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To be honest, all tragedies happened to Iran were caused by Islam, the ideology. Iran shouldn't have provoked USA and Israel if she is not an Islamic country, which isolated herself from the whole world. In ancient time, the Persia was the best friend of Tang(one of China's dynasty). Now China and Iran will never be as close as Tang and Persia. Because we have totally different ideologies.
 
To be honest, all tragedies happened to Iran were caused by Islam, the ideology. Iran shouldn't have provoked USA and Israel if she is not an Islamic country, which isolated herself from the whole world. In ancient time, the Persia was the best friend of Tang(one of China's dynasty). Now China and Iran will never be as close as Tang and Persia. Because we have totally different ideologies.
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To be honest, all tragedies happened to Iran were caused by Islam, the ideology. Iran shouldn't have provoked USA and Israel if she is not an Islamic country, which isolated herself from the whole world. In ancient time, the Persia was the best friend of Tang(one of China's dynasty). Now China and Iran will never be as close as Tang and Persia. Because we have totally different ideologies.

Your logic is weird.

It is not Iran who wants to isolate herself from the rest of the world.

It is the US who wants to isolate a country who refuses to bow down.
 
Your logic is weird.

It is not Iran who wants to isolate herself from the rest of the world.

It is the US who wants to isolate a country who refuses to bow down.
Iran kidnapped US embassy staff. Which obviously violated international law. It's unacceptable for any country. I call it recklessness rather than courage. During Islamic revolution, Iran was a crazy country and often did something beyond ppl's imagination.

And why Iran hates Israel so much? The two countries don't even share border. For me, The hatred between Iran and Israel is unreasonable and could be avoided from the beginning.
 
Iran kidnapped US embassy staff. Which obviously violated international law. It's unacceptable for any country. I call it recklessness rather than courage. During Islamic revolution, Iran was a crazy country and often did something beyond ppl's imagination.

And why Iran hates Israel so much? The two countries don't even share border. For me, The hatred between Iran and Israel is unreasonable and could be avoided from the beginning.

- The current Iranian regime is diplomatically mature, so don't bring the old stuff.

- Iran and Israel are competitors. Even Iran does not act hostile towards Israel, Israel itself won't tolerate the rise of the Shia regime.

I suggest you to look the world geopolitics deeper, just stop being a simpleton by only looking at the surface of the problems.
 
- The current Iranian regime is diplomatically mature, so don't bring the old stuff.

- Iran and Israel are competitors. Even Iran does not act hostile towards Israel, Israel itself won't tolerate the rise of the Shia regime.

I suggest you to look the world geopolitics deeper, just stop being a simpleton by only looking at the surface of the problems.
Today is the result of yesterday. Not to mention Iran's political system has not changed since 1979.

You attributed the tension between Iran and Israel to Israel only. The fact is, it is Iran who always provokes Israel. Israel never said they will erase Iran from map. But Iran did. Israel is willing to and able to peacefully live with other Muslim countries, Egypt for example. They used to be enemies in the battle field. But once Egypt accepted Israel as an independent country, Israel immediately changed their hostile attitude toward her old enemy.
 
Today is the result of yesterday. Not to mention Iran's political system has not changed since 1979.

You attributed the tension between Iran and Israel to Israel only. The fact is, it is Iran who always provokes Israel. Israel never said they will erase Iran from map. But Iran did. Israel is willing to and able to peacefully live with other Muslim countries, Egypt for example. They used to be enemies in the battle field. But once Egypt accepted Israel as an independent country, Israel immediately changed their hostile attitude toward her old enemy.

Neither Iran did say that, just stop listening the western media's twist.

Israel is not our friend, but Iran is much more useful to us than Israel.
 
Today is the result of yesterday. Not to mention Iran's political system has not changed since 1979.

You attributed the tension between Iran and Israel to Israel only. The fact is, it is Iran who always provokes Israel. Israel never said they will erase Iran from map. But Iran did. Israel is willing to and able to peacefully live with other Muslim countries, Egypt for example. They used to be enemies in the battle field. But once Egypt accepted Israel as an independent country, Israel immediately changed their hostile attitude toward her old enemy.


All Iran say is Israelis should go back to where that they have come from .
 
别做猪队友,有些话知道也别说,瞎说什么实话:coffee:
 
To be honest, all tragedies happened to Iran were caused by Islam, the ideology. Iran shouldn't have provoked USA and Israel if she is not an Islamic country, which isolated herself from the whole world. In ancient time, the Persia was the best friend of Tang(one of China's dynasty). Now China and Iran will never be as close as Tang and Persia. Because we have totally different ideologies.
本来不想多说的,还是忍不住。
不是伊朗惹美以,更不仅仅是因为伊斯兰的关系,更重要的还是地缘政治,如果不明白请去学习地缘政治和打开世界地图。

中国的唐和当年的波斯虽然关系友好,但是在一直被白衣大食也就是倭马亚王朝阿拉伯帝国的进犯下无助的萨珊波斯的眼中唐更多是“救世主”的角色----希望唐帮其抵抗后期是帮其复国,说什么关系多好言过其实,如此的地理距离就决定了2国不可能有深入的交流,这是古代科技的局限性决定的。硬要说唐在中亚最友好的国家也是拔汗那,远轮不到波斯。

