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Iran-backed militias recruiting Pakistanis, Afghans to fight in Syria

As far as I know Iran supplied us with 6 million Kurdish animals, nothing to thank them for

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@SALMAN F

LOL. Living up to your avatar, bro. Most Kurds would be angry if you called them Iranians.:cray: Not all Kurds are bad people. Don't forget the many Arab-Kurdish intermarriages and the fact that some Kurdish tribes are originally of Arab origin but Kurdified and assimilated throughout the ages. Kurd basically meant nomad in Arabic.

Fun aside, nationalists should rule Syria and prevent it from turning into a protectorate of foreigners but I fear it is too late thanks to the stupidity and greed of the Al-Assad regime. That regime has been useless by large. One betrayal after the other. We know their role and conspiracies against Iraq, a fellow neighbor, Arab country and also ruled by Ba'athi's back then. Their negative role in Lebanon as well. Now they have destroyed their own country. Retarded behavior.

Radicals, regardless of sect, should be dealt with and kept tight by a sharp lash while anti-Syrians should be dealt with.

Thanks to this stupidity certain regional players will believe that every Arab country is up for grabs as well. Weak/struggling Arab countries should not be allowed as they harm the entire stability of the Arab world.

The useless leaders should soon wake up and do what they are preaching about occasionally (creating the Joint Arab military force for instance as publicly agreed to 2-3 years ago- where are we in this process - nobody knows, lol) and turning the Arab League into some kind of NATO/EU like group. At least those that would want to be a part of this (I suspect most and those with disagreements can probably sort it out if mutually beneficial which it would be if done correctly).

This way nobody other than the US and China would mess with us.


Thanks to this chaos in Syria we had had instability in Iraq, growing instability in Lebanon and to a smaller degree Jordan as well as Kurdish attempts at undermining Syria and Iraq. Can't do as much against non-war torn countries like Turkey or Iran, luckily for them but when Iraq and Syria were stable this was neither the case but easier to use the retarded rhetoric as our Iranian friend did in this thread. Fake rhetoric btw.
 
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A Zionist like you @Solomon2 , cannot understand that it's a great honor for both Shia and Sunni Muslims to defend the shrine of prophets granddaughter. You are blind to that fact, so you think that those volunteers are recruited. No idiot! They have chosen to fight against your ISIS proxies.
Why defend a shrine of dead person also how you ask that person for protection and at the same time you go and defend his/her grave why they can't protect their shrines themselves?!

Zionist pig in action. Yes there are Pakistanis in those brigades who are actively fighting the ISIS and Al Qaeda so further generations can stay safe. I know it hurts since it's very difficult for Mossad to train ISIS pigs who are easily killed by these volunteers.
They are being used in areas that have no Shias or shrines they are just dying for Assad
 
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Oppressed Sunni? Lol

I had tens of Sunni friends in university, from Kurds and Bloch folks. What do you know about Iran? Moreover our Sistan is a Shia majority and Balochistan is a Sunni majority city. One of my best friends of Balochis was named abu Bakr, both Omar and Abu Bakr are most popular names after Muhammad in Balochistan. Sunni have the almost superior hand in Chabahar port of Balochistan too. But he wasn't talking about oppressed Sunni. You need to visit Iran dude, come Madhhad, Sunnis have their own mosque in that city.

You have mistaken Iran with sectarian Saudi
A Not oppressed Iranian sunni here. Please STFU
Oppressed Sunnis? Oh come on stop coming up with that crap theory! I'd love if we recruit Iranians against TTP in Waziristan! <3
Yes there is oppression and discrimination against Sunnis and disrespect for their holy ant historical figures
 
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Have you paid Iran-Iraq war compensate?
It's compensation is a leader for Iraq from Nujaba party, in the same way that Hezbollah guaranteed safety of Lebanon against Saudi Israeli funded terror groups, they can save Iraq from sedition I mean saving both Shia and Sunni from American designed plots. Otherwise, with no complement, just like Syria and other Arab countries, they would suffer from own mistakes. Our friend camel guy looks for Saudi friends, it's only way is insulting Iran and Iranian.

Yes there is oppression and discrimination against Sunnis and disrespect for their holy ant historical figures
What is, please tell us more, apparently you know Shias more than me
 
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Why defend a shrine of dead person also how you ask that person for protection and at the same time you go and defend his/her grave why they can't protect their shrines themselves?!


