Iran operating drones in Balochistan since March

[YeBeWarned]

at least now they will think 10 times before sending another drone .. its good that tension is defused

 

[BATMAN]

I think message is delivered but now its time for diplmacy, strong and straigbt forward ... we need to raise issue of KY, Ozair Balooch and border violation ...

And along with this diplomacy we should also draw the red lines ...

We dont want negative relationship with Iran should not be taken as our weakness ...

Public want to see tangible actions, diplomacy is illusion.
Neither we need to draw any new red lines, which are defined and well understood by nations of world.

 

[The Accountant]

Public want to see tangible actions, diplomacy is illusion.
Neither we need to draw any new red lines, which are defined and well understood by nations of world.

Yes but what we did when we captured Ozair Baloch with Iranian passport ? We should have taken very harsh diplomatic actions ... we could even go for closing irani ambassy for a week or so but we did nothing ... remember taking down drone is one of the extreme actions taken by forces but our gov has done nothing on diplomatic front to counter these issues ...

If we would have taken strong diplomatic instance at the first place iran would not have dare to violate international boundry ...

For me iran was testing our nerves and got the answere but my point is why we let things come to such a level ...

 

[Hyperion]

These Iranians need to taught a lesson. Every other fucker in the region, be it Iran / UAE / Saudia is trampling on our soveregnity. Why has the GoP / PAF / Army been mum on all this shit?

 

[Serpentine]

May I remind you that it was Pakistan that helped Iran in 2010 arrest a terrorist leader, Abdolmalek Rigi, an Iranian who headed the Jundullah terror group in southern Iran

Please stop taking credit for something you haven't done. From 0 to 100, all intelligence and operational activities that led to arrest of Rigi was done by Iran in a sophisticated operation. It was also denied by Iran officially that Pakistan helped in arrest of Rigi.

About drone issue, I have shared my opinion before. First, some people should stop their overjoy for downing of a drone that moves at like 180 km/h.

Second, Iran maintains huge drone fleet near Pakistani border for one single purpose: monitor and intercept any drug smuggling/terror activity that might come from other side of border. We have had enough of it already.

In situations like this, accidents tend to happen, drones may cross the border by mistake and we now know it was only 4 km into Pakistani airspace, which takes only few seconds to pass.

Some people, unsurprisingly mostly those Saudi loving Pakistanis who are more Arab than Saudis themselves, trying to link this incident with a global Indian/American/Afghan/Iranian/Martian/RAW conspiracy against Pakistan pursue only their own lame agenda, nothing more.

 

[DJ_Viper]

These Iranians need to taught a lesson. Every other fucker in the region, be it Iran / UAE / Saudia is trampling on our soveregnity. Why has the GoP / PAF / Army been mum on all this shit?

I think the drone incursion was a clear message to the Pakistani military not to get involved against Iran. I'd go AFA saying that the recon missions have been happening to identify the targets they can take out from within Iran (border shelling, small missile firing, etc). The Pakistani government and the military don't think they should (and can) open up another front.

The budget, the resources and the machines haven't changed even when Iran got added to the threat mix. So they are choosing to ignore it. I've said it many times for years, consider Iran an extension of India. May not be a direct enemy, but it won't be peaceful with them either, and can turn into a conflict too.

 

[tarrar]

Iran is a country that only finances trouble & terrorism against the sunni countries.

 

[Canuck786]

The door is open for back door negotiations, and why not?!!! We handed over Yadhav to you.

Are you using false flags? Anybody with little wisdom would know your statement about Yadhav not be a fact. Only Indians are doing that propaganda because they want to kill him themselves. He was in Pakistan when he got caught by his own admission twice on camera.

 

[DjSnake]

Iran is a paper tiger, they won't and can't win a conventional war so they resort to proxy warfare. They're just testing waters at the moment with drones. I don't understand their logic, if they get on bad side of Pakistan, its game over for these farsis. Iran has lot of powerful enemies who will not waste a second to destroy them if opportunity arises.

