Iran, China at odds in disputed islands row following Xi visit to Saudi Arabia

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[ZY-CN-CA]

These islands were in Iranian hands since parthian times at least. They were in physical Iranian hands before uae existed

Nobody has ever taken the uae seriously.

And now china announcing that there is a dispute and they support it being decided in kangaroo un institutions dominated by the west?

China is welcome to trade or do whatever it wants woth anybody. China even sold missiles to saudi arabia. Which are the only saudi means of hitting Iran, and were sold knowing they would only be used against Iran

Iran never complained because china can trade with whoever it wants

But china has no right to make any statements questioning Iranian territorial integrity. It is an absolute red line for Iran

Chinese media did not report this.

So why does China make this statement? China's diplomacy has always been non-interference in other countries' internal affairs. I am very surprised to see this news here.

China and Iran should continue to support each other on issues concerning the core interests of the two sides, Chinese President Xi Jinping said to his Iranian counterpart Ebrahim Raisi in a phone conversation on Friday afternoon.
China views its relationship with Iran from a strategic standpoint and is willing to work alongside the Middle East country in pushing for new progress in the bilateral comprehensive strategic partnership, Xi said.-------china news.

 

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Yuan Oil effects already in place
December 13, 2022
Source : oilprice.com

 

[S10]

china must not speak about it like us we dont speak about taiwan or rohigina moslems think we are going to say china must speak about taiwan with usa and taiwa gavernment

Recognizing a dispute between 2 countries is perfectly normal. China didn't say the island belong to UAE. If you felt "betrayed" and "insulted" by that, unfortunately you're in for a rough ride. Even US did not explicitly say whether Taiwan belong to "People's Republic of China or "Republic of China".

 

[Han-Tang]

We generally won't sit ideal and let others to kick us then forgive them ...

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/47...ize-16-MOUs-under-25-year-agreement-framework

obviously, your government does not agree with you.

 

[OldTwilight]

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/47...ize-16-MOUs-under-25-year-agreement-framework

obviously, your government does not agree with you.

ISI i

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/47...ize-16-MOUs-under-25-year-agreement-framework

obviously, your government does not agree with you.

ISI doesn't have any options right now ... But I foresee steady growth of resentment towards cummonist party in Iran ...

This act just breached last line of ISI defence in this matter

 

[nahtanbob]

Iran is relatively close to China and almost free from western influence
Still chinese went to Arabs.
I wonder why?

Arabs have more oil than Iran

 

[925boy]

Like I said, this argument is between you and UAE. China only acknowledges there is a disagreement. No side was chosen. You cannot expect China to completely take your narrative and run with it.

china is looking for business- its a sucker for business access and opportunity, so its playing Iran vs Arabs, by "supporting" both sides at the same time -its working...for now.

 

[Dexon]

China Sends Official Xi Sidelined on Trip to Protest-Hit Iran

China sent an official who was recently removed from the top echelons of power to meet Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, a sign Beijing is keeping its distance from the Middle Eastern nation as it deals with widespread unrest.

www.bloomberg.com

Is this true?

 

[OldTwilight]

China Sends Official Xi Sidelined on Trip to Protest-Hit Iran

China sent an official who was recently removed from the top echelons of power to meet Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, a sign Beijing is keeping its distance from the Middle Eastern nation as it deals with widespread unrest.

www.bloomberg.com

Is this true?

yes ...
Look like ISI is on her last leg , all of her claims are proved wrong

 

[S10]

China Sends Official Xi Sidelined on Trip to Protest-Hit Iran

China sent an official who was recently removed from the top echelons of power to meet Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, a sign Beijing is keeping its distance from the Middle Eastern nation as it deals with widespread unrest.

www.bloomberg.com

Is this true?

True as in Hu Chunhua is not in the top echelon of power? Yes he's not in the politburo, but he's still a vice premier of China so roughly equivalent to foreign minister in terms of importance.

 

[Sineva]

Iran’s foreign ministry on December 10 took the rare move of summoning China’s ambassador to Tehran after Beijing issued a joint statement with Arab states that controversially dealt with the matter of three long-disputed islands in the Strait of Hormuz.


Though there was clear anger in Tehran at the move, Iran’s leadership was obviously taking pains not to upset China with its response to the statement—instead of announcing that it was “summoning” the Chinese envoy, the Iranian foreign ministry said the ambassador “had a visit” with a foreign ministry official, during which Tehran’s “strong dissatisfaction” was conveyed.