They are being used in areas that have no Shias or shrines they are just dying for Assad
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He is talking just like wahabis, is there a newly designed wahabi Shia designed by Saudi Takfirists?

He is an atheist.
More like wahabis
 
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He thinks that they are dead, you may be right. He hasn't seen Quran in which says that martyrs are not dead but alive in heaven.
He is an extremist atheist.

Talking to Saif is even better than talking to salman.
 
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He is an extremist atheist.

Talking to Saif is even better than talking to salman.
He was insulting Sunni sanctity, horrifying, may Allah save Muslims from extremism, that's why our friends are brothers in arms. Two extremists from different religions lol
 
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Apparently my factual comments hurt you deeply as you have now taken a u-turn from "Arabs and Iranians are brothers and need to cooperate" to writing nonsense comments (fantasy) of 80 million Iranians toying with 500 million Arabs. There is no toying anywhere other than supporting Hezbollah (Arabs last time I checked, not Iranians) in tiny Southern Lebanon (funded by local Arabs to begin with that sought help from the Iranian regime) and supporting the Al-Assad regime while Russia calls all the shots nowadays. 99% of all the fighting is done by local Arabs too in Syria.

It's not the Arab world that is sanctioned and has stagnated for the past 40 years on most fronts. Not the Arab world that has an economy smaller than UAE and Qatar put together.
Well there is a view they the one in Cairo belong to
زینب بنت ‏یحیی المتوج بن الحسن الانور بن زید بن حسن بن علی بن ابی طالب
And also they claim some of the text that made such claims can't be verified and some wrong.

About the shrines also there is some claims that say she was buried in medina (well I'm not aware of any shrine of her there but well you really can't be certain we knew she returned to media but we are not certain that if she left median again. So some claim she have been buried in بقیع).

To be honest some of the historian say the shrine in Damascus belong to ام کلثوم daughter of Imam Ali (علیه السلام) but nobody is sure as some also say Abde-Allah aljaefar in one travel to Syria took her with him and in that travel she died .

About Damascus well its not new and Shia from old time would have gone there. Also the when in your heart something is true its true.
 
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Please, bro, who are you kidding? Don't you know that most of those Afghans, your compatriots etc. are people trying to survive day to day in Iran (living as illegal refugees without any rights), or recruited by local Mullah fanboys with intelligence ties to the Iranian regime later to be used as nothing more than mercenaries? As far as I am aware of mercenaries are not recognized as combatants in international law.

With due apologies brother, they're nothing but conjectures on your part. I also don't appreciate the fact that despite numerous clarification in my previous posts having the discussion with you explaining what's what in terms of different Liwas...you still wrote Don't you know that most of those Afghans, your compatriots etc. are people trying to survive day to day in Iran (living as illegal refugees without any rights) trying to wrap them up in a single packing whilst that's clearly not the case. I have written in very plain English explaining to you the difference between Pakistani volunteers from PARACHINAR and their involvement vs. the Liwa Fatemiyoun, an official Iranian paramilitary force.

I cannot provide proof because I cannot post bloody videos but I already posted a video of a captured Hazara mercenary and my guess is that he was not guarding that single shrine 24/7, lol.

Once again, you're acting the same way as most of the non-Arabs act here on this forum when it comes to Arab affairs because of incomplete information. Ethnic Hazaras engaged in Syria are Afghans, i.e. Liwa Fatemiyoun which has a State Mandate. It's fallen are buried with proper honour and protocol in Iran, and you will find them all over Syria because their scope of operations is in alignment with the Iranian and Assad regime defence treaty. I have amply stated the facts about Liwa Zainabiyoun in my most recent posts.

So a shrine, most likely a fake one, as the original is most likely based in Cairo, Egypt as per most scholars, is more important than 100's of destroyed mosques in Syria, 10.000's of (the Al-Assad regime has killed most Syrian civilians by far as per most statistics) civilian Syrians, standing with the truth, standing with something that righteous (actual Ahl al-Bayt) would be doing etc. Makes no sense.

It might be fake as per you and no problem. Anyone who believes it's fake has the right not to visit it or defend it. No issue whatsoever. However, and again, as I have stated in my previous posts that it is imperative for any Shia who believes the Shrine to be valid to go and defend it and the pilgrims visiting their due to CONCRETE AND REAL attacks which have taken place against the Shrine. Shias will not factor in the belief or disbelief of Sunnis when it comes to their Shrine(s). Pakistani Shia volunteer also went to Iraq and were ready to shed their blood for the protection of Karbala and Najaf when ISIS was at their doorstep. Salafi militias CAN NOT be trusted with the lives and properties of ANY MINORITY.