 

[SOHEIL]

Guys ... You are stronk !

 

[HAIDER]

Pakistan has strong surveillance system. If Iran is running this drone maneuvering since March then Govt aware of that. But they been awarded certain patch of border for surveillance and share of information. Must be solid reason by Govt Pakistan ,so next time if any group attack inside Iranian border, then Iranian govt won't be able to blame Pakistan. Pakistan seem agreed joint surveillance and sharing border information. But, all vehicles should be marked with Iranian flag and unmarked one will be shot down by PAF.
@Oscar

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wait now i forgot what was the topic hahaha see thats how desi one can get

you forget topic was nehari ..

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

A JF-17 fighter jet of Pakistan Air Force, reportedly equipped with a third-generation, short-range air-to-air PL-5EII missile, shot down an Iranian spy drone this week. The drone was operating illegally inside Pakistani airspace. This was not the first Iranian drone secretly flying missions inside Pakistan. In a revelation that would surprise Pakistan’s political and strategic communities, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp, or IRGC, which likely owns this drone, has been flying missions over Balochistan since March this year. Iranian drones have been secretly operating in Balochistan for three months now. And despite repeated Pakistani requests for coordination on the Pakistan-Iran border, the Iranian authorities did not inform Pakistan they intend to fly surveillance drones at the international border, let alone inside Pakistani territory.

Pakistan’s decision to shoot down the spy plane came as a shock to IRGC. Roughly a few hours apart, another Iranian drone was shot down in Syria. This must have been noticed at the highest levels in Iran, though Tehran kept silent on both incidents. It is a long stretch from Syria to Pakistan, but this is what the IRGC does, thriving on operations outside Iran in several neighboring countries across the region.

The Iranian decision to operate spy drones inside Pakistan was taken much before the April 26 attack inside Iran that killed ten border guards, which Tehran blamed on Pakistan. No evidence yet has been shared to suggest the attack, at Mirjaveh town, was mounted from Pakistani territory. But there is ample evidence the attackers, from the terrorist Jaish al Adl group, are likely Iranian dissidents who have been active in Sistan Province for years because of long periods of turmoil in Iranian politics. On June 14, Iranian militants mounted a gun battle with security forces in residential areas of Chabahar. The news was largely downplayed in the Iranian media, with smaller news outlets covering it. Iran did not blame any outside power for this attack.

Despite several attempts, Iran and Pakistan have failed to hold a flag staff meeting at the border. On May 27, after Iranian shelling killed a Pakistani citizen, Pakistan asked for the meeting on May 28, then 29, and then several times after that. The Iranian authorities delayed responding to the requests. Finally, they requested for a meeting in Tehran instead of flag meeting at the border. Islamabad did not object and accepted the Iranian demand. Now the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Islamabad is coordinating with its Iranian counterpart. Pakistan border and security officials in Balochistan are likely to travel to Tehran for the meeting once Tehran gives the green signal.

It is not clear yet how the Iranian authorities will justify using spy drones inside Pakistan, or if they will accept responsibility for violating Pakistani sovereignty. It is possible that Iranian government and border authorities did not intentionally conceal the information on drone use from Pakistan. It is likely they did not know in the first place. The IRGC may not have shared all information regarding its operations in Pakistan with other departments of the Iranian government that deal with Islamabad. The IRGC is a force that operates outside the control of Iran Armed Forces, which were sidelined after 1979. This new force was created to protect the religious government in Tehran and promote its interests and ideology. The Iranian military was apparently not fully trusted to do so. Interestingly, Pakistan enjoyed close and robust ties with Iran’s professional military before it was sidelined. The IRGC reports directly to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, bypassing both President Hassan Rouhani and the Iran Army.

The list of Iranian actions detrimental to Pakistani interests is expanding fast, and is eroding the long history of close cooperation.

