more brutal, agonizing and backward practices like stoning than all those terrorist organazations you mentioned including ISIS.

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[S@@di]

Preparing shia militant to start civil war in pakistan