Iran 'could halt' India oil supplies

[jdme]

Won't do much good if Iran cannot access the account..

 

[T-Rex]

There is no pride here, the point here is that no one can tell us what to do or not. Put yourself in our shoes, we have been around for more then 5000 years as a unified nation with a strong powerful central government. Then in the 21th century you have USA which existence is not more then 400 years old coming telling Iran what to do or not ? We Iranians will not swallow this, others might swallow though. Rights of a nation is undeniable.

Yes, Iran is a dictatorship, but that is Iranian peoples concern and not anyone else, when the time arrives we will handle it ourself
Don't compare India to Iran, 2 different countries with 2 different political and strategical ambitions.





Yes, the truth must be told, the Shah bend over and took it also. This is a disgrace as a nation with so much civilization must getting dictated by a ''country'' like the US.

more peaceful ? wait a minute, is Iran at war now ? do bombs go daily off ? US sponsored terrorists might cause some trouble for us at the borders just 1,2 times per year. Iran is a peaceful country despite being in the middle of 2 war torn nations.



Such as controlling our oil and gas assets ? i love that opening. Well the problem of the image is the sheep people who watch American propaganda channel rubbish about Iran, not our problem, we dont care.


Life without pride is meaningless, then what is the difference between a animal and a human being ? we are here on earth to do something meaningful, TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS, to defend justice and so on. I would rather die standing then dying on my knees.


You just proofed you know nothing about the Iranian politics and its structure. The president of Iran holds no official power. All the official stances are being made by the supreme leader, the president just implements them and represents Iran abroad. China however is playing a smart game, we are making money with them and at the other hand they support US. Russian ignorance towards Iran is because of Medvedev and his pro western cronies, but as time passes you will see that Russia will support Iran again when Putin wins the elections.





Russia and China anti US ? LOL



I already explained this for you, look it up. I will put/ask this in a simple way for you. Your country, India opposes Zionist occupation of Palestine, the zionists pressure US into putting sanctions against India. And at the same time you are doing nuclear research, the US puts more sanctions on you because they want you to bend over and give up. Will you give up? Would you die kneeling to your master or standing tall on your feet ?

This story is getting so old now, till now IAEA has no proof that Iran is building a nuclear weapon,and the IAEA is monitoring 24 hours Iranian nuclear facilities through their installed cameras in the nuclear facilities, till now they found nothing that PROOFS that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. So here is your answer.

LOL, first of all IAEA is a US controlled organization to controll other countries nuclear activities. Second, all our facilities are open to IAEA inspecors who happen to be sometimes covert CIA agent, but however we agree with the inspections, our foreign minister has confirmed this.

All Iranian nuclear sites open to inspections - minister: Voice of Russia






Even if we open up our military compounds/research centers their demands will only get bigger. Nothing can please US, sorry i mean IAEA.
Here is a fact for you, do you know Iran is the only country that got the most visit from IAEI/UN inspectors ?






Demanding a coutnry to stop all its nuclear activities just because that particular country is suspicious is not international diplomacy. this is piracy.




Iran is not clerical anymore, it was in the 80's and 90's but after the fall of Saddamn, everything is now run by sepah pasdaran, the militia force that is controlling all of Iran including its economy. The only cleric that has power is Ali Khamenei.
Well, you know what India should do? not supporting the sanctions on Irans legitimate rights - uranium enrichment -
Iran has pretty good politicians. Look at Iraq, the baath party with its war mongering policies and its ignorance and lack of political understanding got their head of state hanged,their government dissolved by a foreign occupation force and their country occupied. This is what i call political failure. Not Iran, when they are using Arabs as canon fodder for its covert war with Israel. Iran remains safe while both Arabs and Jews smash each others head in. Smart strategy isnt it ? i know.



The Shah liked to bend over due to US pressure, so ofcourse we had to ties and support Israel.





Any nation with the right moral values will oppose the Zionists.




Because Iran has a different Islam implemented by the Persians and that is the Shia Islam, Iran has its own version of Islam that is different to the other Arab states.




Israel doenst need to survive, Israel needs to pack up and go somewhere else. They are a occupying force. We don't negotiate with people who cause death and misery.



Stop repeating the old stuff. There is no blind hatred. Blind hatred is massacring more then 1000 palestinians in 1 week. That is blind hatred.



Since the Iranian revolutionaries came into power in 1979 the Israelis are spreading their hate against Iran and are creating Iranophobia in the world. And all the threats they make about bombing Iranian nuclear facilities (which is a dream that never ever gets realized)

Nations with honour will not ignore their own very rights. Iran isnt going to swallow anything. But at the end we will see who is standing tall. Iran or the US and its puppets.