Apart from blaming Pakistan on multiple occasions for its internal political problems in the east and the south, Tehran recently tried to interfere in Pakistan foreign policy decisions, particularly in Islamabad’s long-standing policy of maintaining close diplomatic and military ties to Arab countries since Independence. Pakistani officials were particularly incensed at Iranian attempts to manipulate Pakistani public opinion on the question of Islamic Military Alliance to Fight Terrorism (IMAFT). Tehran is militarily involved in several countries in the Middle East but wants Pakistan to isolate itself in the region. There is also evidence of Iranian links to a campaign of defamation against former Pakistan army chief Gen. Raheel Sharif, who oversaw the busting of India’s anti-Pakistan terror network operating from Iran. The idea that Tehran can dictate policy to Islamabad surprised many in Pakistan, and was a departure from the policy of mutual respect and non-interference in each other’s affairs that both countries pursued after the coup in Iran in 1979.

Apart from the use of spy drones in Pakistan, Iran took a major step when it allowed India to run an anti-Pakistan intelligence operation from Chabahar, the port city where India is making large investments to lessen Afghanistan’s reliance on Pakistani ports. The Iranian city was used by Indian intelligence officers to plot sectarian attacks in Pakistan on Pakistani Shia Muslim citizens, according to the second confessional statement by Indian naval commander Kulbhushan Jhadav. Pakistan also arrested two gangsters who were used for espionage on coastal military installations in Pakistan. They carried Iranian passports.

Another key reason for recent Iran-Pakistan tensions are the steps Islamabad has taken to stop Iran from recruiting Pakistanis to fight in Syria. The IRGC is facing shortages in fighters as young Iranians refuse to join it in its foreign adventures. The supply of fighters from Pakistan was essential but has now become difficult.

In the interest of maintaining cordial relations with Tehran, Islamabad refrained from making public the results of the Jhadav probe. The information that Islamabad did not make public includes details on Pakistani demands for Iran to arrest accomplices of Jhadav in Iran, prevent their escape to India, and to give Pakistani investigators access to share the results of Iranian investigations with them.

Pakistani government circles are disturbed at reports that elements from terrorist organizations like BLA and BLF have recently found sanctuaries in Iran. Early this year, there were reports that BLF terror commander Dr. Allah Nazar moved to a sanctuary in southern Iran, close to Chabahar. For Pakistan, years of working with Kabul to end these sanctuaries in Afghanistan only to see them move to Iran is a matter of concern.

Iran’s IRGC is a paranoid ideological force. It has suspicions that Pakistan’s Balochistan province is being used by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates for operations inside Iran. This is a wild theory backed by no evidence. Pakistan did not support anti-Iran efforts during the Iran-Iraq war in 1980s, when all of Islamabad’s allies were on one side. There is no reason for Pakistan to do so now. Additionally, UAE and Gulf states are among Iran’s top trading partners and many Iranians live in the Gulf. Tehran can raise these suspicions directly with KSA and UAE and resolve them through diplomatic engagement.

Iran Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, a soft-spoken university professor who now runs Tehran foreign policy, has tried to resolve these issues. But it is apparent that, despite the rise in his influence after the Iran nuclear deal, he is finding it difficult to wrest control of Iran’s Pakistan policy from the hardline IRGC. This week, Zarif’s ministry, and President Rouhani’s government, struggled with the domestic dispute over who takes the credit for Iran’s missile attacks into Syria. After initially taking credit, Rouhani government had to give in to IRGC, whose media outlets insisted the credit belongs to the religious force.

Despite the current tensions, relations between Islamabad and Tehran have seen better days post-1979. Pakistan helped Iran in 2010 arrest a terrorist leader, Abdolmalek Rigi, an Iranian who headed the Jundullah terror group in southern Iran. It is believed this group was created in Afghanistan after 2001. During Iran’s war with Iraq, Pakistan broke away from almost all its allies who supported Baghdad in the war. Pakistan allowed Iran full use of Karachi port for all its civilian and military needs when Iranian ports were exposed during the war. Iran, under the Pahlavi dynasty, was the first country to establish diplomatic ties with Pakistan after Independence in 1947. Islamabad reciprocated this by becoming the first country to recognize the religious government in Tehran after 1979.

