Iran imposed sanctions against 15 US companies "supporting terrorism"

[Sina-1]

I don't care for that terroristic excuse for a "state", but I don't care for Hamas when they keep backstabbing us.

Withdraw support from Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups since they obviously don't want our help. Instead, support other groups like Hezbollah, our military, or the economy.

Has any official in Iran ever claimed that they are financially or militarily support Hamas?

 

[lastman]

Seriously though. This is toothless and inconsistent.

Toothless because non of the above companies do business with Iran, or even have it on their future agenda. SO WHATS THE POINT?

Inconsistent because Boeing with it's Israeli f15 are not on the list. Obviously because of the aircraft deal with Iran.

This just goes to show that the level of political IQ is very varying in Iran. Some moves are brilliant and some are...well... let's just say strange.

Its just a msg being sent to the americans.
Sanctioning boeing is counterproductive as Iran needs modern passanger jets.
Idea is not to cut the nose to spite the face.

 

[Cthulhu]

I don't care for that terroristic excuse for a "state", but I don't care for Hamas when they keep backstabbing us.

Withdraw support from Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups since they obviously don't want our help. Instead, support other groups like Hezbollah, our military, or the economy.

Agree with you on Hamas thing, but i think we must completely step back from this conflict, this is a conflict that caused us 40 years of misery, No other country (even Muslim countries) isn't destroying it's economy and future for this issue like we do. If we look at this issue from our national interests perspective (which is what we should do from the first place and these ayatollahs are not going to do it), Israel never attacked us nor is holding our territories, and if these ayatollahs stop poking Israel, it will have no have no reason to attack us. This is also main core of our problems with the west and we can solve them too.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Agree with you on Hamas thing, but i think we must completely step back from this conflict, this is a conflict that caused us 40 years of misery, No other country (even Muslim countries) isn't destroying it's economy and future for this issue like we do. If we look at this issue from our national interests perspective (which is what we should do from the first place and these ayatollahs are not going to do it), Israel never attacked us nor is holding our territories, and if these ayatollahs stop poking Israel, it will have no have no reason to attack us. This is also main core of our problems with the west and we can solve them too.

True to some extent, but your islamists government came to power using this religious slogan of Islamic revival led by the mullahs for this reason. So they will lose all their legitimacy if they ever adopted the policies you just stated above. Therein lies the problem.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Did the United States launch operation Ajax to oust Mosadeq because he was supporting the Palestinian cause? No. As long as any country (outside of the U.S's sphere of control) has aspirations of developing into a strong independent Nation it will find itself in the crosshairs of the U.S. Iran is in its moral right of championing the Palestinians in their struggle against their Israeli oppressors and just because no other Nation is willing to act in a moral way in regards to the Israel/Palestine issue it does not mean that Iran should not either. Some "Persians" don't mind being the West's lap dog as long as they get a treat and a pet on the head once in a while.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Agree with you on Hamas thing, but i think we must completely step back from this conflict, this is a conflict that caused us 40 years of misery, No other country (even Muslim countries) isn't destroying it's economy and future for this issue like we do. If we look at this issue from our national interests perspective (which is what we should do from the first place and these ayatollahs are not going to do it), Israel never attacked us nor is holding our territories, and if these ayatollahs stop poking Israel, it will have no have no reason to attack us. This is also main core of our problems with the west and we can solve them too.

Since its inception Israel has made the territorial integrity (or lack thereof) of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan and even Iraq a joke. They can carry out airstrikes with impunity. The range of their territorial violations will only increase.

Israel and the US have no intention to leave Iran alone as long as Iran is an independent nation. We must repel them. My point is that while we must repel them, we must only repel them in places that are effective. Hamas is not effective. Hezbollah and our own armed forces and economy is.

 

[haman10]

Since its inception Israel has made the territorial integrity (or lack thereof) of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan and even Iraq a joke. They can carry out airstrikes with impunity. The range of their territorial violations will only increase.

Israel and the US have no intention to leave Iran alone as long as Iran is an independent nation. We must repel them. My point is that while we must repel them, we must only repel them in places that are effective. Hamas is not effective. Hezbollah and our own armed forces and economy is.

Great post. Its always great to see that Iranians outside of Iran sometimes have greater vision than some of them inside our country.

So unfortunate living with people who think Israel has been nice to Iran. tell that to the families of our nuclear scientists who were barbarically terrorised by that racist regime.

"they haven's occupied our lands" is that what it takes some people to stand against animosity? shameful.

if you don't have self-respect, go die.

 

[AmirPatriot]

shameful.

if you don't have self-respect, go die.

I think you're being harsh...

 

[Fafnir]

Great post. Its always great to see that Iranians outside of Iran sometimes have greater vision than some of them inside our country.

So unfortunate living with people who think Israel has been nice to Iran. tell that to the families of our nuclear scientists who were barbarically terrorised by that racist regime.

"they haven's occupied our lands" is that what it takes some people to stand against animosity? shameful.

if you don't have self-respect, go die.

Yes that sentiment reminds me of those who supported apartheid south africa and would use the same:"its none of our business" or "we arent black so who cares" arguments.

