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Iran fencing border with Pakistan.

you are again trying to avoid the question, forget about paksitan army and what they do, do you respect the wishes of pashtons of afghanistan to take KPK?

i respect the pashtuns of KPK....

the guy mde an imp point the KPK pashtuns dont want afghanistan which are a majority on the afghani pashtuns, but guess more what the KPK pashtuns if join afghanistan will become majority and majority will then opt to join pakistan again ;)
 
ahmed we dont respect such BS and we will kick very badly if someone dare to do so.because pashtoons of pakistan are part of pakistan forever.and let dream afghanis thank god they have no power at all otherwise you know they can nuke us.these BS claims are all around world if we start divide in this way let divide india afghanistan 25 pcs and then think abut pakistan and china.

and they are more pakistani then any other pakistani . please dont you claim and say they claim.you are not even a pakistani nor pakistani pashtoon
 
i respect the pashtuns of KPK....

the guy mde an imp point the KPK pashtuns dont want afghanistan which are a majority on the afghani pashtuns, but guess more what the KPK pashtuns if join afghanistan will become majority and majority will then opt to join pakistan again ;)

man dont bring pakistani pashtons in the middle, i am talking about afghani pashtons, do you repsect this specific wish of afghani pasthons?
 
ahmed we dont respect such BS and we will kick very badly if someone dare to do so.because pashtoons of pakistan are part of pakistan forever.and let dream afghanis thank god they have no power at all otherwise you know they can nuke us.these BS claims are all around world if we start divide in this way let divide india afghanistan 25 pcs and then think abut pakistan and china.

and they are more pakistani then any other pakistani . please dont you claim and say they claim.you are not even a pakistani nor pakistani pashtoon

Imran khan, you probably need to go back to see my previous posts and other people's posts replying me, that include batman. please do have a look and let me klnow what you think.
 
man dont bring pakistani pashtons in the middle, i am talking about afghani pashtons, do you repsect this specific wish of afghani pasthons?

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why r u asking same questions again and again when u have been answered,
 
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why r u asking same questions again and again when u have been answered,

no i havent been answered, i ask about the pashtons of afghanistan and you bring pakistani army, paksitan pakhtuns etc in the middle. my question is very relevant to your and batman's claims.

and dont forget that those laughing smiles dont make your post a quality one.
 
Ahmed, With all due respect, KPK is part of Pakistan, therefore there is no point in asking an irrelevant question of awarding KPK to afghan population.

I would however stress the need to work out with-in your afghan population how to control afghanistan and rebuild it.
Next would be repayment to Pakistan by afghanistan of 30 Years of service by Pakistan to keep them, (3 million) now not less then 6/7 million afghans with-in Pakistan alone. UN alone did not fund and helped afghans in Pakistan, but Pakistan has spent in billions of rupees on afghans from 80's till now.
 
Ahmed, With all due respect, KPK is part of Pakistan, therefore there is no point in asking an irrelevant question of awarding KPK to afghan population.

I would however stress the need to work out with-in your afghan population how to control afghanistan and rebuild it.
Next would be repayment to Pakistan by afghanistan of 30 Years of service by Pakistan to keep them, (3 million) now not less then 6/7 million afghans with-in Pakistan alone. UN alone did not fund and helped afghans in Pakistan, but Pakistan has spent in billions of rupees on afghans from 80's till now.

Dear Luftwaffe, you do really need to see my posts in this thread from start to comment on it, picking on one post is not good. See from post 39 onwards: http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...es/103766-iran-fencing-border-pakistan-3.html
 
Ahmed such threads go wasted and are crude in nature, what iran does is their decision.
I am not sure why and how did pushtoons topic ended up on this thread but since KPK and afghans taking it back pop-up, I had to reply.
Lets move forward and see a stable peaceful afghanistan as a peaceful cooperative neighbors.
 
