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Iran and the U.S. Are Allies Against ISIS but Aren’t Ready to Admit It Yet

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Iran and the U.S. are allies against ISIS, but aren’t ready to admit it yet.

We are in an era of unacknowledged invasions. In military operations ranging from Russia’s incursion into eastern Ukraine to the activities of Iranian military advisers in Iraq, governments refuse to admit what they’re up to even when those engagements are widely reported in the international media.

As the U.S. begins carrying out its first airstrikes against ISIS under the new strategy announced by President Obama last week, we’ve seen the rise of another related phenomenon: the unacknowledged alliance.

Last week there were media reports that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had approved cooperation with the United States in the name of fighting ISIS. If those reports are true, the supreme leader doesn’t appear willing to acknowledge them publicly. Shortly after Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that the U.S. would be open to talks with Iran about the crisis in Iraq, Khamenei personally rebuffed the offer, telling the state news agency IRNA, “I saw no point in cooperating with a country whose hands are dirty and intentions murky." He went on to suggest that the U.S. was using the crisis as a "pretext to do in Iraq and Syria what it already does in Pakistan—bomb anywhere without authorization.”

The U.S. side has been sending some mixed signals. Last week Kerry had ruled out cooperation with Iran due to its “engagement in Syria and elsewhere.” Iran, after all, is a major backer of Bashar al-Assad’s government, which, in addition to its many other crimes, the U.S. accuses of facilitating the rise of ISIS. (Syria has since executed a rapid about-face and is now trying to sell itself internationally as an enthusiastic member of the anti-terror coalition.)

Iran was not among the more than 20 nations represented at a conference in Paris this week devoted to assisting the Iraqi government in its efforts against ISIS, a snub lamented by the Iraqi foreign minister.

Iran (and to a less clear extent Syria) is already a de facto ally of the U.S. and Europe in this mission. The efforts of Iran and the U.S. have been complementary, even if they weren’t coordinated. For instance, when Iraqi Shiite militiamen and Kurdish peshmerga fighters retook the northern Iraqi town of Amerli earlier this month, it was made possible by both Iranian military advisers and American airstrikes.

Washington and Tehran are on the same team in Iraq—things are a bit more complicated in Syria—but neither government seems ready to admit it yet. At a certain point, the military forces battling the same enemy in the field might start to wonder how long it will take the politicians giving them orders to get on the same page.
 
They are not the true allies, just like USA and USSR formed a temporary alliance against the Axis Powers at most.
 
When it comes for own interest iran is a good allies with america like in afghanistan and iraq:-). They would work wilt israel if the times come. And then ther is no problem...
 
common enemy so I guess that makes us allies
but are we helping one another out and working together???

i think the overall goal of this whole Arab Spring is to cause chaos.
1.Sunni-Shiite war (a war of ideologies and power)
2.Open corridor in Syria/Iraq for Israel Air Strikes against Iran enriching facilities.