 

[Kastor]

@Cthulhu, In some small degree I agree with you, however without a counterweight Israel is a Frankenstein Unbound. Unfortunately the other Muslim nations don't have the balls or smarts to take on Israel, so sadly it has fallen on our shoulders. The Palestinian cause should not be an Iranian issue, it should be a world issue. Until it becomes a world issue, it will not be solved. With that said Israel is a bully, they attack civilians frequently, they use disproportionate power, even banned weapons against our allies. The only reason Iran has been marked as a pariah state is due to Israel's de facto arm AIPAC and it's immense power in U.S. Congress, that and all of the Think Tanks in the D.C. area that feeds the government it's policy papers. We have lost Trillions of dollars in lost oil revenues due to their actions. We need to be smarter about these things. Ahmadinejad was a gift from God for them.

 

[Cthulhu]

Great post. Its always great to see that Iranians outside of Iran sometimes have greater vision than some of them inside our country.

So unfortunate living with people who think Israel has been nice to Iran. tell that to the families of our nuclear scientists who were barbarically terrorised by that racist regime.

"they haven's occupied our lands" is that what it takes some people to stand against animosity? shameful.

if you don't have self-respect, go die.

All of you perfectly know that Israel didn't started this conflict with us, All of you know that it was Imam Khomeini who started this with his "اسرائیل باید از صحنه روزگار محو شود" policy, prior to that Israel absolutely didn't do anything to us whatsoever, so why he started calling for destruction Israel? This conflict was Israel's problem with it's neighboring countries and Imam Khomeini put us right in the middle of it for no reason. Someone answer me this, what we gained with 40 years of shouting death to Israel? Did it solve our economic problems? Did it tighten our civil liberties(If you believe in such a thing)? Did it heightened our life standards? Did it solve our environmental problems? Standing against animosity my a*s, The animosity that we are the cause of it? If anyone can convince my that this conflict has something in it for us from national interests perspective, I'll say nothing more, buy a one way ticket to Lebanon and start fighting Israelis.

So unfortunate living with people who think Israel has been nice to Iran. tell that to the families of our nuclear scientists who were barbarically terrorised by that racist regime.

The Israelis are thugs, murderers, terrorists and bad guys on this one, i agree with all of that. But there are always two sides to a story, For the Israelis, they've lived 30 year with everyday hearing about we shouting "death to Israel" and "Israel must be wiped out from the face of the earth" and if you are sitting in Tel Aviv and listening to that and seeing how we proceed our nuclear program, you say what do we do to prevent them? And human nature being what it is, you can't be surprised that they are doing this.

Yes that sentiment reminds me of those who supported apartheid south africa and would use the same:"its none of our business" or "we arent black so who cares" arguments.

Dude this apartheid, racism, fascism, dictatorship, and... doesn't matter when it comes to national interests, they are irrelevant. These are just something that governments feed their own citizens to justify their actions, and you don't really want to go this way cause i can embarrass every single Muslim country, the U.S, the European countries, Russia and China when it comes to this matter.

shameful.

if you don't have self-respect, go die.

What's more shameful, me having a different opinion than you and expressing it without insulting anyone or you telling me "go die" for expressing my opinion?

 

[haman10]

I think you're being harsh...

No, i don't think so.

how we proceed our nuclear program

oh thats just a new level of low. very low i mean.

We're oceans apart in our view of the world. there is no point arguing with someone who agrees with Israeli regime who has hundreds of nuclear warheads that his own country's nuclear program is a threat.

lol, thats when i say self-respect is a good thing. you need more of that.
@AmirPatriot i hope that wasn't harsh bro. i know these people brother, you just have to wait and see their true face.

What's more shameful, me having a different opinion than you and expressing it without insulting anyone or you telling me "go die" for expressing my opinion?

i didn't ask you to go die because you expressed your opinion. hell those who know me like amir and serpentine (iranian mod) out side this forum know that i recently lost any fvck to give about palestinian issue. i lost all my sympathy whatsoever (i had a lot of it prior to this). but the animosity between the terrorist regime of Israel and Iran is not a new thing. it dates back to long before any Islamic revolution.

They killed our people during saddam's invasion of Iran by direct involvement in arming their regime, they threaten our country with military action on a daily basis, they support terrorist groups like jaish-al-adl and other "kurd" terrorists like democratic party of crap in Iraq and PJAK. they constantly attack our allies in the region and support Syrian terrorists. they assassinate our scientists and arm dictatorial regimes like Azerbaijan and Saudia.

"Iran started this" are you kidding me ?

enjoy your Purim

 

[MIRZA TAUQEER BAIG]

good step taken by Iran

 

[mohsen]

if American's interest is to have a racist Zionist puppet 10,000 km away in the middle east, then our strategy must be countering their interest in every possible way.

Since its inception Israel has made the territorial integrity (or lack thereof) of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan and even Iraq a joke. They can carry out airstrikes with impunity. The range of their territorial violations will only increase.

Israel and the US have no intention to leave Iran alone as long as Iran is an independent nation. We must repel them. My point is that while we must repel them, we must only repel them in places that are effective. Hamas is not effective. Hezbollah and our own armed forces and economy is.

repel is an inadequate strategy, the right strategy is to counter them.

They have created and are supporting dozens of terrorist groups against Iran, so supporting Hamas or any other armed group against Israel is the least thing we should do;
for this support, we expect nothing, cause it's our own interest, in contrast to backstabbing argument.

also from economic point of view, Israelis have to spend billions of dollars to develop a system which Hamas fighters build in their kitchen, use a missile hundreds times more expensive to counter a Hamas rocket, imposing a costly war on them.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

1. Islamic republic in no way represents mossadeq, even considers him a British spy as confirmed by our momen brother @mohsen
That's a part we wont repeat, so please never relate great Mossadeq to Islamic republic in any way..

I was not comparing Mossadeg to the Islamic Republic. I think you missed my point completely