最后,不管是伊朗人还是巴基斯坦人,他们虽然宗教派别不同,但是还是有很强的民族自豪感的,对自己的宗教信仰还是很自豪的。正因为如此,在一个对中国很友好的穆斯林国家的论坛上对另一个对中国来说不是敌人反而有很多合作机会的穆斯林国家网友狂说就是你们信伊斯兰才惹恼了美国以色列;才被世界孤立;才和中国再也不能成为好朋友了,都是伊斯兰的错。这种行为我真正的感觉是逗比中的战斗机。:coffee::nono:
 
本来不想多说的,还是忍不住。
不是伊朗惹美以,更不仅仅是因为伊斯兰的关系,更重要的还是地缘政治,如果不明白请去学习地缘政治和打开世界地图。

中国的唐和当年的波斯虽然关系友好,但是在一直被白衣大食也就是倭马亚王朝阿拉伯帝国的进犯下无助的萨珊波斯的眼中唐更多是“救世主”的角色----希望唐帮其抵抗后期是帮其复国,说什么关系多好言过其实,如此的地理距离就决定了2国不可能有深入的交流,这是古代科技的局限性决定的。硬要说唐在中亚最友好的国家也是拔汗那,远轮不到波斯。

最后,不管是伊朗人还是巴基斯坦人,他们虽然宗教派别不同,但是还是有很强的民族自豪感的,对自己的宗教信仰还是很自豪的。正因为如此,在一个对中国很友好的穆斯林国家的论坛上对另一个对中国来说不是敌人反而有很多合作机会的穆斯林国家网友狂说就是你们信伊斯兰才惹恼了美国以色列;才被世界孤立;才和中国再也不能成为好朋友了,都是伊斯兰的错。这种行为我真正的感觉是逗比中的战斗机。:coffee::nono:
我接触过伊朗人,他们与阿拉伯人的重要不同点是,对宗教并没有想象的那么执着,伊斯兰是啥样我们都清楚,我的观点始终是,别看美国和中国现在对立,从长远看,中美之间并没有根本性的冲突,而中国和穆斯林世界的文明冲突以后会越来越突出,所以不能因为现在的中美矛盾而姑息养奸,那样以后的中国人会后悔的,无论是巴基斯坦还是伊朗,以后都是靠不住的,没看到很多巴基斯坦人在替维族鸣不平吗?趁着事态还没变的最坏,现在能救一个是一个。
 
我接触过伊朗人,他们与阿拉伯人的重要不同点是,对宗教并没有想象的那么执着,伊斯兰是啥样我们都清楚,我的观点始终是,别看美国和中国现在对立,从长远看,中美之间并没有根本性的冲突,而中国和穆斯林世界的文明冲突以后会越来越突出,所以不能因为现在的中美矛盾而姑息养奸,那样以后的中国人会后悔的,无论是巴基斯坦还是伊朗,以后都是靠不住的,没看到很多巴基斯坦人在替维族鸣不平吗?趁着事态还没变的最坏,现在能救一个是一个。
能救一个是一个?救谁?不管是伊还是巴人都不会你这几句话去改变他们的信仰,更加可能会认为你冒犯了他;救国人?明智的国人当然分得清什么是什么,不明白的这里也不是说这些的地方。在什么地方说什么话,这很重要。这不是虚伪不虚伪的问题,这是技巧。。。

最后,我并不认为伊斯兰会是什么大问题,它也许会是麻烦的东西,甚至在西方推波助澜下会很麻烦,但是本质----实力决定了其不可能是心腹之患(工业能力,科技能力),说到底这世界最终是靠实力说话的。你是如何得出中美没根本性冲突而伊斯兰文明却是我们的真敌人?我简直都已经惊呆了。不要因为厌恶某些东西而让其左右了你的理智。
 
能救一个是一个?救谁?不管是伊还是巴人都不会你这几句话去改变他们的信仰,更加可能会认为你冒犯了他;救国人?明智的国人当然分得清什么是什么,不明白的这里也不是说这些的地方。在什么地方说什么话,这很重要。这不是虚伪不虚伪的问题,这是技巧。。。

最后,我并不认为伊斯兰会是什么大问题,它也许会是麻烦的东西,甚至在西方推波助澜下会很麻烦,但是本质----实力决定了其不可能是心腹之患(工业能力,科技能力),说到底这世界最终是靠实力说话的。你是如何得出中美没根本性冲突而伊斯兰文明却是我们的真敌人?我简直都已经惊呆了。不要因为厌恶某些东西而让其左右了你的理智。
我说接触过伊朗人,可不是在网上接触,我能告诉你我见到的伊朗人来中国后,女人从来都没戴头巾,甚至吃饭不忌口吗?作为一个在国内穆斯林论坛泡了近十年的人,维吾尔在线,伊光论坛,中穆论坛,咱都曾经或者正在泡,穆斯林啥样你觉得我会比你认识的差?你认为出现ISIS这样的反人类伊斯兰组织是偶然的吗?穆斯林的问题根本不是美国或西方把他们怎么样了,是他们有心魔,所以极端穆斯林越来越多,美国反恐不可能根除恐怖主义,因为穆斯林的心魔还在,恐怖分子就像韭菜一样,割完一茬,还会再长一茬。ISIS只是个征兆,穆斯林会越来越极端化,走着瞧吧。
 

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