Nobody is complaining (from the regimes). It is a deliberate move not to involve itself too much. I am talking from a personal perspective here. I would have helped the Syrian people initially (of the conflict) and made a transition or given power to another Al-Assad family member (if the Al-Assad family insisted to stay in power, doubtful if the people would ever accept them, they never did actually as they came to power by force under the disguise of democracy) and this way prevented this civil war from lasting 7 years as well as preventing Syria from turning into a Russian, Turkish, Kurdish, US etc. protectorate. Basically Syria is no longer Syria thanks to the greed of the Al-Assad regime. Yes or no?

It's a noble and humanitarian gesture on your individual part. Syria's still there though, going through a brutal civil war but still there. Syria is more than Al-Assad, Jabhat un Nusra, Russia etc.


Syrian Sunni Arabs are not supporting Turkey or anti-GCC or anti-Arab. They are doing what is best for them at the given moment in time depending where in Syria. In Southern Syria, KSA and Jordan are involved with humanitarian aid and arming locals (lightly). Just like KSA relief has reached Ghouta. KSA hosts in total 2.5 million Syrians. They are not treated as refugees but as "Arab brothers in distress". Just like KSA is hosting 1 million Yemeni refugees. Just like KSA hosted almost 200.000 Iraqi Shia Arabs from the South that escaped across the border during the uprising in the South against Saddam Hussein in the early 1990's. A certain anti-KSA obsessed individual Nouri Al-Maliki was part of this group of people. 12 years later he repaid by damaging ties and destroying a lot for no real reason. Shocking behavior but as he was/is a Iran drone (Dawa'h party radical that also fought against his country on behalf of the Mullah's).

You should have known long ago (being familiar with KSA) that KSA does not operate using proxies like Iran. We interact with states. If KSA wanted (in theory) it would created some kind of Hezbollah somewhere in Ninawah or Anbar or anywhere in the Arab world with a bit of work as the truth is that KSA is way more influential in the Muslim world than Iran. However that has never been done and rightly so. Same story in Yemen.

Brother I'll disagree with you on this. Despite the Saudis helping out Syrians monetarily, what really matters, shines and stands are concrete effort like that of Turkey. When you're in a group and you have a fight, you remember the friends who fought beside you even if they get their a$$ handed to them. You're merely grateful for the friends who take you to the hospital and comfort you...but NOTHING substitute the guy who stood with you, dished out punches and took some punches with you. That bond is something else. Say what you will about Turkey, Iran, and/or Russia, they are on the ground facing the same bullets and shedding RED, no matter the quantity because it's a drop more any GCC or Pakistani citizen.

Nouri al Maliki is history, his blind obedience led to his downfall and now he's no more.

Saudi Arabia should either get involved in a meaningful way, being the leader of the Sunni Muslim world, or brother it should let nature take it's course and let the powers decide what's what.
 
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Sure, whatever floats your boat. Iranian influence in tiny Southern Lebanon and a few militias in Iraq = Iran controls all 20 Arab countries and 500 million Arabs while having zero influence in 90% of all Arab countries. Nice joke.:lol:

Meanwhile this is the reality of Iran for the past 1400 years:



Iran has no history. It's entire pre-Islamic culture is a copy of Semitic civilizations and cultures originally from Arabia. For the past 1400 year they have been more Arab than Iranian. Almost completely Arabized.

Most scientists and famous Muslim figures were Arabs. That's a well-known fact.

Sure, Iranian camels and donkeys are such great that they are 100 times more Arabized than any Arab is Persinized.:lol:

Assyrians are just one Semitic people and their history is dwarfed by other Semitic peoples and besides that Assyrians and Arabs are closely related people (similar to Persians and stateless Kurds) and have the same origin.

LOL. Arab grammar was invented 1000 year prior to Islam. Do you know what a systematic system is or standardization? Sure, a supposed Persian who was taught by his Arab teachers and who was fully Arabized (as per his name) and who was born in Arab lands. He was probably as Persian as Khamenei is Arab today.
Whatever you like this claim even won't worth answering.
 
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