Well Ahmad Majority or no majority, the Pashtoons in Afghanistan need to learn to live with in their limits. They should join hands with the rest of the Ethnicities in Afghanistan (and I hate using this word as every one living in the recognized boundaries of that country should consider himself the national of that country, and not what ethnicity he belongs to) to fix their own house. And instead if they want to focus on other areas outside their country and into others then it becomes yours and others who are living in Afghanistan to fix them. And no we dont respect any one who have dubious and suspicious agendas towards my country. Let it be any one.
 
Good now Pakistan should fence the whole Afghanistan border and mine it too.
 
War On Terror - Balochistan De-Focused?

Balochistan, of late has been in a grip of foreign sponsored sporadic acts of terror. Most active in the province has been the Indian intelligence agency ‘RAW' which wanted to open a second front in a bid to divert the government focus from FATA where it has invested hugely in fanning the militancy. There are other foreign agencies operating in Balochistan besides the Indian one. There unequivocal support to the failed and irrelevant militant Baloch leaders, who enjoy draconian authority over Balochis, has been immense. These agencies thrive in Balochistan by exploiting the colonial mind sets of these leaders to destabilize the province. The hype that is created in the international electronic and print media every now and then over Balochistan, which is an essential part of sovereign Pakistan, only expose their vested interests in this Pakistan territory.

The strategic location of Pakistan is very significant. It is significant for it links the northern hemisphere of the world with warm waters of the Arabian Sea for trade reasons. It is significant for having nuclear ambitious Iran as its neighbour and also for being connected with troubled Afghanistan through common borders. Balochistan, the largest province in terms of area, houses the all important port of Gawadar and as such offers the shortest possible routes for Chinese and Afghan trade to the Middle East and Europe and vice versa. US is however, averse to see Chinese trade taking place through the port of Gawadar and the presence of Chinese navy in the area for it puts America's planned Trans Afghanistan Pipeline from the Central Asian States through Balochistan to the South, at risk.

The active involvement of foreign agencies in Pakistan's province of Balochistan has been sufficiently proved. Pakistan's Senate Committee on Defence in June, 2006 had accused British Intelligence of "abetting the insurgency in the province bordering Iran". Also, as per Press Trust of India's press release dated 9 August 2006, Ten British MPs were found involved by the Senate Committee in its closed door session on alleged links of British Secret Service with the Baluch separatists. The British interests in Balochistan were again made conspicuous when its Foreign Policy Centre, sponsored a preposterous one sided propaganda against Pakistan by holding a controversial Seminar in the House of Commons on 27 June 2006. The Centre had collaborated with the so-called Baluchistan Rights Movement then and had invited only anti-Pakistan and self styled activists who only advocated terrorism in the province. No Pakistani scholar or elected representatives from either the central government or the Balochistan province itself, were invited for the seminar.

For India, Balochistan has been another soft target in its bid to destabilize Pakistan. Whereas India fuels the militancy in Pakistan's North Western and FATA through a series of Consulates along the Pakistan borders, it sponsors Balochistan Liberation Front, Balochistan Republican Army and Balochistan National Army through its Consulates located at Zahedan and Mazar in Iran. Not only these Consulates provide funding and guidance to the insurgents in Balochistan they also provide explosives and weapons for terror activities inside the province. A former Rand Scholar Christine Fair, who had visited the Indian Consulate in Zahedan, has also revealed in one of her articles on India's active involvement in destabilisation of Balochistan. This fact was accepted too by a large variety of speakers at a round table conference held in Washington in the first half of this year on the subject. American analysts have also acknowledged Indian funding to the Taliban in Foreign Affairs journal published by the Council for Foreign Relations in Washington.

The root causes for occasional violence that one sees in Balochistan has never been internal poverty or lack of development therein the province but the covert operations of foreign agencies. The involvement in Balochistan affairs by RAW, MI-6 and CIA tantamount to deliberate infringement on the integrity of Pakistan by these respective countries. They greatest pawn in Balochistan being toyed by these agencies is none other than Afghanistan based Brahamdagh Bugti, the proclaimed leader of a militant group ‘Balochistan Liberation Army' to fan out violence in Balochistan. In one of the interviews telecast by ‘Aaj' TV, Bugti made his intentions very clear when he said that he will attack and kill non Baloch population in Balochistan. He also asked India and other powers to help him support his efforts in Balochistan.