There are dozens of options, Iran accepts euros aswel, btw, why not gold ?


The money that you are supposed to put in airplanes on a direct plane to Tehran

Iran has been doing a great favour to the world by standing up to the global bully. Of course, to those people who see prostitution as a profession like any other, bending down for a buck or two is everything. National pride, integrity are all nonsense to them. They will never understand or appreciate what Iran stands for. Matter of fact, Iran's foreign policiy only enfuriates them for it makes them look like dogs ready to lick the feet of their master.

 

[Vibs]

Well Iran imports 40% of it's refined oil requirements from India. I'm sure a mutual barter system could easily be worked out for at least part of the payment.

 

[Awesome]

Sorry to burst your bubble Munshi, but-

We'll not cut oil supply to India: Iran


Iran will not cut oil supplies to India despite warning to refiners over their failure to pay for several months, an official was quoted as saying by the Oil Ministry's news website SHANA on Sunday.

A warning has been sent to those refineries that are debtors but sending such a letter does not mean Iran's oil exports have been cut and we have no intention to cut our exports to the Indian market," Mohsen Ghamsari, head of international affairs at the National Iranian Oil Co. (NIOC), was quoted as saying.

In a letter to Indian refiners dated June 27, Iran threatened to halt oil supplies in August unless a resolution to the problem was solved, sources at the refiners and NIOC told Reuters on Friday.

India owes Iran $2 billion for oil imports in recent months due to the payments dispute related to US moves to isolate Iran, which Washington suspects of seeking nuclear weapons. Tehran denies such a charge.

The impasse was triggered in December when the Reserve Bank of India ended a regional clearing mechanism, under US pressure.

Another NIOC official, Deputy Oil Minister Ahmad Ghalebani, said that although some news reports had said Iran had already cut its exports to India, it was not true.

"Iran's crude exports to India are continuing and the news reported in some media that Iran has cut its crude exports to India is absolutely wrong," SHANA quoted him as saying.

Ghamsari said he was optimistic about talks with India.

"The talks with the Indians are still under way, and considering our country's good relations with India, we are hopeful that this problem gets solved as soon as possible."

Samething, those who do not pay, will not get oil. If India does not pay it will not get oil

 

[jdme]

Samething, those who do not pay, will not get oil. If India does not pay it will not get oil

And who are you make such claim?

 

[jdme]

Iran has been doing a great favour to the world by standing up to the global bully. Of course, to those people who see prostitution as a profession like any other, bending down for a buck or two is everything. National pride, integrity are all nonsense to them. They will never understand or appreciate what Iran stands for. Matter of fact, Iran's foreign policiy only enfuriates them for it makes them look like dogs ready to lick the feet of their master.

Standing up to what? Do you think Japan, Korea, Germany.....give up their national interests just because US says so? Why aren't these nations bullied and what exactly they have lost? Oh wait, they have not defined their nation by religious ideology. Even "vocal" China will vote in favor of US resolutions. You are confusing stupidity with pride.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Who is digging such old thread today.??

 

[Tshering22]

Well Iran imports 40% of it's refined oil requirements from India. I'm sure a mutual barter system could easily be worked out for at least part of the payment.

I agree bhai. But with what? That's what the Tehran regime is not telling us. Surely there can be a barter, no harm. But they should tell us what do they want in mode of payment since due to their wonderful political policies, half the world's currencies are inaccessible to them.

And who are you make such claim?

The financial superpower of Asia.

 

[Tshering22]

Standing up to what? Do you think Japan, Korea, Germany.....give up their national interests just because US says so? Why aren't these nations bullied and what exactly they have lost? Oh wait, they have not defined their nation by religious ideology. Even "vocal" China will vote in favor of US resolutions. You are confusing stupidity with pride.

Said it perfectly well. There is bound to be an exchange for this "yes sir". No country is mad enough to agree to someone just because they say they are overlords. Somehow this common sense misses most people and they think posturing against someone fighting unrelated wars means great herogeeri.

 

[TheStrantrunCurve]

There is no pride here, the point here is that no one can tell us what to do or not. Put yourself in our shoes, we have been around for more then 5000 years as a unified nation with a strong powerful central government. Then in the 21th century you have USA which existence is not more then 400 years old coming telling Iran what to do or not ? We Iranians will not swallow this, others might swallow though. Rights of a nation is undeniable.