The shooting down of the Iranian drone is a major development. Pakistan wants good relations with Iran because its plate is already full dealing with Afghanistan unrest, Kashmir, and India. The drone episode renews the debate in Pakistan on how to deal with Iran’s expanding footprint in the region.



UPDATE: Pakistan detected secret Iranian use of spy drones in Balochistan in March 2017. Islamabad shot down a drone in June. But in August 2015, a model Shahed 129, considered Iran’s most sophisticated Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV), crashed close to the border with Pakistan. Pictures of the crashed drone were posted on social media, with some claiming it crashed inside Pakistan. Iran did not officially comment on the crash but posts appeared later on online defense forums denying the drone crashed in Pakistan. These posts suggested the drone crashed inside Iran and that it was likely being used to monitor the border with Pakistan [see here, here and here]. Neither Iran nor Pakistan commented on this report. The pictures from the crash site appear real, and regardless of the location of the crash, they indicate Iran tested the use of drones on the border with Pakistan in 2015, and possibly deployed advanced drones to the border with Pakistan well before the June 19 incident in Balochistan.

http://www.trackpersia.com/iran-operating-drones-balochistan-since-march/

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@Arabi @PaklovesTurkiye @HAKIKAT

Iran must be hit hard, so their fake ego comes to the level below the ground!
While Iranian serpents in Pakistan are already underground.

Truth is Iran has been using drone to support terror activities in Pakistan, even from earlier times.

Pakistanis have made Iran done this non sense...Has Iran ever dared to fly drone inside Turkiye's territory ? They didn't. U know why? Because Turks will put big stick right up to arse of these Iranians...

Ye sar pe charr k naach rahen hain....Q? Q k jab ap ek mulk k peechey apne GCC k sath relations begarein ge....Ek mulk k peechey apne General ko criticize karengey...Ek mulk ko zarorat se ziyada importance denge...to yeh to hoga, bhai....yeh toh hoga...

HIT IRAN HARD....Make alliance against it with KSA and Turkiye...Our weakness is responsible for such behavior of Iran...We let them cross into our side...WE ARE DUMBEST FOOLS WHEN IT COMES TO IRAN...Everyone understands Iran except fool Pakistanis.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Omg stop with the "congrats for the first kill" "we showed them whose the boss" bullshit.

This was a big and slow UCAV designed to engage terrorists who reflects like a sun in the most retarded radars in the world such as those you own.

Next time we'll send simorgh since Anti-terror operations are deemed hostile by Pakistan.

Inform and ask permission from Pakistan first before you try to threaten and or invade our sovereignty again and if you don't we'll shoot down those too, keep this in mind we are not Syria, Iraq or those bloody Arabs, we are Pakistan and we have the capability to defeat you with ease.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

One may look at the name of the website!!!

We are not tracking Pakistan's army or governmental activities, only watching terrorists. Based on Pakistan's official statement, the so called violation was under 4 Km!!! Could be humane error or systematically error during the anti-terrorist operations.
Most of these operations are being done inside our territory unless terrorists flee into Pakistan to their havens.

Sir, it is not about choosing leaders, huh, inside Pakistan's teeritory obviouslt you are the boss. That under 4 Km error could end with a single warning and i see your propaganda machine is saying vise versa. If it was about choosing boss, you could see Iran's SAMs deployed on your boundaries. We have no reason for enmity on Pakistan but your ignorant leaders are ignoring terrorist activities on that boundary.

Come suck my dick Chinese, this has nothing to do with you!

Something you Pakistanis will never get, that terrorist activity is a mutual threat. Some unfortunate

human error occurs once, twice, thrice but not for whole 6 fking months...

 

[BHarwana]

Saudi funded article nothing more to say in this thread. After what Saudis did to Qatar I think Iran has been justified.