The on-going activities of RAW in FATA and Balochistan have also been supported as a recommendation in a 72 page white paper titled, "War on Terror: The Agenda for Action". This white paper was prepared after the 26/11 Mumbai incident by civil society's representatives and presented to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in January this year. One of the recommendations of this white paper read, "Exploit the divisions within Pakistan and expose its weaknesses in Baluchistan, FATA and Azad Kashmir......Mount a sustained diplomatic campaign to build international pressure, especially from the US, with the message that if such efforts fail, India is ready for war. Set a timeline for Pakistan to dismantle terror infrastructure". In fact India has never reconciled with existence of Pakistan as an independent and sovereign nation on its west. As per Captain (Retd) Bharat Verma of Indian Defence Review, "....the foremost threat to the Union (and for centuries before) materialized on the western periphery, continuously. To defend this key threat to the Union, New Delhi should extend its influence through export of both, soft and hard power towards Central Asia from where invasions have been mounted over centuries. Cessation of Pakistan as a state facilitates furtherance of this pivotal national objective..."

Pakistan has sailed through many storms within its short history of existence however; with every incident it has become only more robust, mature and resolute for the right reasons. The State of Pakistan was created to stay and stay it will.
 
Ahmed such threads go wasted and are crude in nature, what iran does is their decision.
I am not sure why and how did pushtoons topic ended up on this thread but since KPK and afghans taking it back pop-up, I had to reply.
Lets move forward and see a stable peaceful afghanistan as a peaceful cooperative neighbors.

Dear brother , i am in no mode to bring these silly issues in the middle unless somebody else unncesssarliy talk about it. Right in this forum i have seen much hatred against myself and my people just because we are afghans, and worst of all if we are coming from non pashtoon ethnicites, they cynically say that pashtuns must have monopoly over afghan afairs and have the only and ultimate decision over everything in the country, only their wish must be considered as valid, when i said that if we talk about their wishes in afghanistan to be valid only and not the others, why should we stop there? why must not we also accept their wishes outside of afghanistan boundry, here they get upset because it is not to the taste of pakistan, dont you think it is double standareds and very irresponsible? but anyways i wont talk about it anymore here as it will derail the topic.
 
Well Ahmad Majority or no majority, the Pashtoons in Afghanistan need to learn to live with in their limits. They should join hands with the rest of the Ethnicities in Afghanistan (and I hate using this word as every one living in the recognized boundaries of that country should consider himself the national of that country, and not what ethnicity he belongs to) to fix their own house. And instead if they want to focus on other areas outside their country and into others then it becomes yours and others who are living in Afghanistan to fix them. And no we dont respect any one who have dubious and suspicious agendas towards my country. Let it be any one.

god bless you buddy.
 
Dear brother , i am in no mode to bring these silly issues in the middle unless somebody else unncesssarliy talk about it. Right in this forum i have seen much hatred against myself and my people just because we are afghans, and worst of all if we are coming from non pashtoon ethnicites, they cynically say that pashtuns must have monopoly over afghan afairs and have the only and ultimate decision over everything in the country, only their wish must be considered as valid, when i said that if we talk about their wishes in afghanistan to be valid only and not the others, why should we stop there? why must not we also accept their wishes outside of afghanistan boundry, here they get upset because it is not to the taste of pakistan, dont you think it is double standareds and very irresponsible? but anyways i wont talk about it anymore here as it will derail the topic.

Dont worry Ahmed brother, all kinds of people exist everywhere, and many a times Afghans are blamed for our own problems because it is taking the easy way out, just like many Afghans tend to blame all of their own problems on Pakistan and take the easy way out instead of looking at themselves and seeing what they themselves were doing wrong. The fact is that at the end of the day both of us are neighbors whether we like it or not, and holding negative opinions of each other will only harm our own interests.
 

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