The controversy blew up as Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Iran’s arch-rival Saudi Arabia on December 9. He also met leaders of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries. Tehran was observing the visit like a hawk as Iran and Saudi Arabia are competitors when it comes to the provision of huge volumes of crude oil to Beijing.


The bone of contention unearthed by the Chinese-Arab joint statement is the ownership of the islands of Greater Tunb, Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa, governed by Iran since 1971 but claimed by the United Arab Emirates (UAE). It was in 1971 that the then-shah of Iran dispatched the Iranian royal navy to the three islands after the British withdrew their armed forces from territories that are today the UAE. Iran has ever since rejected statements from Emirati leaders that the islands belong to the UAE. The inhabitants of the islands are all Persian-speaking Arabs who use the Bandari dialect of Persian, which is infused with Arabic words and syntax.


Xi and the GCC leaders signed a statement that urged “bilateral negotiations in accordance with the rules of international law, and to resolve this issue [over the sovereignty of the islands] in accordance with international legitimacy”. In signing the statement, China crossed a red line in Iran’s eyes as Tehran’s standpoint remains that it will not countenance any talks on the islands.


Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian asserted in a tweet that the islands were “inseparable parts of Iran’s pure soil”. But he ran into social media criticism for not naming China in his observations and for only writing in Farsi, whereas in the past he has tweeted both in Farsi and in Chinese in support of China’s territorial integrity.


China and Iran last year signed a 25-year cooperation agreement last year, seen as a roadmap to potentially massive investments worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Progress on realising any of the investments, however, is slow.


They issued a joint statement, which contained several clauses that directly dealt with Iranian affairs, its nuclear programme, and its regional activities.


The statement signed by Xi and his GCC counterparts also referred to ensuring the peaceful and civilian nature of the Iranian nuclear programme and called on Tehran to fully cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). On December 11, Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat remarked that “all bets are off” if Iran “gets an operational nuclear weapon”.


China and the GCC member states also in the statement referred to the need for dialogue on Iran’s “destabilising regional activities” and “support for terrorist and sectarian groups and illegal armed organisations”.


Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Nasser Kanani registered “surprise” at how the statement included the Iran-related clauses.


Xi’s visit was partly arranged for the first China-Arab States Summit and the China-GCC Summit.


During his stay in Saudi Arabia, Xi also held bilateral meetings with nearly 20 Arab leaders.


As anger grew in Iran over the outcome of Xi’s visit, Iranian newspapers hit out at China. Ham-Mihan headlined an article, “China’s Turnaround on Iran”.


The daily Aftab was no less scathing about the Chinese. It published images of protesters in China, asking "Did the Chinese government hear the voice of the protesters?"


Reformist Etemad on December 11 asked, “What is China’s plan for the Middle East?”


Later on December 11, Iran’s National Security Committee said “China's interference in Iran's internal affairs conflicts with good international cooperation.”


China’s government-controlled Global Times on December 12 declared that Xi’s visit to Saudi Arabia opened a new chapter of relations between the Arabs and the Chinese.


Chinese media were generally very upbeat about the new relations between the GCC and Beijing, predicting the Arabs and Chinese would boost their cooperation in multiple fields over the next few months and years.

You know its funny just how quickly the chinese started back peddling on this one.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1601672577730379776

Even funnier is that the joint statement that the saudis and chinese agreed on has "mysteriously" vanished down the ccp "memory hole"......

This is what you would`ve found originally......

https://www.mfa.gov.cn/zyxw/202212/t20221210_10988401.shtmlPoint

This is what you`ll find now however......

Almost as tho it had never even existed in the first place......

So we should give the chinese a little bit of credit on this as it does appear that they realised very quickly that they had really fvcked up,and they did then take steps to try and fix things,first they made it very clear that they recognized irans territorial integrity,and secondly they quickly got rid of the offending joint statement.

 

[etylo]

Thats your own problem with hate and unreasonableness of others.

By the way, do you Turk have problem with above statement, you are laughing at my comments without any good sense I think, @_Nabil_.

 

[khansaheeb]

Iran is relatively close to China and almost free from western influence
Still chinese went to Arabs.
I wonder why?

It's just diplomacy, keeping all sides happy. Iran, KSA , China will continue business normally.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China questioned Irans territorial integrity. Not even the US has ever taken such a position

Not even the zionists have ever dared question Iranian territorial integrity

This was a big shock in Iran. And a huuge embarrassment for the government

Who says China never throws countries under the bus?