Iran claims to be building region’s largest warship

[ashok321]

Iran claims to be building region’s largest warship

The Islamic Republic of Iran Navy (IRIN) unveiled a large model of a training ship called Khalij Fars (Persian Gulf) on 29 November, saying it will be the largest warship in west Asia.

The Iranian media reported that the vessel will be 135 m long and 16 m wide, have a displacement of 6,500 tonnes, a maximum speed of 25 kts, a range of 8,000 n miles (14,816 km), and be able to train 230 students at a time.

The model showed it armed with four anti-ship missiles and fitted with a helicopter deck.

The Tasnim news agency reported that the vessel has been under construction since 2012.

The model was one of several achievements that were announced on Navy Day. Others included an unmanned maritime vehicle called the Damavand , indigenously produced fuel for torpedoes, and a digital torpedo guidance system. A poster seen in Iranian TV coverage indicated that a prototype of the Damavand has been tested at sea.

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[-SINAN-]

it will be the largest warship in west Asia.

The Iranian media reported that the vessel will be 135 m long and 16 m wide, have a displacement of 6,500 tonnes, a maximum speed of 25 kts, a range of 8,000 n miles (14,816 km), and be able to train 230 students at a time.

TCG ANADOLU (Currently being build)

Length; 232 Meters
Beam: 32 Meters
Full Displacement: 28,000 tonnes
Max Speed: 21 kts
Range: 9000 nmi

Since we are also in West Asia, i wanted to share.

 

[AmirPatriot]

TCG ANADOLU (Currently being build)

Length; 232 Meters
Beam: 32 Meters
Full Displacement: 28,000 tonnes
Max Speed: 21 kts
Range: 9000 nmi

Since we are also in West Asia, i wanted to share.

Mistranslation. Khanzadi, the commander of the navy, said Khalije Fars will be the largest training warship of West Asia.

I don't know why Iran needs a training warship... after all, we operate the 33,000 ton Kharg replenishment ship, it's not like we don't know how to operate large warships... but I digress.

 

[Hack-Hook]

TCG ANADOLU (Currently being build)

Length; 232 Meters
Beam: 32 Meters
Full Displacement: 28,000 tonnes
Max Speed: 21 kts
Range: 9000 nmi

Since we are also in West Asia, i wanted to share.

Come on that's a carrier . they are in a different category of their own.

 

[TruthHurtz]

training warship? u barely have any "warships" to speak of...

get ur priorities straight lmao

 

[yavar]

 

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

To be fair, the Khalij Fars would be one of the largest training vessels in the world today. Normally, such vessels aren't anywhere near this large. Most training vessels today are, believe it or not, vessels with sails!

The closest equivalent I've been able to find in my research is the JDS Kashima serving with the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force.

IMO, the "KF" is hardly JUST a training vessel. I suspect it's real purpose is as a proof of concept for the hull design. Should the KF prove to be a sound, problem-free design, the construction of a 100% combat vessel using the same hull (aka the warship CGI we've seen) will be green-lit. This vessel is design to prove Iran can not only DESIGN a large surface combatant, but that it can BUILD it as well.

If completed, the KF would certainly be the largest military vessel built in the Persian Gulf and also the largest in service with a Persian Gulf nation, though NOT the best armed/most capable.

 

[AmirPatriot]

ALCON,

To be fair, the Khalij Fars would be one of the largest training vessels in the world today. Normally, such vessels aren't anywhere near this large. Most training vessels today are, believe it or not, vessels with sails!

The closest equivalent I've been able to find in my research is the JDS Kashima serving with the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force.

IMO, the "KF" is hardly JUST a training vessel. I suspect it's real purpose is as a proof of concept for the hull design. Should the KF prove to be a sound, problem-free design, the construction of a 100% combat vessel using the same hull (aka the warship CGI we've seen) will be green-lit. This vessel is design to prove Iran can not only DESIGN a large surface combatant, but that it can BUILD it as well.

If completed, the KF would certainly be the largest military vessel built in the Persian Gulf and also the largest in service with a Persian Gulf nation, though NOT the best armed/most capable.

But why spend so much capital on purely a hull proof of concept? It's not suitable for a combat role with that armament. Wouldn't it be more useful as an ASW ship, or a logistics ship? That way at least it would be militarily useful when built.

 

[Sina-1]

But why spend so much capital on purely a hull proof of concept? It's not suitable for a combat role with that armament. Wouldn't it be more useful as an ASW ship, or a logistics ship? That way at least it would be militarily useful when built.

I think it makes sense to build a training ship if the training is multi purpose, hence not only training sailors. Training could be for the complete life cycle from design to production to operation to maintenance, i.e. they need to gather experience on all these aspects before being able to actually produce and operate something which fulfills all their requirements.

 

[eagle2007]

AmirPatriot,

Why spend the money? Well, if the largest surface combatant you've built displaced just 1500 tons and you're trying to build something 4+ that size, it makes good sense to "test it out" first.

A classic example is the Romanian Navy. During the 1970s, they designed and built the Telal I/II class light frigates, which were reasonably good designs. Then they wanted to be build something more ambitious, a destroyer.

The result was the Marasesti-class. While looking quite impressive (144 meters, nearly 6000 ton displacement), it became apparent fairly early that there were problems with the design. The superstructure made the vessel dangerously top-heavy and the vessel required many years or reconstruction to try and fix (which didn't entirely work). Of its first 5-6 years of service, the Marasesti spent 4 of them in port being "fixed". This also corresponded with the end of the Cold War and dictatorship in Romania.

Now, while the KF planned armament isn't very impressive, it's still better than any training ship in the world today and in a time of war, she could still be of some use (especially if those armament on mounted in a modular sort of way, easier to swap out). The Iraqi attempted something similar with the Yugoslav-built light frigate they imported in the 1980s as a training ship. They fully planned to arm it up in a time of conflict if needed but never got the chance.

In a time of war, you could feasibly mount a few Sayyad-2/3 launchers on the large open deck spaces of the KF as a temporary boost in defense. Not a good permanent fix (land-based missiles usually make for bad naval SAMs due to dealing with salt water corrosion, something they were never designed for), but a possibly application in times of war.

You could try to test the future destroyer hull design on a logistics/support vessel but if it's meant to be a destroyer someday, you are designing a high-speed hull which is not something typical of most logistics/supply vessels today. Such vessels are also going to be a wider-hull design as well, typically.

 

[raptor22]

In a time of war, you could feasibly mount a few Sayyad-2/3 launchers on the large open deck spaces of the KF as a temporary boost in defense. Not a good permanent fix (land-based missiles usually make for bad naval SAMs due to dealing with salt water corrosion, something they were never designed for), but a possibly application in times of war.

this what Egypt done by its Avengers as air defence:

 

[AmirPatriot]

You could try to test the future destroyer hull design on a logistics/support vessel but if it's meant to be a destroyer someday, you are designing a high-speed hull which is not something typical of most logistics/supply vessels today. Such vessels are also going to be a wider-hull design as well, typically.

Ah, that's what I was thinking initially, that this could be turned into a logistics vessel. But obviously a compromise would be made.

The thing is, it is such a large vessel and it only has 4 ASCMs. Surely even though it is a training ship, adding some more missiles isn't such a difficult job. I'd argue even the Mowj class need an upgrade to that sort of armament, let alone a 6500 ton ship.