Iran and India relation Banking oil gas culture economy

[El Sidd]

You can buy the oil instead, but wait, you even betrayed Iran on the gas pipeline project.
You prefer to buy the oil from Saudis so that they have enough money to bombard Yemeni children.

I just said we are under imposed war. Militarily and Economically.

The prices you want. We cannot afford it.

 

[Sineva]

I just said we are under imposed war. Militarily and Economically.

The prices you want. We cannot afford it.

Well my friend that is the down side of vassalage,unfortunately you have to put the political concerns of your american overlord ahead of pakistans economic needs.The problem here is not irans pricing of its gas,its the political and economic price pakistan must pay as a vassal state,ultimately even if iran gave the gas away for free pak still wouldnt be able to afford it,politically that is.
If you want to see what a real imposed war looks like then you need look no further than iran and the wests efforts to destroy it over the last nearly 40 years.By comparison pak has nukes and is a vassal of both china and to a declining degree the us.

 

[El Sidd]

Well my friend that is the down side of vassalage,unfortunately you have to put the political concerns of your american overlord ahead of pakistans economic needs.The problem here is not irans pricing of its gas,its the political and economic price pakistan must pay as a vassal state,ultimately even if iran gave the gas away for free pak still wouldnt be able to afford it,politically that is.
If you want to see what a real imposed war looks like then you need look no further than iran and the wests efforts to destroy it over the last nearly 40 years.By comparison pak has nukes and is a vassal of both china and to a declining degree the us.

By that definition is iran not a vassal state for the russians?

 

[TheImmortal]

By that definition is iran not a vassal state for the russians?

What an absurd statement.

When even Russian president says to US and Israel they don’t have ability to kick Iran out of Syria (Even though they want to), WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

Let’s be honest both Pakistan and India are vassal states for their respective powers (China, US)

India tried to act all tough in face of US sanctions then when crunch time came they bent over backwards for their masters. Whereas look at Turkey that stood fast and made a decision IN ITS OWN SELF INTEREST not the self interest of global powers.

The sad fact is the militaries of Pakistan and India only exist to fight each other and in the case of India...to possibly fight China as well (in order to serve US interests).

Compare that to US,Russia,NATO, China Who all loath Iran. They don’t need another global military power, even though Iran PREDATES ALL OF THEM.

If Russia and China wanted, they could transfer massive amounts of high military technology to Iran and give Iran the upper hand for good. But they choose not to? Why?

Because they agree with the balance of power that the US and NATO want to establish. They all want to keep Israel at a distinct advantage in the Middle East.

If Iran is ever conquered, the history books will talk about how the Russians and Chinese made the dumbest moves in their respective histories.

Without Iran, all attention will be to cause the collapse of Russia and china and finally achieve a UNIPOLAR world order led by the US Empire.

This is a goal that will exist for years if not decades till its accomplished.

 

[El Sidd]

What an absurd statement.

When even Russian president says to US and Israel they don’t have ability to kick Iran out of Syria (Even though they want to), WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

Let’s be honest both Pakistan and India are vassal states for their respective powers (China, US)

India tried to act all tough in face of US sanctions then when crunch time came they bent over backwards for their masters. Whereas look at Turkey that stood fast and made a decision IN ITS OWN SELF INTEREST not the self interest of global powers.

The sad fact is the militaries of Pakistan and India only exist to fight each other and in the case of India...to possibly fight China as well (in order to serve US interests).

Compare that to US,Russia,NATO, China Who all loath Iran. They don’t need another global military power, even though Iran PREDATES ALL OF THEM.

If Russia and China wanted, they could transfer massive amounts of high military technology to Iran and give Iran the upper hand for good. But they choose not to? Why?

Because they agree with the balance of power that the US and NATO want to establish. They all want to keep Israel at a distinct advantage in the Middle East.

If Iran is ever conquered, the history books will talk about how the Russians and Chinese made the dumbest moves in their respective histories.

Without Iran, all attention will be to cause the collapse of Russia and china and finally achieve a UNIPOLAR world order led by the US Empire.

This is a goal that will exist for years if not decades till its accomplished.

Thats some dellusional stuff right there

 

[Sineva]

By that definition is iran not a vassal state for the russians?

