Iran, free trade pact top EU-India summit agenda

[Harry_Thomason]

^^^ the biggest cost benefit for us would be the avoidance of a potential war between two of our friends. That is enough for us to give it a try.

Sure, give it a try. US wont listen to India though, China has much greater leverage over US, and yet their opinion is ignored as well. Warmongers in US and Israel have far greater impact over US foreign policy, than the rest of the World combined.

 

[illusion8]

You have idealistic perception, West doesnt talk with Iran as an equal partner, they say "do our way, or get sanctions or even war". Problem is difference in power and influence, therefore jungle rules apply "the strong is always right, and weak is eaten".

Then the discussion will not carry forward, But thats where the qualities of a mature country mediating comes into play.

 

[Sugarcane]

My feeling is that whatever India's foreign policy needs more pragmatism.
India has to decide about wheather India can go along with Iran in the long run?
Is oil is the only source for which India is supporting Iran in this case?
What is the cost benefit analysis for being in side with Iran? Because this is a fact that in case of global level Iran will never support India in any of the global forum where India needs it with respect to Pakistan because of religion factor.

Can Iran assist us in providing assured transit to Afghanistan to promote India's business interest in AF and Central Asia?

If India is not getting strategic beinifits then what is the point in lining up with Iran? (it is not like i don't like to be side with Iran.But my problem is that I know for sure Iran will not side with India whenever the need arises vis a vis Pakistan. Then what we are getting in return?

Com'n dude, Iran always supported India against Pakistan since shah is gone and you still don't believe????

 

[rai_kamal]

My feeling is that whatever India's foreign policy needs more pragmatism.
India has to decide about wheather India can go along with Iran in the long run?
Is oil is the only source for which India is supporting Iran in this case?
What is the cost benefit analysis for being in side with Iran? Because this is a fact that in case of global level Iran will never support India in any of the global forum where India needs it with respect to Pakistan because of religion factor.

Can Iran assist us in providing assured transit to Afghanistan to promote India's business interest in AF and Central Asia?

If India is not getting strategic beinifits then what is the point in lining up with Iran? (it is not like i don't like to be side with Iran.But my problem is that I know for sure Iran will not side with India whenever the need arises vis a vis Pakistan. Then what we are getting in return?

Not only that, what benefit will we get by pressurizing iran ??? Will US and EU will helps with oil export or will they allow indian companies more access to their market for this ??(I m getting a bit greedy...)

 

[Kaniska]

And again dude...please we indian should not be in the illusion that we can help out in mediating between US and Iran...this is BS propaganda....India can not mediate between the different parties in small nations like Maldavies and Nepal...now you are talking about Iran and US....These are stupid ideas...We should really know our limitations properly...

 

[illusion8]

^^^ LOL I think India will definitely give at least a try.

 

[Sugarcane]

Not only that, what benefit will we get by pressurizing iran ??? Will US and EU will helps with oil export or will they allow indian companies more access to their market for this ??(I m getting a bit greedy...)

Here you go

 

[Tshering22]

Nothing Iran says will change US and its alies minds, nothing. Nuclear dispute is just a cover for the real goal - changing Iran's government to subordinate regime like it was in Shah times.

See this is what will make Iranian public more determined that even if there is a counter-revolution to a more non-religious government coming into power, they will still be ultra-nationalistic. Getting the Shah regime back is not possible. The best is that European Union could become more friendly and negotiate peace between Iran and Israel.

Once both the countries start trading, there will be zero tensions between them. No Hezbolla sponsoring, no counter assassinations.

If this happens, it will be good for the whole region. Besides, Iran and Israel don't even share a border to have any ongoing disputes. Which means any miscommunication between the two can be solved relatively easily.

The entire region would be peaceful if Iran and Israel can reconcile and let go off each others' throats.

Trade is the ONLY way of doing that.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

The entire region would be peaceful if Iran and Israel can reconcile and let go off each others' throats.

Trade is the ONLY way of doing that.

Trade wont fix it IMO, until Israel stops its criminal activity:

1. Returns the occupied territories.
2. Pays considerable compensation to Palestinians.
3. Allows International Court to persecute Jews who committed crimes against humanity.
4. Allow Palestinians to create their country unhindered.

Suddenly there would be peace with Palestinians, mutual recognition (Iran said they would recognize Israel too).

To have friendly relationships with Iran and other countries in the region, Israel would have to get rid off nuclear weapons (they are under full US protection anyway) and stop inciting wars.

Will Israel do it? No. They want to keep the occupied land, they face no consequences for whatever they do to Palestinians due to US influence and vetos, they want to push US to wars against Iran and others, etc. Therefore peace wont happen.

 

[Tshering22]

Trade wont fix it IMO, until Israel stops its criminal activity:

1. Returns the occupied territories.
2. Pays considerable compensation to Palestinians.
3. Allows International Court to persecute Jews who committed crimes against humanity.
4. Allow Palestinians to create their country unhindered.

Iranians and Arabs have nothing in common by modern politics. Religion is a personal choice according to world politics and has no justification to be a factor of target attacks against Israel.

Israel won those territories in a war that it did not start but ended. They returned the Sinai back out of goodwill. There's nothing left for them to return.

Suddenly there would be peace with Palestinians, mutual recognition (Iran said they would recognize Israel too).

Iran has nothing to do with Palestinians other than a political investment to claim dominance over middle east. The only factor that Iran can justify is the Muslim factor which has no place in any law system that sees religion and beliefs as personal choices. So what grounds can either claim.

To have friendly relationships with Iran and other countries in the region, Israel would have to get rid off nuclear weapons (they are under full US protection anyway) and stop inciting wars.

None of this is going to happen. By that logic, there's no need for even a military for peace.

Will Israel do it? No. They want to keep the occupied land, they face no consequences for whatever they do to Palestinians due to US influence and vetos, they want to push US to wars against Iran and others, etc. Therefore peace wont happen.

There is no land occupation there. If we keep tracing back history for everything, the world map would be very different than it is today. So where do you want to stop the limits?

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Israel won those territories in a war that it did not start but ended. They returned the Sinai back out of goodwill. There's nothing left for them to return.

Israel started all those wars, including "pre-emptive" strike in 1967 Six-days war. And they are occupying the lands of Palestinians.

UN confirms Israel is occupant: Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Iran has nothing to do with Palestinians other than a political investment to claim dominance over middle east. The only factor that Iran can justify is the Muslim factor which has no place in any law system that sees religion and beliefs as personal choices. So what grounds can either claim.

Any decent human being feel compassion for Palestinians, too bad so many countries turns away due to Israel/US influence. Iran and few others express that on a country level.