Yes, Iran is a dictatorship, but that is Iranian peoples concern and not anyone else, when the time arrives we will handle it ourself
Don't compare India to Iran, 2 different countries with 2 different political and strategical ambitions.





Yes, the truth must be told, the Shah bend over and took it also. This is a disgrace as a nation with so much civilization must getting dictated by a ''country'' like the US.

more peaceful ? wait a minute, is Iran at war now ? do bombs go daily off ? US sponsored terrorists might cause some trouble for us at the borders just 1,2 times per year. Iran is a peaceful country despite being in the middle of 2 war torn nations.



Such as controlling our oil and gas assets ? i love that opening. Well the problem of the image is the sheep people who watch American propaganda channel rubbish about Iran, not our problem, we dont care.


Life without pride is meaningless, then what is the difference between a animal and a human being ? we are here on earth to do something meaningful, TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS, to defend justice and so on. I would rather die standing then dying on my knees.


You just proofed you know nothing about the Iranian politics and its structure. The president of Iran holds no official power. All the official stances are being made by the supreme leader, the president just implements them and represents Iran abroad. China however is playing a smart game, we are making money with them and at the other hand they support US. Russian ignorance towards Iran is because of Medvedev and his pro western cronies, but as time passes you will see that Russia will support Iran again when Putin wins the elections.





Russia and China anti US ? LOL



I already explained this for you, look it up. I will put/ask this in a simple way for you. Your country, India opposes Zionist occupation of Palestine, the zionists pressure US into putting sanctions against India. And at the same time you are doing nuclear research, the US puts more sanctions on you because they want you to bend over and give up. Will you give up? Would you die kneeling to your master or standing tall on your feet ?

This story is getting so old now, till now IAEA has no proof that Iran is building a nuclear weapon,and the IAEA is monitoring 24 hours Iranian nuclear facilities through their installed cameras in the nuclear facilities, till now they found nothing that PROOFS that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. So here is your answer.

LOL, first of all IAEA is a US controlled organization to controll other countries nuclear activities. Second, all our facilities are open to IAEA inspecors who happen to be sometimes covert CIA agent, but however we agree with the inspections, our foreign minister has confirmed this.

All Iranian nuclear sites open to inspections - minister: Voice of Russia






Even if we open up our military compounds/research centers their demands will only get bigger. Nothing can please US, sorry i mean IAEA.
Here is a fact for you, do you know Iran is the only country that got the most visit from IAEI/UN inspectors ?






Demanding a coutnry to stop all its nuclear activities just because that particular country is suspicious is not international diplomacy. this is piracy.




Iran is not clerical anymore, it was in the 80's and 90's but after the fall of Saddamn, everything is now run by sepah pasdaran, the militia force that is controlling all of Iran including its economy. The only cleric that has power is Ali Khamenei.
Well, you know what India should do? not supporting the sanctions on Irans legitimate rights - uranium enrichment -
Iran has pretty good politicians. Look at Iraq, the baath party with its war mongering policies and its ignorance and lack of political understanding got their head of state hanged,their government dissolved by a foreign occupation force and their country occupied. This is what i call political failure. Not Iran, when they are using Arabs as canon fodder for its covert war with Israel. Iran remains safe while both Arabs and Jews smash each others head in. Smart strategy isnt it ? i know.



The Shah liked to bend over due to US pressure, so ofcourse we had to ties and support Israel.





Any nation with the right moral values will oppose the Zionists.




Because Iran has a different Islam implemented by the Persians and that is the Shia Islam, Iran has its own version of Islam that is different to the other Arab states.




Israel doenst need to survive, Israel needs to pack up and go somewhere else. They are a occupying force. We don't negotiate with people who cause death and misery.



Stop repeating the old stuff. There is no blind hatred. Blind hatred is massacring more then 1000 palestinians in 1 week. That is blind hatred.



Since the Iranian revolutionaries came into power in 1979 the Israelis are spreading their hate against Iran and are creating Iranophobia in the world. And all the threats they make about bombing Iranian nuclear facilities (which is a dream that never ever gets realized)

Nations with honour will not ignore their own very rights. Iran isnt going to swallow anything. But at the end we will see who is standing tall. Iran or the US and its puppets.

There are dozens of options, Iran accepts euros aswel, btw, why not gold ?


The money that you are supposed to put in airplanes on a direct plane to Tehran

Great Post

There is no pride here, the point here is that no one can tell us what to do or not. Put yourself in our shoes, we have been around for more then 5000 years as a unified nation with a strong powerful central government. Then in the 21th century you have USA which existence is not more then 400 years old coming telling Iran what to do or not ? We Iranians will not swallow this, others might swallow though. Rights of a nation is undeniable.