Not even remotely.Iran did not throw off the yoke of western vassalage just to put on the yoke of russian vassalage,indeed one of the founding mantras of the iri was "neither east nor west",iran took that sentiment very seriously and still does so even now.Iran is neither a vassal nor an ally of russia,at best they are sometime partners of mutual convenience as in syria,but thats about it really.
When it came to post soviet russias dealings with iran,both economic and political,the one single area where it proved itself reliable was in its near total complete unreliability[lol],sad but true.

 

[Turingsage]

Let’s be honest both Pakistan and India are vassal states for their respective powers (China, US)

India tried to act all tough in face of US sanctions then when crunch time came they bent over backwards for their masters. Whereas look at Turkey that stood fast and made a decision IN ITS OWN SELF INTEREST not the self interest of global powers.

You must be a moron as Iran itself denies any reduction in oil or gas imports. Recently there was a 12% cut but even with the cut we import five times more than Turkey . We are Irans second largest importer of oil after China while Turkey ranks number 4. There was a recent cut of 12% but that still leaves India as the second largest importer by a WIDE MARGIN.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Who-Was-Buying-Iranian-Oil-And-What-Happens-Next.html

These are May end figures from this year

Also we are not in the business of inviting sanctions. We will do what is in India's interest not some internet numpty.

"SUNDAY
August, 26 2018

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India Crude Imports From Iran Increase 48 Percent

1. Energy

Wednesday, August 01, 2018
India Crude Imports From Iran Increase 48 Percent





India’s Ministry of Petroleum has announced that crude imports from Iran witnessed a massive jump this June in comparison to last year, disproving reports published by global research agencies that India had heavily cut down crude purchases from Iran due to American sanctions.

Indian refineries imported 48% more Iranian crude in June this year as compared to imports from June 2017, according to government estimates, Sputnik reported.

"Indian refineries imported 1.9 million tons of crude oil from Iran in June 2017 and placed an order for 2.82 million tons in June 2018," India's Oil Minister Dharmendra Pradhan said in parliament on Monday.

However, the minister did not provide the amount of oil shipped from Iran during the current month. Presenting monthly details, Pradhan informed parliament that Iranian crude imports had witnessed an 11.8% increase in March, 16.5% in April and 16% in May in comparison to the corresponding months of last year.

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani visited New Delhi in February this year and during his trip India promised to increase crude oil imports from Iran from 205,000 barrels per day in 2017-18 to 396,000 barrels per day in 2018-19.

Earlier, citing data from industry and shipping sources, Reuters had reported that India's monthly oil imports from Iran had declined 16% in June this year as compared to May.

The Indian Oil Ministry has revealed that India and China have discussed the possibility of forming an "oil buyers' club" that can negotiate better terms with sellers.

"Meetings have been held between India and China, both at ministerial and company levels. During these meetings, both sides expressed interest in cooperating to deal with high crude oil and gas prices, including through increased communication between companies to work towards control and reduce spikes in prices," Minister Pradhan stated in parliament.

Despite several requests and threats from the US administration to cut trade ties with Iran, the Indian government has insisted that its trade decision would be guided by the country's interest and won't be compromised for any third country."
https://financialtribune.com/articles/energy/90889/india-crude-imports-from-iran-increase-48-percent


This is from August of this year from the horses mouth the largest English financial daily in IRAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DO NOT COMMENT OF THINGS YOU BARELY UNDERSTAND AND ARE TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON.

 

[TheImmortal]

You must be a moron as Iran itself denies any reduction in oil or gas imports. Recently there was a 12% cut but even with the cut we import five times more than Turkey . We are Irans second largest importer of oil after China while Turkey ranks number 4. There was a recent cut of 12% but that still leaves India as the second largest importer by a WIDE MARGIN.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Who-Was-Buying-Iranian-Oil-And-What-Happens-Next.html

These are May end figures from this year

Also we are not in the business of inviting sanctions. We will do what is in India's interest not some internet numpty.

"SUNDAY
August, 26 2018

India Crude Imports From Iran Increase 48 Percent

1. Energy

Wednesday, August 01, 2018
India Crude Imports From Iran Increase 48 Percent





India’s Ministry of Petroleum has announced that crude imports from Iran witnessed a massive jump this June in comparison to last year, disproving reports published by global research agencies that India had heavily cut down crude purchases from Iran due to American sanctions.

Indian refineries imported 48% more Iranian crude in June this year as compared to imports from June 2017, according to government estimates, Sputnik reported.

"Indian refineries imported 1.9 million tons of crude oil from Iran in June 2017 and placed an order for 2.82 million tons in June 2018," India's Oil Minister Dharmendra Pradhan said in parliament on Monday.

