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Iran offers to mediate between Pakistan, India over Kashmir

Resolution cannot be reached via dialogue, esp not with Pakistan, if anything this will only be resolved by conflict - to mask it under the cloak of dialogue is simply stupid.

Thats ridiculous, conflict can be resolved with diplomacy like it has been around the world. Stop acting like an armchair general and look at the realities, India cant secure a military victory over Pakistan.

Also, If you dont think it can't be solved by dialogue, then what are you talking about when you say it can only be bilateral negotiations? Why contradict yourself?
 
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Not bad initiative even though India's foreign policy is quite fixed on Pakistan. Why Iran doesn't feel same about KSA? I mean start with KSA for ceasefire or truce to put end to their sectarian wars. Iran credibility is genuine only when Iran lives up to its own words.
 
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Thats ridiculous, conflict can be resolved with diplomacy like it has been around the world. Stop acting like an armchair general and look at the realities, India cant secure a military victory over Pakistan.

Also, If you dont think it can't be solved by dialogue, then what are you talking about when you say it can only be bilateral negotiations? Why contradict yourself?

No one is acting like an armchair General, see how I compose my posts in a non-biased/factual perspective. Since partition, the K issue has not been resolved, out of which 4 wars were fought. India has won them decisively. Your skirmishes caused great casualties, but you guys never outright won a conflict per say!

The sad part about these conflicts so to speak were all started by Pakistan. Bilateral does not mean a tea party in where we discuss our difference and make comprimise's, No!

Bilateral as in whatever extent the situation arises too, be it diplomacy or war it will be a 2-way street, no 3rd Party in this!
 
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India has won them decisively. Your skirmishes caused great casualties, but you guys never outright won a conflict per say!

3 wars and a skirmish, and neither of them were won 'decisively' by India. Even 1971 only succeeded with the help of larggge numbers of Anti-Pakistani militants. India also took massive casualties and did not achieve its objectives in the wars, which is why all of them ended on ceasefire and no major gain in territory. If you genuinely believe what you are saying then why did India not take Azad kashmir or Gilgit? out of the kindness of their hearts?

The sad part about these conflicts so to speak were all started by Pakistan. Bilateral does not mean a tea party in where we discuss our difference and make comprimise's, No!

Bilateral as in whatever extent the situation arises too, be it diplomacy or war it will be a 2-way street, no 3rd Party in this!

Yeah, thats why a third party mediates and creates a solution that both sides can agree on. A third party that is neutral and is agreed upon by both sides, which many countries have shown interest in playing. You keep saying that mediation is not possible, only bilateral but you still haven't explained what the hell that means, does it mean that you dont want to solve the conflict? or does it mean that you only want war?
 
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3 wars and a skirmish, and neither of them were won 'decisively' by India. Even 1971 only succeeded with the help of larggge numbers of Anti-Pakistani militants. India also took massive casualties and did not achieve its objectives in the wars, which is why all of them ended on ceasefire and no major gain in territory. If you genuinely believe what you are saying then why did India not take Azad kashmir or Gilgit? out of the kindness of their hearts?



Yeah, thats why a third party mediates and creates a solution that both sides can agree on. A third party that is neutral and is agreed upon by both sides, which many countries have shown interest in playing. You keep saying that mediation is not possible, only bilateral but you still haven't explained what the hell that means, does it mean that you dont want to solve the conflict? or does it mean that you only want war?

The outcome from us will be the same, no matter how absurd you may seem to think it is. This will not change our original stance - PS: Too much energy for something which can be summarised in one sentence.

"Vacate & end the illegal occupation of Kashmir".

There is no compromise & no other diplomatic avenues to pursue this. if you think can't conform to this, then it will lead to conflict.
 
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Now I leave the Persian lobby in Pakistan to the thread.
I suggest Pakistan also develop a Pakistan lobby in Iran. Iran is going to be an important country because of its oil and gas. Cultural links b/w Iran will also be beneficial, our region always had Farsi as second language, there is huge amount of Islamic literature in farsi. Most of Islamic philosophy is written in Farsi. Islamic philosophy is still a living tradition in Iran, Ibn sina, suhrawardi, mula sadra.. Most mystic literature probably is in Farsi.
 
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The outcome from us will be the same, no matter how absurd you may seem to think it is. This will not change our original stance - PS: Too much energy for something which can be summarised in one sentence.

"Vacate & end the illegal occupation of Kashmir".

There is no compromise & no other diplomatic avenues to pursue this. if you think can't conform to this, then it will lead to conflict.
Pak will vacate and end illegal occupation of Kashmir if India vacates and ends illegal occupation of Junagadh. Instrument of Accession goes both ways ;)
 
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We just just let Iran and Turkey fight between themselves to come to an conclusion to who's going to play a bigger role to mediate between India and pakistan.
Thats very very hindu and zainist way of dealing things...get over it .. people are getting more smater then your ideas b...
 
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The outcome from us will be the same, no matter how absurd you may seem to think it is. This will not change our original stance - PS: Too much energy for something which can be summarised in one sentence.

"Vacate & end the illegal occupation of Kashmir".

There is no compromise & no other diplomatic avenues to pursue this. if you think can't conform to this, then it will lead to conflict.
"Vacate & end the illegal occupation of Kashmir", First than we do same:p:
 
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Solve Kashmir and let your India prosper , keep atrocities on Kashmiris and we make sure you have no future in the world.
 
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Pak will vacate and end illegal occupation of Kashmir if India vacates and ends illegal occupation of Junagadh. Instrument of Accession goes both ways ;)

Are you for real? Your army is waiting for that to happen (licking their fingers), you really think that if we vacate you will as well? we are not living in a fool's paradise!

Sorry, but there is no way the words of the Pakistani establishment can be taken with seriousness, nor are we stupid to take words as gospel.
 
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Kashmir issue is priority one issue for the world now. It is the Nuclear flash point in the region. And it is tale of human rights crisis of worst of its kind
 
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