True that, China and Iran in my history knowledge have been unified nation for thousands of years, The Persians occupied the Pakistan region many times, Persians gave the name “Hind” (modern Sindh) to their eastern most province of their empire, which the gangan bhartis adopted later.

Israel doenst need to survive, Israel needs to pack up and go somewhere else. They are a occupying force. We don't negotiate with people who cause death and misery.

Then Bharat also has no reason to survive as it is occupying force and has killed hundreds of thousands innocent muslims, It was born out of terrorist act, it illegally occupied 500+ princely states. Creation of Bharat was the biggest blunder in the history of mankind. They are an occupying force, They illegally occupied Muslims states of Kashmir, Junagarh and Hyderabad by applying their terrorists tactics.

Iran should also cut its ties with bharat and should condemn its barbaric acts which she is perpetrating in Muslim kashmir

 

[saleen_s7]

We are at odds because the US tells us to bend over and we are not going to do it. Unlike India we dont recieve up our... just for a couple of IPADS and mcdonalds branches. US tells us to stop with enriching uranium, a process that is Irans undeniable right ! Any sane Iranian would disagree with this, as our politicians are doing and there is no power or might in this world that can break the will of our nation.

Nobody is creating a artificial enemy here, stop making things up, Iran only wants her right and that is to do whatever it wants without US dictating it. Israel and the US are busy with creating Iranophobia around the world and particular in the Middle East. We Iranians might have political disagreements with each other but at the end when Irans rights are at stake we will unite and counter the foreign agression, wether it be US or any other country in the world.

Iran recognizes EVERY UN MEMBER EXCEPT ISRAEL and that is because they are a occupying force in someone else land, any other nation with the right leaders and with moral values will oppose Israel. Just because we oppose US troop presence in the Middle East and Israels existance we are under sanctions.

So now tell me Mr.Indian, if you really respect trading with Iran fill the money in the suitcases and send it with airplanes and dont worry, Tehran has direct flights to Mumbai.

An excellent reply to a cheap ill intended post. Iranians have every right to resent America. The country had democracy until the CIA overthrew Mossadak for their oil. And it is a well documented fact that Americans have been meddling with the Iranian people for ages now. And don't forget when the Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane "mistakenly".
Iran should be allowed to get nukes on the same basis as Israel: to defend itself. Iran is surrounded by enemies on all side and I think it is vital that Iran possess nukes as at least one country has threatened to strike it unilaterally. But again, I would deeply hope that the nukes don't go to the wrong hands.

 

[Major Ram]

Then Bharat also has no reason to survive as it is occupying force and has killed hundreds of thousands innocent muslims, It was born out of terrorist act, it illegally occupied 500+ princely states. Creation of Bharat was the biggest blunder in the history of mankind. They are an occupying force, They illegally occupied Muslims states of Kashmir, Junagarh and Hyderabad by applying their terrorists tactics.

Its not Bharat who kills innocent Muslims, its actually the so called jihadis who have killed more Muslims than anyone else in this world. Do you have anything to say about them?

The rest of your post doesn't make any sense so I really don't have anything to talk about.

 

[Tshering22]

Then Bharat also has no reason to survive as it is occupying force and has killed hundreds of thousands innocent muslims, It was born out of terrorist act, it illegally occupied 500+ princely states. Creation of Bharat was the biggest blunder in the history of mankind. They are an occupying force, They illegally occupied Muslims states of Kashmir, Junagarh and Hyderabad by applying their terrorists tactics.

And you wonder why your politics is in dumps and half the world against you with such a hardcore mentality. Politics requires grey matter more than a rush of blood and blind ignorance. Your own country is in a terrible situation right now. If you are indeed so respectful of fellow Muslims then please do not advise Iranians so badly on economic-politics.

Its not Bharat who kills innocent Muslims, its actually the so called jihadis who have killed more Muslims than anyone else in this world. Do you have anything to say about them? The rest of your post doesn't make any sense so I really don't have anything to talk about.

Don't bother explaining to those who cannot understand.. Waste of time for those who've not learnt their lesson

 

[Tshering22]

An excellent reply to a cheap ill intended post. Iranians have every right to resent America. The country had democracy until the CIA overthrew Mossadak for their oil. And it is a well documented fact that Americans have been meddling with the Iranian people for ages now. And don't forget when the Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane "mistakenly".

Iran should be allowed to get nukes on the same basis as Israel: to defend itself. Iran is surrounded by enemies on all side and I think it is vital that Iran possess nukes as at least one country has threatened to strike it unilaterally. But again, I would deeply hope that the nukes don't go to the wrong hands.