we are nearing the end game leading to a bigger game
 
WASHINGTON: The Republican-controlled House voted grudgingly to give the administration authority to train and arm Syrian rebels on Wednesday as President Barack Obama emphasised anew that American forces “do not and will not have a combat mission” in the struggle against Islamic State militants in either Iraq or Syria. The 273-156 vote crossed party lines to an unusual degree in a Congress marked by near ceaseless partisanship. Top Republican and Democratic leaders backed Obama's plan seven weeks before midterm elections, while dozens of rank-and-file lawmakers in both parties opposed it. The provision was added to spending legislation that will ensure the federal government operates normally after the Sept. 30 end of the budget year. Final approval is expected in the Senate as early as Thursday. Even supporters of the military plan found little to trumpet. “This is the best of a long list of bad options,” said Rep Jim Moran. One Republican supporter noted the measure includes strict limits on Obama's authority. “Members on both sides of the aisle are very concerned that too much of Congress' war making power has gone to the president,” said Rep Tom Cole of Oklahoma. Obama's remarks and similar comments Wednesday by House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi seemed designed to reassure liberal lawmakers that the new military mission would be limited. In a statement following the vote, Obama said the House “took an important step forward as our nation unites to confront the threat posed” by the Islamic State group, showing bipartisan support for a “critical component” of his strategy against the extremists. Only a day earlier, Gen Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, drew widespread attention when he told Congress he might recommend the use of US ground combat forces if Obama's current strategy fails to stop the militants. Across the political aisle from the president and Pelosi, Speaker John Boehner and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California swung behind the plan. Yet many other Republicans expressed concerns that it would be insufficient to defeat militants who have overrun parts of Syria and Iraq and beheaded two American journalists. In all, 85 Democrats and 71 Republicans voted to deny Obama the authority he sought. The measure passed on the strength of 159 votes from Republicans and 114 from Democrats. Republican lawmakers took solace in the short-term nature of the legislation. It grants Obama authority only until Dec 11, giving Congress plenty of time to return to the issue in a postelection session set to begin in mid-November. While the military provision was given a separate vote in the House, to tack it onto the spending bill, it seemed unlikely there would be a yes-or-no vote in the Senate on Obama's new military strategy to train rebel forces in Saudi Arabia to be used in conjunction with potential US airstrikes. Instead, the Senate is likely to vote only once on the legislation that combines approval for arming and training rebels with the no-shutdown federal spending provisions. Officials put a $500 million price tag on Obama's request to train and equip rebels. The cost generated virtually no discussion among lawmakers, who focused instead on the possible consequences of a new military mission not long after America ended participation in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Testifying before a Senate Committee, Secretary of State John Kerry said the forces seeking to create an Islamic state ” must be defeated. Period. End of story. “ There was little, if any dissent on that, but debate aplenty about the best way to accomplish it. “We simply don't know if somewhere down the line it will turn our guns back against us,” said Rep. Loretta Sanchez giving voice to a fear that rebels seeking the removal of Syrian president Bashar Assad would eventually prove unreliable allies. Rep. Tom McClintock expressed a different concern. “Committing insufficient force in any conflict is self-defeating, and airstrikes alone cannot win a war,” he said. Dempsey's day-old remarks had staying power. US troops “will support Iraqi forces on the ground as they fight for their own country against these terrorists,” Obama told officers in Florida at U.S. Central Command, which oversees American military efforts in the Middle East. He added, “As your commander in chief, I will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in Iraq. “ Vice President Joe Biden said in Iowa that Gen. Dempsey's “conclusion is that it is not needed now.” Biden added: “We'll determine that based on how the effort goes. “ Pelosi said the House action “is not to be confused with any authorization to go further. ... I will not vote for combat troops to engage in war. “ In Baghdad, Iraq's new prime minister told The Associated Press in an interview that his government wants no part of a US ground combat mission. “Not only is it not necessary; we don't want them. We won't allow them,” Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said. The measure also renews the charter of the Export-Import Bank, which helps finance purchases of U.S. exports. That postpones until next June a battle between tea party forces opposing the bank and business-oriented Republicans who support it. The legislation also includes $88 million to combat the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa. The bill passed on a vote of 319-108.
 
Terrorist makers(americans) VS terrorists(ISIL), for americans it's just a tactical change, for Iran there is no difference between terrorist makers and terrorist, so americans have to take their wishes for alliance with iran to hell.

By the way biased article, Iran's supreme leader has clearly and publicly rejected american's request, he referred to their claim at figjting with terrorism as a big joke.
 
Terrorist makers(americans) VS terrorists(ISIL), for americans it's just a tactical change, for Iran there is no difference between terrorist makers and terrorist, so americans have to take their wishes for alliance with iran to hell.

By the way biased article, Iran's supreme leader has clearly and publicly rejected american's request, he referred to their claim at figjting with terrorism as a big joke.
that being said , any military or even political alliance with US regime will be vetoed by the parliament

we are not allies and we'll never be , due to the fundamental difference in ideology and approach .

common enemies (if thats even true and US regime is honest in fighting its own bastard child) wont make allies
 
that being said , any military or even political alliance with US regime will be vetoed by the parliament

we are not allies and we'll never be , due to the fundamental difference in ideology and approach .

common enemies (if thats even true and US regime is honest in fighting its own bastard child) wont make allies
You may become disappointed .
just believe me our foreign policies are not that simple.
 
that being said , any military or even political alliance with US regime will be vetoed by the parliament

we are not allies and we'll never be , due to the fundamental difference in ideology and approach .

common enemies (if thats even true and US regime is honest in fighting its own bastard child) wont make allies
there is no common enemy, our goal is destroying the whole terorism created by americans in the middle east including Al-nusra and ISIL, but american's goal is reinforcing the Al-nusra. By removing the ISIL they want to reunite all of terrorists in Al-nusra.just few days ago their parliament approved more help for Al-nusra.
 
there is no common enemy, our goal is destroying the whole terorism created by americans in the middle east including Al-nusra and ISIL, but american's goal is reinforcing the Al-nusra. By removing the ISIL they want to reunite all of terrorists in Al-nusra.just few days ago their parliament approved more help for Al-nusra.
lol
 
Iran is enemy of ISIS

U.S.A. is just using ISIS. Eexcuse to bomb Syrian infrastructure. Excuse supply more weapons to their "moderate" separatist and extremist. For them its just name for the latest "threat" they keep creating them self to destablize the ME.
 
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