However, the minister did not provide the amount of oil shipped from Iran during the current month. Presenting monthly details, Pradhan informed parliament that Iranian crude imports had witnessed an 11.8% increase in March, 16.5% in April and 16% in May in comparison to the corresponding months of last year.

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani visited New Delhi in February this year and during his trip India promised to increase crude oil imports from Iran from 205,000 barrels per day in 2017-18 to 396,000 barrels per day in 2018-19.

Earlier, citing data from industry and shipping sources, Reuters had reported that India's monthly oil imports from Iran had declined 16% in June this year as compared to May.

The Indian Oil Ministry has revealed that India and China have discussed the possibility of forming an "oil buyers' club" that can negotiate better terms with sellers.

"Meetings have been held between India and China, both at ministerial and company levels. During these meetings, both sides expressed interest in cooperating to deal with high crude oil and gas prices, including through increased communication between companies to work towards control and reduce spikes in prices," Minister Pradhan stated in parliament.

Despite several requests and threats from the US administration to cut trade ties with Iran, the Indian government has insisted that its trade decision would be guided by the country's interest and won't be compromised for any third country."
https://financialtribune.com/articles/energy/90889/india-crude-imports-from-iran-increase-48-percent


This is from August of this year from the horses mouth the largest English financial daily in IRAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DO NOT COMMENT OF THINGS YOU BARELY UNDERSTAND AND ARE TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON.

You do realize, Turkey primary import is GAS From Iran right?

The point was not who imports the most oil.

Moron.

While Turkey said they wouldn’t do any cuts. India is begging the West for a waiver.

 

[Kaniska]

You do realize, Turkey primary import is GAS From Iran right?

The point was not who imports the most oil.

Moron.

While Turkey said they wouldn’t do any cuts. India is begging the West for a waiver.

Of course...we will beg for US waiver...Because, we have a huge trade relation with US and we can not put our economy in a fix just because Iran, Israel and US are fighting with each other for a subject which is none of our concern. Why should we will invite sanction to ourselves for a cause, which is not worthy for us...

Stop deluding yourself with your mornic ideas..We do not care what other nations does for Iran nor we expect Iran to put aside its interest and does something special for us..

 

[El Sidd]

Iran and India are grown up countries and for long time they been trying to get there tiles as heights as possible .
but there was one country in between Iran and India which tried it best to block it from happening with terrorism ex+++++++++.

but now it is been bypassed

And now chahbahar is a dead project

 

[yavar]

And now chahbahar is a dead project

of course if you say so,

but in reality

Afghanistan has shifted 80% of its cargo traffic from Pakistan’s Karachi seaport to Iran’s Bandar Abbas and Chabahar ports
http://www.atimes.com/article/afghan-port-shift-adds-pakistans-economic-woes/

 

[El Sidd]

of course if you say so,

but in reality

Afghanistan has shifted 80% of its cargo traffic from Pakistan’s Karachi seaport to Iran’s Bandar Abbas and Chabahar ports
http://www.atimes.com/article/afghan-port-shift-adds-pakistans-economic-woes/

Afghanistan is american Controlled.

Are you cooperating with the Satan again?

 

[Khanate]

of course if you say so,

but in reality

Afghanistan has shifted 80% of its cargo traffic from Pakistan’s Karachi seaport to Iran’s Bandar Abbas and Chabahar ports
http://www.atimes.com/article/afghan-port-shift-adds-pakistans-economic-woes/

Fake news.

In Afghanistan, exports account for around 20 percent of GDP. Main export partners are:

• Pakistan (48 percent of total exports)
• India (19 percent)
• Russia (9 percent)
• Others include: Iran, Iraq and Turkey.

Source
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Afghanistan's total exports are about USD 600 million. Of these, only 19% that are destined for India can potentially transit through Chahbahar. Not all do as Pakistan allow Afghan goods transit to India but not the other way around. Hence, India needs a white elephant like Chahbahar and NSTC.

The future prospects of these projects are not good. I have pointed out the reasons in the past. One of them was freight companies backing off because of insurance issues. Additionally, GCC has a large Afghan diaspora which Afghanistan can't tap via Chahbahar. Karachi and Gwadar are simply unavoidable.

 

[yavar]

 

[Tokhme khar]

Afghan gubment is backed by Iran. Iran will not allow the backward Taliban to come back into power.

Afghanistan is american Controlled.

Are you cooperating with the Satan again?