I think you really hate Iran, dude. For all the ill-advise that you're giving Iranians here, they need quite the opposite. Iran is not surrounded by enemies; it is the clerics in Tehran that are paranoid and make more enemies in the process. Take a look at how many Iranians are in US and Europe. All of them are educated, aware, liberal, proud of Iranian culture and want to become a part of this world itself rather than creating empires on clouds. They want their Iran to be modern, progressive, developed, tolerant and prospering. Iran is infact the only country in Southern Asia belt that has NO enemies naturally. It is gifted with both agriculture as well as oil. That's like having the cake and eating it too. How many countries have both?

Israel has done nothing to Iran until the clerics went ballistic threatening Israel's destruction over and over. In fact, Iranians and Israelis get along quite well in general when not in their countries. Iran has that advantage that I'd daresay only Turkey has, and if they use it sensibly they can become another Turkey and another leading country rather than the current isolated nation. All the inconvenience that Iran is facing is simply due to its regime's narrow-mindedness and obsession with making enemies.

We too were on US' Enemy list at one time. But over time, we changed to give and take and maintain a good balance with US. Balance is important for a pragmatic, healthy political relationship with everyone. We have neither sidelined the Arabs and yet we are friends with Israel. We're friends with US but still retain our age old friendship with Russia. We've got past issues with some countries too. But international politics is not like that. It is not always about what was but rather what can be.

Tehran's regime needs to open themselves up and learn to balance. They're not rising against any tyrant or becoming any hero; but simply isolating themselves. The clerical regime is so insecure that it constantly needs enemies for its own existence. Common Iranians must realize this.

Otherwise, Iranians are very smart, intelligent and gentle people from what I know.

 

[saleen_s7]

I think you really hate Iran, dude. For all the ill-advise that you're giving Iranians here, they need quite the opposite. Iran is not surrounded by enemies; it is the clerics in Tehran that are paranoid and make more enemies in the process. Take a look at how many Iranians are in US and Europe. All of them are educated, aware, liberal, proud of Iranian culture and want to become a part of this world itself rather than creating empires on clouds. They want their Iran to be modern, progressive, developed, tolerant and prospering. Iran is infact the only country in Southern Asia belt that has NO enemies naturally. It is gifted with both agriculture as well as oil. That's like having the cake and eating it too. How many countries have both?

Israel has done nothing to Iran until the clerics went ballistic threatening Israel's destruction over and over. In fact, Iranians and Israelis get along quite well in general when not in their countries. Iran has that advantage that I'd daresay only Turkey has, and if they use it sensibly they can become another Turkey and another leading country rather than the current isolated nation. All the inconvenience that Iran is facing is simply due to its regime's narrow-mindedness and obsession with making enemies.

We too were on US' Enemy list at one time. But over time, we changed to give and take and maintain a good balance with US. Balance is important for a pragmatic, healthy political relationship with everyone. We have neither sidelined the Arabs and yet we are friends with Israel. We're friends with US but still retain our age old friendship with Russia. We've got past issues with some countries too. But international politics is not like that. It is not always about what was but rather what can be.

Tehran's regime needs to open themselves up and learn to balance. They're not rising against any tyrant or becoming any hero; but simply isolating themselves. The clerical regime is so insecure that it constantly needs enemies for its own existence. Common Iranians must realize this.

Otherwise, Iranians are very smart, intelligent and gentle people from what I know.

I admire your nations success in diplomacy, and with all due respect, Iran at the moment is doing much better than India in almost every field and I really don't mean to offend here. India has a diverse group of people, which is why its easier to have diplomatic relations with many countries. Like the original poster said, the UN cannot take away rights from the Iranians under any clause. Iran is the only country in the world which is outright protesting against an illegal state supported by the biggest superpower in the world, this requires moral obligations, something all of our countries are lacking at the moment. I would hope the clerics get less radical in the near future, but again last time I checked they are much better than the other countries.
Now if you have a simple look through Iran's history with America, you would easily understand why Iranian people are so anti-america. And btw, last time I checked, there are jews in Iran who live quite a comfortable life. I think the media is just trying portray this as a religious war, but in reality, it is about an illegal nation.
Iran should have nuclear because nuclear power gives a country more say and empowers the people within the country, given the fact that it does not go into the wrong hands. Now America already overthrew a govt in Iran once, and Iran must do everything to make sure that foreign powers cannot repeat such atrocities in the near future. And we all know the west does not like meddling with countries with nuclear.